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At least 19 far-right rallies are being planned across England in the coming days, the Guardian understands.
Jeezus
Oh this is **** hilarious:
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Pillock deserves to get bitten.
I'm less convinced at the copper seemingly thumping him repeatedly when he was on the deck, mind. What was going on there?
I’m less convinced at the copper seemingly thumping him repeatedly when he was on the deck, mind. What was going on there?
I'm pretty sure he accidentally fell down the stairs in the police station. That's what I saw and I can volunteer as a witness to it.
I’m less convinced at the copper seemingly thumping him repeatedly when he was on the deck, mind. What was going on there?
Looks like he’s dragged one police officer down with him, continuing to struggle with the police and gets strikes on his leg to gain compliance
continuing to struggle with the police and gets strikes on his leg to gain compliance
Sounds like an old Rock Shox review
Some of what Faridge says there sound like a veiled threat rather than a statement to me.
Came here to say the same.
Some of what Faridge says there sound like a veiled threat rather than a statement to me.
Copied from the Trump insurection playbook.
At least 19 far-right rallies are being planned across England in the coming days, the Guardian understands.
Hopefully one of them will be in Clacton, but somehow I doubt it.
Some of what Faridge says there sound like a veiled threat rather than a statement to me.
My view as well. "I don't support violence. But..." And the talk of breakdown of law and order. Was half expecting him to offer anyone who wanted to "help" a nice brown shirt.
Tomorrow in Central London could be interesting. There is a long planned national demo in support of Palestine and apparently the far-right are now planning their own march from Green Park to Buckingham Palace, which sounds very patriotic, no doubt they will be singing Rule Britannia at the gates of His majesty's residence.
It is extremely close to the Palestine Solidarity Campaign demo route with according to the police a potential flashpoint at Piccadilly.
I can't imagine that the Met have agreed to the far-right demo being so close to one in support of Palestine so I expect things to kick off pretty quickly - it will test the Met's public order capabilities.
I am not entirely sure why but the Palestine Solidarity Campaign have repeatedly emphasised that it is not technically the EDL. This might well be true but I am not sure why the PSC are keen to emphasis it.
I am. particularly concerned about Muslim women in Central London tomorrow as even away from the demo they are very easy for the far-right to identify, and a lot of demonstrators tomorrow will be young Muslim women. Unless I am doing something obvious like wearing a badge I can easily walk past an EDL muppet without attracting attention. Although the Croydon bloc which is meeting before hand at Victoria Station will include Muslim women so I will have to decide how close to them I want to stand 😉
For some reason this evening I’ve been getting a fair few live videos crop up on YouTube from these ‘protests’. I’ve been reporting them to YouTube, check your YT feeds out and do the same.
circa 18
You can’t be speaking forrin!!!! (feel free to add a “you slag!” for knucklehead emphasis)
The latest figure is 35.
Nation braces for weekend of far-right violence with 35 protests in wake of Southport stabbing
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/southport-far-right-protests-police-b2590232.html
If this turns out to be the case I can unfortunately see the real possibility of violent deaths.
I think we need to look at legislation where the Police can search anyone on suspicion of carrying knives, without the fear of being accused of racism.
We also need to toughen up on sentencing for carrying knives. There is no need to be out in public with one.
When we were young we used to be scared of the Police, nowadays some people end up attacking and punching them - and go on TV demanding action against them!
The Police have a tough job to carry out.
I am sure to misquote this , but isn't there some saying along the lines of " all it takes for bad people to succeed , is the good people to do nothing"
I really hope it rains alot more than the forecast tomorrow morning , thus dissuading alot of people from attending.
Police have the power to stop and search anyone, regardless of race.
Punishment for carrying knives have been ramped up over the 10-12 years.
C18 for short.
Combat 18 or Farage's Fascists
” all it takes for bad people to succeed , is the good people to do nothing”
Very much so.
Trouble in Sunderland tonight near a mosque according to BBC
Faridge is a total shit stirrer.
