We literally all learned about it at school
I literally didn't. That was a long time ago though and I have learned a lot about it since as WW2 war and lead up to the war over the previous decade are a fascinating subject that could be a GCSE in itself.
They can all return to JD wetherspoons and shovel Stella down their necks
Many tales of heroic acts will be recited, how they stuck it to the man , and if there had only been a few more of them they would have won
And all of them will be claiming that they threw the brick of devine retribution
Im waiting to hear of the sentences these scumbags are due.
Its just a shame we can't prosecute that parasite farage. And that is exactly what he is, a blight on planet Earth.
That was a long time ago though and I have learned a lot about it since as WW2 war and lead up to the war over the previous decade are a fascinating subject that could be a GCSE in itself.
Weimar Republic is a GCSE History topic, both my kids did it, both watch BBCs "Rise of the Nazis" as part of it,both drew parallels with the move to the right in UK politics.
If we don't learn the lessons etc.
This isn't rioting. This is the EDL trying to start their race war.
Let’s hope the justice system goes after them as hard as peaceful climate protesters
It’s insane… I mean what the hell is wrong with these people? Maybe I’m naive, but there’s just no logic to it… something happens that some people don’t like, so they smash up thier own neighbourhood and fight the police… I mean…wtf???
There's a crowd psychology to it and you'll probably find that the rioters aren't from that neighbourhood. A group of rioters will coalesce around common rules and social identity, as will opposing rioters
Google Prof Stephen Reicher if you want to know more 🙂
I literally didn’t.
Interesting - I asked my wife about this, and she didn't learn any 20th century history either ("something about a seed drill?"). I assumed it was part of the national curriculum - obviously not. Would certainly explain why people aren't making the obvious connections.
Let’s hope the justice system goes after them as hard as peaceful climate protesters
The justice system did its job correctly in that case, it's the legislation that should be debated
It’s insane… I mean what the hell is wrong with these people? Maybe I’m naive, but there’s just no logic to it… something happens that some people don’t like, so they smash up thier own neighbourhood and fight the police… I mean…wtf???
I see there were 'disturbances' in Manchester last night. It was protests outside a hotel housing asylum seekers. I happened to be working right next to it recently. I felt sorry for the asylum seekers who were obviously stuck in limbo, waiting for decisions that never came, in one of the cities... erm... less salubrious areas. They'd spend their days playing football in the car park, when it wasn't raining. Not much of a life.
If you see the footage from last night, it looks exactly as I thought it would. A small gang of the local bored scrotes, all of whom also spend their days doing nothing (through choice), kicking off just because thats what they do.
If you were to idly wonder which group - asylum seekers or the local scrotes - were most likely to end up making a worthwhile contribution to society.....
https://Twitter.com/JerryHicksUnite/status/1818909177898467585
A small gang of the local bored scrotes, all of whom also spend their days doing nothing (through choice), kicking off just because thats what they do.
It's hot, sunny, they've been drinking since noon, busy checking their phones...What else is there to do?
It’s hot, sunny, they’ve been drinking since noon, busy checking their phones…What else is there to do?
Getting worked up about asylum seekers in 5-star hotels and being given brand new iPhones no doubt, then protesting at the Holiday Inn, Newton Heath.
It’s hot, sunny, they’ve been drinking since noon, busy checking their phones…What else is there to do?
I suspect the hot/sunny/drinking element makes the bollocks they see on their phones a bit more rational in their tiny minds
No one rioted…
30,000+ people die each year from air pollution in the UK alone, but no one cares about that. Well, actually, they do, but only to the extent of destroying the ULEZ infrastructure designed to protect people. Pretty sure the same people who are out with angle grinders are the same ones throwing bricks at these riots.
I guess they're fine with kids dying as long as they're brown.
Ah, Newton Heath. Where the Huguenots escaped to after fleeing persecution on mainland Europe in the 16th century, bringing with them their advanced cotton & linen weaving skills, which lead to the textile mills. As worked in by the Irish immigrants that up to half of all Mancunians are related to.
It's a funny old world.
Im waiting to hear of the sentences these scumbags are due.
After the 2011 London riots two kids got 4 years for inciting over Facebook a riot which never took place. Although I think the sentences might have been reduced on appeal.
Apparently last night over a hundred were arrested in London. They are going to need a large floating prison or something to house them all
The lad in the grey running up & down giving it the big one - officer takes 2 steps in his direction & the lad runs off like a scared little bird. So hard, so brainless, such a waste of space..
You can't claim Job Seekers on remand, innit.
Interesting – I asked my wife about this, and she didn’t learn any 20th century history either (“something about a seed drill?”). I assumed it was part of the national curriculum – obviously not.
I studied history O'level (before GCSE's) in the late 70's and we weren't taught it because it wasn't classed as history due to it's recent proximity timewise. The things I remember as subjects were history of medicine & the industrial revolution. wish I had been taught about the 2nd world War as it's way more interesting, and TBH I'm a bit obsessed with it these days.
Interesting – I asked my wife about this, and she didn’t learn any 20th century history either
I didn't take history as an O level which may explain why even if it was covered I would not have learnt about it. It would need to be taught before the subject selections for GCSE are made I suppose (if that is still a thing)
KS3 history now must include the holocaust. Then there's additional subject along that, it could be the rise of the Nazis, but it could just as easily be Britain's post war economic boom, or Suez (for instance)
I think when I did O level it was Normans and the Industrial Revolution (Is there a more boring 'important' period in history?) For A level I did European History, so many Charles's and Louis'...
