- 900 lumen P7 torches from DX
Yes they're ace. I've got two, used to use one on the head and one on the bars, more than bright enough (even with just one) for full on night riding. I now only use one on the head and a Deal Extreme bike light on the bars. Great quality as well for the price, mine have lasted well over a year without any problems.Posted 8 years agogab344Member
Got the five mode light, with UK charger here:-Posted 8 years ago
Took 5 weeks to arrive.
No problems with it so far, been using on the local trails quite a lot recently. Both button leds on back of the head operate, and the indicator on the charger goes from red to green etc… All works as advertised, 🙂 well pleased for now.BigJohnSubscriber
I ordered the 16092 torch (plus helmet mount, charger & 2 batteries) on 20th Jan and it all arrived 2nd feb. £36 all in and its jolly good (as a helmet light to go with my Lumi 3Led light). You can get them from some places in the UK for a lot more money.Posted 8 years ago
16092 is 5 mode and a nice flood beam, that compliments my Lumi spot.
Had two for over a year now. SKU12060 is the one to go for. They're not 900 lumen's, probably about 650. Can be a faff but a cheap way of getting £250's worth of light for £50 or so.
Ran a Hope HID before.
A beam comparison below. (Exposure time for the P7 was 0.5sec less so its actually very slightly brighter).
DX P7 (SKU12060)Posted 8 years ago
2 of them, they're ace. Only the very best "proper" lights are better, and then not by much. 2 cheap torches is better on the trails than any single proper light, even the wallet-bursting Seca 900. Durable too, and unlimited burn time.
When you look at the Exposure range- Joysticks and Diablos in particular- you realise just what a total ripoff some bike lights are. They're just torches, only they actually have worse functionality than these torches because the batteries aren't easily replacable. They have nice mounts but that's it. Yet people happily spend a packet on them. It's bizarre tbh.Posted 8 years agoDickBartonMember
fbk – I can beat that (but thankfully not my own money) – mate snapped my bar mount so another mate was ordering up a light (the same one Takasawa has (and I have as well)), batteries, charger and mounts. His torch arrived 2 months later, the batteries and mount a further 2 weeks after that, the charger a week after that and we are still waiting on my bar mount. He ordered his at the beginning of October…
Forgot to say, it is a very good light for the price…it might not be as fancy as the really expensive lights with all their smart settings and stuff, but it works very well, gives off a very good light spread and lasts well enough. The one I have, I rarely run it on full power, but I've got 6 batteries so have the potential for about 12hrs riding, changing the battery isn't a hassle and does give you a bit more flexibility in riding times. The lowest flood is fine for road riding and the medium setting is fine for flats and climbing and the high beam is very good for fast downhilling. A very good torch that has proved reliable for the price.
Saying that, the last 3 months I've not used it (but my mates have) as I was lucky enough to be given some new lights which I'm loving!Posted 8 years agostilltortoiseSubscriber
Has anyone ordered from here; http://www.lumilite.co.uk
yes, on Friday. Not turned up yet but expecting them imminently. They are half price at the moment – £85 including postage
EDIT when you pay it takes you to a personal PayPal site of the guy who brings them in. I spoke to him on the mobile to check it is kosher. I'm keeping fingers crossed he was telling the truth 😯Posted 8 years ago
Ok so which p7 torch is the best?
There all much of a muchness, with very little between them, though as above I'd recommend a five mode torch over the 2 mode one. The 2 mode torches low setting is useless, but the medium on the 5 is great for road use – still gives enough light to ride by and not blind all on coming drivers.
So if you buy a 5 mode and use the medium mode on roads and canal tow paths or such like, you easily get 2 hrs out of the battery.
If you do insist though, this would be my recommendation:Posted 8 years ago
5 Mode P7 LED Torch http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16092
[EDIT: opps posted the worng one, now changed]Mounty_73Member
EDIT when you pay it takes you to a personal PayPal site of the guy who brings them in. I spoke to him on the mobile to check it is kosher. I'm keeping fingers crossed he was telling the truth
Yes, that was one of my concerns, the site just doesn't feel right…let me know how you get on…Posted 8 years ago
I got mine, used it once in the cold -4 and the switch stopped working, never to work again… Its now enjoying its new life in the Bin!!!! If you buy cheap, you buy twice!! RUBBISH wouldnt EVER buy another one. BUT if you like the idea of being stuck in the middle of the woods in the pitch black with no other light, then yeah get one!!Posted 8 years agomajkMember
Got the DX bike light, and I'm helmet mounting it with a couple of zip ties. Seems pretty good, yet to use it in anger though.