The meeehah need to stop giving the tossbandit any air time.
I know that he has been careful with his choice of words but it is clear that Nigel Farage's comments have been a huge encouragement to those engaging in rioting and other criminal activities.
I wonder if there are serious discussions taking place about the possibility of prosecuting Nigel Farage, and that there is a 'wait and see how things pan out over the weekend' before taking it any further?
I know that he has been careful with his choice of words but it is clear that Nigel Farage’s comments have been a huge encouragement to those engaging in rioting and other criminal activities.
I wonder if there are serious discussions taking place about the possibility of prosecuting Nigel Farage,
I've been a big fan of that idea through this thread, but I reckon he's just been clever enough with his words so far, and I doubt there's an offence of having an obvious underlying message.
Not for the first time I think back to his plane crash and wonder "what if..."
ernielynch
Full Member
Oh this is **** hilarious:
Hope that poor dog has had it's tetanus jab! 😀
What a shock to see one of these protestors with a beer in their hand.
True patriots are always pissed.
Farage is well versed with being just ambiguous enough to stay within the law.
Hell a prosecution attempt on him would probably be a great outcome for HIM anyway.
I still think him being an MP gives us a greater chance of him making some epic fudge up at some point though. We will have to be patient.
As he pointed out “I pay your wages” so its a bit unfair for him to have to provide a chewtoy for their dog as well.
Yep, life can sometimes give you what you need rather than what you want. 😉
Farage is well versed with being just ambiguous enough to stay within the law.
Yup. He would go full martyr after getting away with it since he dances around the "beyond reasonable doubt" requirement.
I still think him being an MP gives us a greater chance of him making some epic fudge up at some point though
I dont know about that since he is going to put the same effort into doing that properly as he did as an MEP. Might be some chance of "bringing parliament into disrepute" but he would just go full martyr again.
About the one thing to hope for is him having to reveal who is sending him money including in the previous 12 months since he might not have thought that part through when he saw the opportunity.
Some interesting comments from the imam from Liverpool in that article. I know exactly what he means by drawing a distinction between those in the crowd and the intentions of the organisers.
I wish him luck and I hope it goes well for him. I don't think it is the first time that sort of tactic has been used
Farage is well versed with being just ambiguous enough to stay within the law.
Hell a prosecution attempt on him would probably be a great outcome for HIM anyway.
I don't think he is as clever as he thinks he is. Obviously I wouldn't expect a prosecution unless there was an extremely good chance of it being successful. And I know nothing about what might be legally available.
It seems reasonable to me that it should be some sort of public order offence for someone with a high profile to publicly question whether the police are unacceptably withholding information concerning a suspect in a very serious crime, when that person is fully aware that his or her actions are likely to invite public disorder. Which is exactly what Farage has done.
And if it isn't perhaps legislation should be reviewed. Just look at the low level of tolerance shown towards climate change protestors.
A successful prosecution of Farage would be a serious blow to his political career. Politicians don't tend to benefit from falling foul of the law.
Part of the reason that Stephen Lennon is widely seen by the public as a thug and not, despite standing for election, a credible politician, is because of his countless convictions.
A successful prosecution of Farage might well endear him to a small number of his loyal supporters but it would alienate him to the wider voting public. Who aren't massively keen on him in the first place.
There does appear to be some corralling going on here with the right wing groups, hopefully the appropriate services have been watching closely, they've been waiting for some type of event so they can kick off, and they've used this horrific attack to pretend it's what they're doing it for, even though the suspect is UK born and bred, and by all accounts, not a muslim.
At a time where the courts and prisons are overflowing, we now have this across the nation to deal with, patriots indeed.
Some interesting comments from the imam from Liverpool in that article. I know exactly what he means by drawing a distinction between those in the crowd and the intentions of the organisers.
I hope it goes as he intends.
Watching the BBC coverage from Sunderland, talking of youths being encouraged by older men (groomed, if you will) with families out in support. It does sound like it's moving into a "normal riot" with looting rather than racial attacks.