The Times seem to feel that they know a lot about the suspect and they appear to completely contradict the police's claim that he was born in Wales
“He didn’t speak about Rwanda properly but you could definitely tell with his accent, and I think he had mentioned that he was originally from Rwanda. His brother was a lot more talkative … his dad came across quite educated, and presentable.”
You could definitely tell from his accent that he was from Rwanda? I am assuming that his accent wasn't Welsh then.
I thought the big problem at the moment with the rioting was misinformation, I don't think the Times suggesting that the police aren't telling the truth is going to help
I did history GCSE, but I honestly thought that some of this was pre-GCSE? Maybe I'm misremembering? It was 30+ years ago
Did the original Times story carry a byeline? Because that journalist should be ashamed.
I honestly thought that some of this was pre-GCSE?
It was for us. And for our kids. Nick seems to know more… if teaching about the Holocaust is mandated for KS3, that’s before GCSE options.
I guess they’re fine with kids dying as long as they’re brown.
I'm not convinced they are concerned about white kids dying either, it's the colour of the killer that's the all important issue for these types.
I don't think for a second there would have been riots if the attacker had been white. Farage, Fox etc wouldn't have given a shit either. Doesn't fit the narrative.
EDL needs to be made a proscribed organisation.
A GB News (or might have been the Mail) "journalist" was desperately clutching at straws saying it can't be anything to do with the EDL as they disbanded in 2013... obviously trying to pretend that means they (and by extension the far right) dont really exist anymore. Sure pal.
Oh, he happened to also be one of the bad actors that retweeted the whole asylum seeker called (I can't remember) on MI6 watch list" bollocks. What a surprise.
farage didn't turn up to ask questions in parliament, he did a social media post. anyone who voted remain should have a think about that
This made me smile though...
Oh FFS with images....
Newsthump t-shirt with a Pink Floyd related tribute
So, we all know that (social) media lies have led to this appalling situation. Is spreading misinformation an actual offence, do we know? That journalist, and the Dishonourable Tool for Clacton must be right on the edge for it.
farage didn’t turn up to ask questions in parliament, he did a social media post.
Farage knows his appeal is to morons, so there are no consequences. During the Brexit campaign he was forever banging on about fishing quotas. It was pointed out that he could have attended many of the debates about fishing quotas while he was an MEP and directly influence policy. You know… actually do your day job
How many did he actually attend? None. Obviously.
He’s all about ego-driven grandstanding, stoking grievances and offering simple solutions to complex problems. He’s zero interest in the hard graft of actually doing stuff. As the idiots in Clacton who voted for him are in the process of finding out
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This made me smile though…Oh FFS with images….
Newsthump t-shirt with a Pink Floyd related tribute
The Direct Link option on Postimage is currently working for me with pics.
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farage didn’t turn up to ask questions in parliament, he did a social media post. anyone who voted remain should have a think about that
Do you mean people that voted Leave? I'm confused! Lol
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So, we all know that (social) media lies have led to this appalling situation. Is spreading misinformation an actual offence, do we know?
Even if it is outright illegal (not sure it even is?), the likes of Tice, Farage etc are extremely careful how they do it.
I think I might have posted a tweet from Tice? Anyway, he basically does the whole, "are we actually being told everything, I don't know but it's a valid question" followed up with "but I absolutely do not condone violence." Everyone knows what he means by that whether you think he is a hero or a villain. It's a sly "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" way of saying to his supporters "go on lads, you are right, this stinks, crack on... Im with you but can't say so as the elites will shaft me."
You look at the tweets from Farage and a lot of the other usual suspects. It's all in a very similar style. Plausible deniability basically and almost impossible to prosecute I would think.
Binners, yesterday:
https://twitter.com/RobBfromDerby/status/1818656219961110640
Disappointed that it wasn't captioned Jesse's Riots.
And all of them will be claiming that they threw the brick of devine retribution
Hereafter known as The Holy Handbrick of Antioch.
something happens that some people don’t like, so they smash up thier own neighbourhood
As I understand it, it mostly wasn't their own neighbourhood. They'd travelled to do this.
I see there were ‘disturbances’ in Manchester last night. It was protests outside a hotel housing asylum seekers.
That's truly ****ed up. People are fleeing war zones so... what, let's make them feel at home?
The Times has been hedging its bets for a few yrs now. You've only got to look at the some of the hacks on there to see what they really want to happen. Think Gerard Baker, Melanie Phillips & Rod Liddle. It comes as no surprise to me that they've decided to have a little grift..
I've just finished a module on 20th century European history as part of a History degree. This all feels very 1920s Germany. Disaffected people having their fears and prejudices stoked enough to go out and start cracking skulls and breaking shit, which is exactly the point. Their violence will encourage further violence, which liberal societies, like ours, like Weimar Germany, seem completely wrong-footed by.
I see there were ‘disturbances’ in Manchester last night. It was protests outside a hotel housing asylum seekers.
That’s truly ****ed up. People are fleeing war zones so… what, let’s make them feel at home?
Same in Ireland. Anywhere that gets labelled as potentially being used to house asylum seekers, the white yobs turn up and set fire to it.
Because asylum seekers are stealing all their jobs, y'see.
