Bikepacking stove

MSR Dragonfly? Slightly heavier but has the ability to simmer, wide stable base, suitable for large pots and can burn different, readily available fuels. Peering in the fuel flask gives some idea of how much fuel is left too..

Gotta love STW – where else would someone recommend a 170 quid, near expedition stove to boil water for a family trip 🙂

I’m very fond of it, but rarely use it in the UK.

Same on both counts but I wouldn’t go and buy something new that does a very similar job.

Did have mine out for the first time since Canada tour last weekend. Wee sup pump cup oil and we were good to go and cooking with (white) gas at luibeg burn

I have one of these as I prefer the stability =

https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/p/vango-folding-stove-D3212143.html?colour=180&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CWO-UK-PERF-ONG-PLA-NB-GOOGLE-PMAX&gclid=CjwKCAjwzo2mBhAUEiwAf7wjkiGrgddhPElAO9NjNMfbAyvmyNwM-nl99a13YuC7yE2go_SgqCsgDhoCjI4QAvD_BwE

You can get ‘spiders’ to put on the bottom of your gas canister to make your pocket rocket more stable, but it is still potentially a very tall thing with a high centre of gravity to knock over

Gotta love STW – where else would someone recommend a 170 quid, near expedition stove to boil water for a family trip 🙂

Inevitable really. I’m only surprised nobody recommended one twice the price.

But if it helps the OP, and I said OP, so nobody run off and steal it out from under him, but theres a new dragonfly on ebay for £109

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314736415661?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338749377&toolid=20006&customid=GB_888_314736415661.144204179473~1867749304464-g_EAIaIQobChMI7s_D8c-xgAMVx9btCh1lMguLEAQYASABEgJlofD_BwE

Although he’s probably better with the Vango one.

If you haven’t got one already get a small fuel bottle for the Whisperlite. It then takes up about the same amount of space as a gas stove with the remote tube. Weight on a family bike trip won’t matter. It also makes the Whisperlite more useful for trips without the big bottle. Used to use my loads for this and it was great for cooking pasta for four on an overnight family bike tour.
For easy and clean low faff making drinks jetboul copies win for ease. All fits together well. I have a planetx copy and it works well.
For ultralight and gas use a tripod base for the canister and get BRS 3000 from ebay for £10 or 12 and warm the water in the mugs. It really is tiny and very light.
Ultra ultra light you already have covered with a meths stove.
Kelly Kettle works well but fire on campsites is sometimes a no no and it can be a pain to get going if wet. Great for the beach when there’s lots of time for stick hunts.
NB I like stoves and have more stoves than manage trips these days.
Edit: on MSRs I reckon the whisperlite wins. Mine is >20 years old and works well with no real maintenance, XGKs are mega reliable and burn anything but so noisy and really only on or off and I know a couple of people had bad experiences with Dragonflys reliability (although a good few years ago).

Weight on a family bike trip won’t matter

That easy to say when you don’t have to carry it all!

That easy to say when you don’t have to carry it all!

🤣 Yep family bike trip for us = slow and using old kiddy trailer for luggage or just staying in a YHA so basically cheating.

Edit: fulfil the new stove itch cheaply with a BRS 3000 😉
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394481561574?hash=item5bd8eeefe6:g:mOMAAOSw~llgQI4q&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwIlAYVAAxBqjtsz8dPFRqE4RJOezUCajkHyUp4888XK8EHNckjWfT8%2FGWjIydIcHUnnGOn%2FZQ8ItCWbHgq3n%2BcWzxpxUVb5XDHXGKK1kzOhIfwn0kqKUbkm0SVEDPs3hnTS9tFEfxwI6cOejvw6qUySNy3P9VCebbqbPZCSmg70wBxGFoTw0CHRt%2FfmJAqtt05ZidH4paZHHoo6MIDf2sHCX%2BDaD5D48npr1nyBsrA9TEnEGFhqEBFKrDOqmsUTO2Q%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7bxjeGzYg

Inevitable really. I’m only surprised nobody recommended one twice the price.

https://jetboil.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/shop/stoves-systems/genesis-basecamp-system

About £310ish

That easy to say when you don’t have to carry it all!

Tell me about it. We did a 2 day Isle of white tour in a premier Inn and the first day was only 50-60k but one of the hardest days cycling of my life. One chunky 18moth old on the back and towing a 6 year old 90% of the time on a follow me tandem, plus luggage on the front rack. I am going to have to weight until the elder will ride on her own more to do that again.

Another Brukit fan here, if you’re not cooking on it as such. But Pot Noodles are always a good standby 😉

I use a Jetboil for any trips requiring just hot water. The time difference between having to brew twice on a Jetboil over one big brew on another stove is minimal and more than made up for in other conveniences. As Tj says, the fuel efficiency is a surprisingly useful feature.

Usually I am the one carrying the weight……

Last weekends venture. Normally its a crooozer twin trailer out the back. – I have a 28:38 double. On my cutthroat for a reason

Kraku user here. Perfect for bikepacking. Very fast. Been using it for several years.

It does benefit from a windshield, also made by alpkit.

I’d also consider the koro.

Jetboil style are far too big and bulky imo.

Brs3000 linked above is same as alpkit kraku but a third of the price.

I have one, with a wind shield it’s decent!

I have an msr whisperlite but I don’t think I’d recommend it for UK camping for cooking water. Expensive, heavy, bulky.

I’ve got a msr pocket rocket and I think it’s great. I use it with a gas bottle holder to make it more secure.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185987968388?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=xegjnnrmqew&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=XQz0tf3FQJC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

If you use it with a windshield then it’s a lot more efficient. I bought a silly expensive ti shield that always threatens to slice my finger. With hindsight cut up a disposable baking tray/bbq tray.

I take a small bottle for a multi day trip and I never run out so a bigger bottle should be fine.

On the king Alfred’s way, I once shared an msr pocket rocket with a friend and he had one job, bring a gas bottle but the one he brought was empty. I couldn’t find a replacement bottle anywhere. A whisper lite will run on anything. Everything has a pro and a con.

You can always test how much gas you need by weighing the bottle before and after and then make sure you take enough gas bottles with you.

Petrol is energy dense. Even a small MSR bottle oulasts a few gas canisters IME. I don’t usually carry a stove in Summer – a coffee filter and sterilising tablets make surface water safe to drink. In Winter  and in glacial terrain a thirty-five year old MSR XKG converts a lot of ice into water or makes dodgy water safe, and saves carrying water.

have an msr whisperlite but I don’t think I’d recommend it for UK camping for cooking water. Expensive, heavy, bulky

Anything’s going to be more expensive than a stove he already owns….