Clearly a big risk joining the anti fascist counter demos. I do feel it's important for communities of all backgrounds and beliefs to stand up and speak out though. Traditionally the area round here was the BNP and UKIP heartland, not sure there's the appetite now or the religious focal points for anything to kick off nearby.
Who can doubt this guys just protesting out of concern for those poor bloody girls that were attacked? No one in sure.
https://twitter.com/miffythegamer/status/1819456248250880216
Which is exactly what Farage has done.
Also what he did was tweet that the disturbances in Leeds were related to Indian/****stani tensions, when it was already known that they weren't, and he was spreading the immigrant story in relation to the Southport tragedy. Maybe spreading unsubstantiated rumours needs to be an offence.
Clearly a big risk joining the anti fascist counter demos.
Yes there were some photos of a single woman holding up an anti ****s placard during the initial riots. Like the Green councillor in Leeds I couldnt help but think they were far braver and more patriotic than me.
Unfortunately the weather forecast suggests they will keep going for a few more days.
Maybe spreading unsubstantiated rumours needs to be an offence.
Tricky because that would block most decent investigative journalism especially since the targets often have deep pockets to support prosecutions.
Who can doubt this guys just protesting out of concern for those poor bloody girls that were attacked? No one in sure.
If it looks like a [s]duck[/s] nazi, walks like a [s]duck[/s] nazi and quacks like a [s]duck[/s] nazi then treat it like a duck and go duck hunting
Clearly a big risk joining the anti fascist counter demos.
Only possibly in accessing the demo but not really once on it. I was on the last anti fascist counter demonstration in Central London a couple of weeks ago and I felt perfectly safe. Had to be a little careful going to and from the demo though.
We've been told to expect two hostile demos tomorrow in Central London, one by the far-right and one by the pro-Israeli zionists, but both are now expected to be small.
The far-right EDL types are actually quite few in numbers, they had a big turnout a fortnight ago in London because they came from all over the country. Tomorrow with dozens of far-right demos occurring they will struggle to get reasonable numbers in any one place.
IMO those mostly likely to be at risk this weekend are any non whites and people who are obviously Muslim, not necessarily those on anti fascist demonstrations.
Farage is well versed with being just ambiguous enough to stay within the law.
Back when I was a moderator on STW there were a handful of posters who had worked out exactly where the line was and were masters at dancing on the knife edge. And they knew it. Always pushing at boundaries but never quite going far enough for us to issue a ban without being inconsistent in our moderation. And also, knowing full well that if they did get an enforced holiday they could dine out on it for years.
Farage puts me in mind of those posters, only with considerably higher stakes. He's playing a dangerous game and ultimately the house always wins, the only real question is how much collateral damage there will be before his luck runs out. And sadly, I rather suspect that will be "a lot."
Southport is one part catalyst, one part excuse. This has been coming for decades. No-one with a swastika tattoo cares about a few murdered kids, they just want to beat up some ****stanis.
Caring patriots looting... a vape store. A vape store.
https://twitter.com/TeesPix/status/1819470461073608937
It's not very obvious from that 5 sec clip!
there were a handful of posters who had worked out exactly where the line was and were masters at dancing on the knife edge. And they knew it. Always pushing at boundaries but never quite going far enough for us to issue a ban without being inconsistent in our moderation
Don't be coy let's have full list of names past and present.
ernielynch
Full Member
It’s not very obvious from that 5 sec clip!
Yeah, it wasn't actually the clip I thought, there is one about where they have completely shoved the window in and are carrying stuff out.
Don’t be coy let’s have full list of names past and present.
I suspect Cougar isn't daft enough to do that.
It’s not very obvious from that 5 sec clip!
Windows magnifier and zoom in to about 400%. Shop is full of people and in the last second we can see a young boy walking in too. In fact there seems to be a number of kids in that mob.
