I spot what looks very much like a Jones loop copy from alpkit, I thought that Jeff had a patent on welded grip sections on handlebars? Hence why the mary was bendy rather than welded, no?
Anyone got any more info?
Brant, Brant, Brant!
What I really want is a Jones bar that is slightly wider and slightly less sweep. Is this it?
Saw those and had a fiddle today at the warehouse. No details on cost, Spec etc though. Sadly not on my bike so I couldn’t rest them on top to compare.
It’ll be a bit of a shame if they are a near as damn it copy of the Jones bar. Pricing of jeff’s stuff is a touch steep but he almost deserves that premium for creating his designs and having the balls to go through with them.
I know imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but that is cheeky as chuff. What next? an alpkit truss fork and swooping frame called the Spacious frame? very surprised, they didn’t do what surly have done and acknowledge Jeff and sell their bike with a jones loop like on the surly ECR
Titec j and h bars were made under licence to jones. It depends if you screw over the creative guys then all you are left with is imitators looking for another person to leech ideas from.
On another forum I saw someone post the following:
“I think the thing to remember is that with other brand names, you are paying a lot for extensive research and development. ***** Group don’t spend any money on this (they just copy everything) so they can pass on the savings to the buyer.”
What a sad state of affairs. If you play music you can probably work out who this refers to…
I hope so Stoner, I really do. I’ve always liked alpkit stuff and have lots of good products from them, but if they are basically and blatantly ripping off Jones then that would be last time I ever shop with them.
fingers crossed they have sorted something officially with Jones.
I thought exactly the same thing. I really liked the Alpkit stand I’ve got some of their bags and I’d consider one of their bikes. I hope it’s not just a copy without licensing.
Alpkit made (make?) some frame bags to fit Jones frames once upon a time (and used his logo IIRC) so maybe they have a working relationship of some kind?
Aren’t all those Alpkit/Wildcat bags just copies of Revelate and Porcelain Rocket stuff anyway? Is there something specific to Jones stuff that means it shouldn’t be copied or have some folk just woken up to capitalism?
Alpkit made (make?) some frame bags to fit Jones frames once upon a time (and used his logo IIRC) so maybe they have a working relationship of some kind?
Damn, I only went looking for a pic after johnny above said revelate and I’d thought it was PR, but the jones site had a ton of Revelate stuff so presumed he had switched. Indeed he had but somehow I managed to google the only pic of a PR bag… DOH!
Bags… I previously asked Alpkit to make a batch of bags for Jeff Jones Diamond and Spaceframe frames. I provided the Jones badges for them to include in the production (and provided them with frames and H-Bars to work from). We talked about a bag for the Loop H-bars.
The bar is not something I (or Jeff) was aware of until seeing it here. I have emailed Col and Kenny at Alpkit about it. I wait to hear.