One question – I can't find the batery packs on the DX website to buy separately. Are they available, or if not how you should build up one from the loose batteries they sell?Posted 8 years agoThe FopsterMember
Use two torches – one on bars one on helmet. Can't think of a cheaper way of getting so much light, and no reliability issues with mine. Shipping was a little slow but not as bad as many seem to have experienced. Overall I am very happy – can't afford the big name lights and have got same performance at price I could afford.Posted 8 years ago
Bigface0_0 – Member
I got mine, used it once in the cold -4 and the switch stopped working, never to work again… Its now enjoying its new life in the Bin!!!!
Unlucky, I've had 2 myself since last winter (seen two winters use now), and they all work fine. Have 10 others we bought for different riders and they all still work fine too after 2 years… so don't give us this by cheap buy twice rubbish.Posted 8 years ago
If you actually bother to invesigate you'd have found they dead easy to dis-assemble and fix any minor issues.
Whats the point, its only money… Got a nice new set of hope vision 2 and 4's now!!!
Umm that's exactly the point isn't it.. ppl are buying these torches because there cheaper than the 'proper' bike lights.Posted 8 years ago
Yes a Hope Vision 4 is ace, but at 4/5 times the cost of a DX torch, without being 4/5 times better.
I used the 5 mode one, I did say its rubbish but in fact the beams not to bad I guess. like I said the thing that put me off was it just stoppped working in the middle of no where and I rode back to the car in the pitch black. For me a was really hoping this was going to be a great buy and for some people it is. But once your put off something theirs no going backPosted 8 years ago
Bigface0_0…just out of curiosity, try disassembling & reassembling the tail cap. (A pair of scissors in the two holes & unscrew – all comes apart easy enough). I always carried a back-up, but as you say, being plunged into darkness in the middle of nowhere is verging on dangerous at the least.Posted 8 years ago
If you've still got it I'd be happy to take a look at it.pypdjlSubscriber
They're just torches, only they actually have worse functionality than these torches because the batteries aren't easily replacable. They have nice mounts but that's it. Yet people happily spend a packet on them. It's bizarre tbh.
It's hardly bizarre, a decent helmet mount, light weight and a much longer burn time would explain it. People spend vast amounts on drivetrain components that are near enough identical other than weight, a couple of hundred quid on some decent lights seems reasonable.Posted 8 years agojoemarshallMember
It's hardly bizarre, a decent helmet mount, light weight and a much longer burn time would explain it.
Two out of three isn't bad. The diablo actually has the same burn time as the P7 torch (not surprising given it is using very similar technology in a very similar package).
JoePosted 8 years ago
"It's hardly bizarre, a decent helmet mount, light weight and a much longer burn time would explain it. People spend vast amounts on drivetrain components that are near enough identical other than weight, a couple of hundred quid on some decent lights seems reasonable. "
Cobblers frankly. The Diablo IS just a P7 torch in a different shell, it has the exact same burn time as an equivalent DX torch, except that you can't change the battery so it's much less useful. It's also heavier, not lighter.
The Joystick can manage better burn times due to putting out massively less light. But a 5-mode P7 torch can beat it on both burn time and output in the middle settings.
The mounting is nice. But you can fit a DX torch into a Joystick mount 😉 Or, you can use something like my Patented Red Postie Rubber Bands mount, which is a wee bit more stable than the joystick mount and lighter, and more adaptable. (I'll just not mention the part where it's miles harder to fit it well than a Joystick 😉 Ooops!)Posted 8 years ago
Bigface0_0 – Member
"I got mine, used it once in the cold -4 and the switch stopped working, never to work again… Its now enjoying its new life in the Bin!!!"
Why on earth would you throw it in the bin, they come with a full warranty 😛 Mine have a good few hundred hours of use now and still both absolutely good as new, even the one I dropped down 3 flights of stone steps and the one that I smacked into a tree at glentress
"like I said the thing that put me off was it just stoppped working in the middle of no where and I rode back to the car in the pitch black."
Any light can fail, so going out with only one is a bit daft, even the very best won't do much lighting if you manage to bang them off a rock or rip out a cable. But even if they were as unreliable as you say- they're not- you could buy 3 for the price of your Vision 2, never mind the Hope 4. Fit 2, if one fails you still have more light than the Hope one can manage, and a spare when you get home!
of course, any one of these lights is better in use than a Hope 2 never mind 2, despite being 1/3rd the price and having twice the burn time (for the P7 bikelight)Posted 8 years ago
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