As ever GB news while appearing to speak about lawlessness are including their usual about immigration when the two shouldnt be in the same conversation.
I'll take your word for it! Can't zoom
Its a built in windows feature. just enable it on your taskbar.
My eyes arent what they used to be, and sometimes text is hard to read, so the magnifier is great for that. Just zooming in 150% makes a massive difference.
Yeah it's working for me now. Couldn't do the zoom feature earlier
Just to inject the occasional bit of humour these riots need in order to not completely disaster of (some of) humankind:
https://twitter.com/munyachawawa/status/1819435490006749477
Just seen the news and one of the leaders in the Sunderland riots is wear a bright orange railway hi-vi vest.... how thick are they! Perfect for the police to film and track that halfwit, stands out from the crowd perfectly.
We’ve been told to expect two hostile demos tomorrow in Central London, one by the far-right and one by the pro-Israeli zionists, but both are now expected to be small.
LittleMissMC and her mum are down in London tomorrow to see a show - God help any numbskull fascist who interferes with the Musical Theatre Massive!
Mean Girls?
Oh blimey. My wife went a couple of weeks ago and has booked again. They are going to need a lot of tissues.
I don't recognise these so-called patriots. I recognise Darren though, and they are way more Darrens among us as i think we're about to find out.
https://twitter.com/JohninBucuresti/status/1819428571267715120
Money will be Farage’s downfall, like Al Capone. There’s very strict rules about funding and reporting now he’s an MP. He may well come to regret actually winning once journalists get a proper grip and start investigating him instead of using him as a source of cheap and easy content.
Bleedin ell, that Darren is the Man!
He's got a proper gift of the gab. He should stand for election - I would love to see him having a televised head-to-head debate with Nigel Farage, he would destroy him.
Thanks for posting.
Powerful stuff from Darren, what a guy.
Burning the local Citizens' Advice Bureau is the best way to express the concerns of ordinary, working people.
https://twitter.com/Parody_PM/status/1819642652989550980
Whatever happened to those water cannon that Boris tried to get for London, out of interest?
Bravo Darren. It sounds like his looks, background and voice make people assume he is something he is not. People like him needed to help educate others in tolerance because let's be honest people.are more like to listen to someone that looks and sounds like them than they are a middle class politician.
Darren reminds me Jeff Innocent interviewed on the Josh Widdecombe and Rob Beckett podcast.
They need to start teaching this in schools
FFS now getting more live YT stuff from Manchester, one seems to be one of them ‘auditor’ ****s
*hits report
A friend of mine is in Manchester today.
She has anxiety issues (and terminal cancer), her mum is with her and fragile, having buried her father (ie my friend's grandfather) earlier this week. They're scared witless, they've bundled into a taxi to escape.
These idiots don't see this, they don't see the impact they have on normal people just wanting to go about their day. It's all a big laugh, get tanked up on beer and who knows what else, put some windows through, have a ruck with the popo, hopefully give a few foreigners a slap.
In Hyde Park Central London ATM, I cannot believe how huge the demo in support of Palestine is. It wasn't given massive publicity so I suspect that recent events has influenced the huge turnout. Even by usual standards the Muslim turnout is enormous.
I haven't seen one single EDL type despite the fact that they are supposed to be assembling just up the road, not even at Victoria train station.
Nation braces for weekend of far-right violence with 35 protests in wake of Southport stabbing
Sorry to ask a dumb Q, it's been an unusual week here and I'm out of the loop a bit. What is actually being protested here, is there still a load of kuckleheads kicking off over the idea that the offender was an immigrant or Muslim, or is now just because he was Rwandan? Or are they just kicking off because they're bored morons? I think I know the answer but...
I don't remember anything like this happening after Dunblane or Hungerford? The offenders were white and there was no Tommy Robinson, Farage or Tate on SM seeing an opportunity.
Quite simply, the Tories spent the last 14 years making these people poorer along with damaging the NHS, social care, council budgets etc, and the likes of Farage etc managed to convince these people that it's all the fault of foreigners.
