Are semi-slicks a dying breed?

So I’ve (mostly) enjoyed running a semi-slick on the back of my hardtail for the theoretically less wet half of the year but I’ve noticed they’ve become less and less common to see people using, and after a cornucopia of new semi-slick reviews about a decade ago there don’t seem to be any new ones happening and a lot of brands don’t have any/many variants.

My other semi-slick observation is that although I like how they ride, they seem to be the only tyres I tend to have fail – round here it’s sharp flints cutting through the casing that kills my tyres (I run inserts and reasonably tough casings vs my not terribly rad speed or style). I don’t think there’s enough knob height to keep the flints away from the casing when I’m panic braking on looser steeper stuff.

Anyway, having cut a rather large hole in a Rock Razor at the weekend I’ve just put an Eliminator on there instead…

They’re making a gravel-driven comeback for sure. My old Bonty SSes were rocket powered.

I’d been thinking about this and I like semi slicks.

I wish WTB would bring back the Breakout.

They probably are. I do wonder if it’s connected to the rise in steep off-piste trails.

Being able to slow down a tad is quite useful.

They’re making a gravel-driven comeback for sure.

WTB need to do the Raddler in 2.4in tough casing eh

Vittoria mezcal on the back of my xc bike. Barzo up front. bumped into another cyclist round here running exactly the same so doesn’t seem out of fashion to me.

bikes so fast now I have to do an aero tuck on roads. Seriously considering a drop bar gravel bike as a result…

Those old Panaracer Mach SS were so fast. About a 1.9 width too weren’t they. By the end of the summer they used to be in shreds 🙂

I just run my tyres until they’re semi slick.

I did have Maxxis Bling Bling’s back in the day. They were rapid but they basically punctured every time I left the house.

The most recent one I had was a Specialized Slaughter and they had the same problem. Crappy Spesh tyre casings and plasticky rubber. I didn’t use that for long.

I kept my Minion SS on the back of my hardtail all winter  as I was only riding trail centres. I’ve been enjoying it immensely

Saw title and came on to suggest that the Eliminator is probably the modern day equivilant to the SS tyre and probably you will be better off with it.

my minion SS with a DH casing was the BEST!

while light tyres are fast and great i’ve sliced open pretty much every non-gravity/dh casing tyre i’ve owned on the local flints.

You just buy the knobbly tyres you want then use the knobble cutting tool don’t you?

I wanted some for my rigid 29er and ended up with Racing Ralphs since they are almost as quick and much more versatile. I run them all year, although I do have the luxury of being able to avoid proper clay slop during winter.

But one day you surely end up belting down a loose descent, only to discover you.  just. can’t. stop.

Then stitches later in the afternoon.  Or, at least, that is how Racing Ralphs worked for me.

I’ve been really really surprised by the speed of rocket rons. not a semi slick, but I’d swapped out what I’d considered a fairly rapid tyre, the spesh S works fast trak for a ron and it feels both much faster, and much grippier on looser stuff.

fastest tyre I’ve used on a MTB was the terrano XC. it’s very very quick, and does hook up albeit using the small hexagonal channels rather than traditional tread and leaning heavily on softer compound, so great for hardpack and rocks. falls over on anything damp, but still corners OK once it slides over to the edges.

I did find it crap once it started to wear though. Once you lose those channels, the tyre has nothing to offer.

as an aside, I’d never use a ss on the front, I was scarred by my experience of using a wildgripper sprint s back in the day..

Still love a Minion SS on the rear for most riding this time of year… but as pointed out… they’re not great for steep controlled tech (DHRII for a quite stark comparison).

Maybe not a full semi-slick, but I used to love the WTB Weirwolf LT for the Herts woods:

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Now I tend to ride the same trails on my gravel bike though.

Have they not been rebranded as gravel tyres?

Panaracer grave kings are worth a shout though

I still have a Slaughter on one bike and a Rock Razor, I once ran the Slaughter through winter and it actually worked ok with a decent front tyre.

Vittoria mezcal on the back of my xc bike. Barzo up front. bumped into another cyclist round here running exactly the same so doesn’t seem out of fashion to me.

The Mezcal is not a semi slick though is it?  I use them front and rear and they do feel fast which is maybe why semi slicks are not so available now as better to have a fast tyre that has some grip.

I’ve just taken delivery of a (PSA: cheap on Merlin at the mo) Hans Dampf for the rear of my mullet MTB.

The low treads on that are about as close as I want to go to a semi-slick these days.

Maybe the rolling speed advantage vs grip isn’t what it was?

I usually pick up an Ultra soft Mary and soft Rock Razor about now for the Mega. Thought I’d try a Big Betty on the back this year due to size/cost/availability. A few rides on it and it rolls pretty well.

But yeah love a Semi Slick usually to help mitigate my Fitness or lack thereof.

” I’ve just taken delivery of a (PSA: cheap on Merlin at the mo) Hans Dampf for the rear of my mullet MTB.”

It does roll well, great for £20 or whatever they were. Wouldn’t want to pay full price for one though.