They got Brexit done, now they're going after anyone who isn't white
^ yeah thought as much. I suppose in a weird way I was interested in how long the SM BS was lasting. "a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes" supposedly, but how long a lie lasts .. maybe it doesn't matter once the mob mentality is engaged.
There needs to be charges applied to those in positions of influence who stoke this. Freedom of speech yes, alongside the responsibility of how loud your speech can be and accepting the consequences. If there aren't any consequences we have a real problem.
CNN News 18 seems to have decided to platform Tommy R today. Owned by Discovery/Warner. Wonder what's going on there? Indian news channel but the host is a Canadian, Erza Levant.
Guess it's a bit like Sky News Australia/Sky News UK. Very different.
They got Brexit done, now they’re going after anyone who isn’t white
Brexit was the vehicle. Not the destination. For lots of bad actors in various fields.
FFS now getting more live YT stuff from Manchester, one seems to be one of them ‘auditor’ ****s
I don't mind idiots livestreaming other idiots, helps the police identify rioters and get them arrested, processed and jailed.
I haven’t seen one single EDL type despite the fact that they are supposed to be assembling just up the road, not even at Victoria train station.
I get the feeling that while smashing up undefended shops and lobbing bricks is great fun, they would run a mile if it looked like Cable Street mk II was about to kick off, and without the Met on their side like last time.
I bloody love Darren.
Edit - just seen a post from Notts Police regarding two marches in the city today, and warning anyone looking to cause trouble to not bother.
“a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes” supposedly, but how long a lie lasts .. maybe it doesn’t matter once the mob mentality is engaged.
This, really.
The mainstream media run headlines about immigrants, then post a retraction in a small box-out on page 16 a couple of days later. The truth doesn't matter, the damage is done, the seeds are planted.
Fast forward to today, folk in local social media are going "they've cut benefits for pensioners, why can't I have a free five star hotel like all the illegal immigrants get?" Seriously, I literally read this earlier today, people believe this shit. I think by this point they want to believe it.
CNN News 18 seems to have decided to platform Tommy R today. Owned by Discovery/Warner. Wonder what’s going on there? Indian news channel but the host is a Canadian, Erza Levant.
It’s little more than Narendra Modi’s BJP party propaganda outlet and is biased towards his anti Muslim stance, it has also platformed spokespersons from the RSS right wing Hindu nationalist party so it’s entirely fitting for the channel to platform the likes of Yaxley-Lennon
(I spent 6 months in India and still email/converse with folk I met out there so get snippets of news and stuff from them)
These idiots don’t see this, they don’t see the impact they have on normal people just wanting to go about their day.
Let's hope everyone who's caused all this disruption and huge amounts of damage get even stronger sentences than the Just Stop oil protesters. Won't hold my breath...
Feeling pretty depressed about the state of world today Tbh. These riots and the whole disgusting rhetoric over the women's boxing. It's just culture war after culture war.
I don’t remember anything like this happening after Dunblane or Hungerford?
Exactly my thoughts when things first kicked off. Only the white British community are allowed to have deranged murderous lunatics, we expect much more from black and brown people.
I bloody love Darren
He's amazing isn't he? Not only is he eloquent and speaks in a manner which the man on the street can understand, but he is very clearly speaking from the heart.
I hope it's not the last we hear from him.
The mainstream media run headlines about immigrants, then post a retraction in a small box-out on page 16 a couple of days later. The truth doesn’t matter, the damage is done, the seeds are planted.
No consequences and we have a real problem.
The majority of the media can do one, waste of time and no credibility. SM too, it just brings the morons on either side to the top via the algorithms. I learned all I need to know about people from those around me. No Muslims or immigrants ever trashed my town, I've never been threatened by a group of out of control Muslims or immigrants, they've never taken anything from me.
Darren speaks for me too (great clip, I'd deleted twitter but there are some gems on there and that's one of them)