I really like Rock Razors, with the proviso that you also need a properly grippy tyre up front as it’ll be doing most of the braking. I don’t know if they’re a ‘dying breed’, I think they’ve always been something of a minority taste tbh. Maybe in the context of a world where a lot of people seem to be running downhill tyres as ‘trail’ tyres, they’re even more of a niche thing. I don’t think I can I remember a time when you ever saw lots of them tbh.

I’ve recently put Bonty XR3s onto my rigid Ti HT … my god, they’re fast! Hopeless in mud, but surprisingly good on dry techy XC woodland trails (until you come to stop on a slightly sketchy downhill section where fallen branches have blocked the trail)

“But one day you surely end up belting down a loose descent, only to discover you. just. can’t. stop.”

I’ve got a Magic Mary on the front with a 160mm fork to eke out every bit of grip!

I wasn’t referring to XC tyres like a Racing Ralph, more the ones that have big side knobs like Minion but with lots of small low profile centre knobs instead of the much larger taller centre knobs you’d get on Minion-alikes. Same with the Mezcal (looks like an Ardent Race.)

It does roll well, great for £20 or whatever they were. Wouldn’t want to pay full price for one though.

I used to have them as my default rear a few years ago, when I also used to be worse at riding steep trails.

We’ll soon find out if that was correlation or causation, eh 😀

Thought I’d try a Big Betty on the back this year due to size/cost/availability. A few rides on it and it rolls pretty well.

I’ve only tried the Supergravity ones, but I’d say it’s a fairly slow roller. Michelin Wild Enduro (my current default) is noticeably easier for me. Stiff carcass may play a role there.

Pretty sure that Schwalbe have discontinued the Rock Razor and replaced it with the Wicked Will?

Currently loving the hardtail with Speedgrip NN Front and WW rear

Bontrager SE2 is worth a look. Small knobs, beefy casing.

One of the new Bontrager tyres is rather semi-slicky. Cam is at pains to not say the word semislick in the over-hyped promo vid 😆

Also the king of 90s Polaris semi-slick, the Double Fighter, is still very much available

CONTINENTAL DOUBLE FIGHTER III 29X2.00 WIRED TYRE

Love the noise a Rock Razor makes when it’s locked up over a tree root or edge,,

“I’ve only tried the Supergravity ones, but I’d say it’s a fairly slow roller. Michelin Wild Enduro (my current default) is noticeably easier for me. Stiff carcass may play a role there“

Yeah, mines a Supergravity Soft @ about 18psi with Procore.

Maybe my Fitness has improved 🤣. Or I’ve got used to dragging knobbly tyres about during our extended winter.

Ive got a Rock Razor from last year with a bit of life left I might sling on for qualifying this year.

I realise I’m not answering the question here, but it’s funny how the perception of tyre grip changes with your riding style (and mates).

For me most of the time and my XC riding mates: Mezcal / Bonty XR2 / Racing Ralph / Race Kings would be considered all-rounders. Barzo / Bonty XR3 / X – Kings / Rocket Rons are wet weather tyres unless it’s proper slop. Then when things are properly dry the slicks come out!

This weekend I’ll (hopefully) be using a Terrano (file tread) front and rear at the XC National at Woodys. It’s all bike-park-y so very little hard braking is needed. If they did them in  a 29er XC carcass I’d use my all time favourite jump bike tyres: DMR Supermotos!

The downside of all the silly fast tyres is my enduro bike feeling like a heavily sedated slug.

I really enjoy the old Spesh Slaughter. Only bought it for summer but it was just fine for the bulk of winter duties so ended up leaving it on and just careful not to grab a handful of rear brake on wet grass. I think the shoulder lugs still give a lot of climbing traction that a more rounded, low profile tyre won’t offer.

You just reminded me I need to fit my Rock Razor to the back of the HT. But yeah, they’re like rocking horse shit these days!

I always find the grip amazing on dry roots, there’s a bit of a climb over a set of big awkward roots on my old local trails that I only every cleaned with a Slaughter or RR on.

Pretty sure that Schwalbe have discontinued the Rock Razor

Yes.

I grabbed one while I could, thinking to try it, but never did so sold it. I thought it’d be fun but really the implications of having to do all your braking with the front didn’t really appeal, especially on unfamiliar trails or when you get yourself into a spot of bother.

I still like a slaughter on the back for bikepacking. It was going brilliantly until I smashed it into a pointy rock on the Jen ride and punctured the side and top. Fixed with a mushroom plug when I got home and it seems fine.

I’ve gone for a butcher at the back so far this year. The confidence some decent tread as given me in the corners is mostly making up for straight-line speed.

Vittoria mezcal on the back of my xc bike. Barzo up front

Got exactly the same on my HT and FS

Pretty sure that Schwalbe have discontinued the Rock Razor and replaced it with the Wicked Will?

Yeah I noticed that, so I popped a Wicked Will on my enduro bike to see what it’s like. Ultra Soft Tacky Chan upfront and SpeedGrip WW.

Rolls very well, as expected grip in loose steeps isn’t great but it’s predictable.

N1no’s Maxxis Aspen 2.4 seem to be pretty slick and still very much in vogue.

I’d quite like a 2.5 DD Minion SS but they don’t make them that big

Reading through the replies here I’m sensing ‘semi-slick’ has a wide range of different meanings to different people.

I really liked my Minion SS. Looks like they’re still available from some places.