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  • 9 months in a row of Mud
  • grannyjone
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    I’ve been thinking, that there has now been 9 months in a row of full-on mud. It started with very heavy rain in the 2nd half of July, turning the trails into Winter-like conditions. The rest of the Summer and Autumn saw heavy rain never giving the trails a chance to dry out, with the exception of about 2 or 3 days. Then November – March as usual were full-on mud. April so far has seen heavy rain and has just been as bad for the mud.

    I’ve been mountain biking regularly for a few years and have never known 9 months in a row of full-on mud, the trails have been in winter-like conditions for 9+ consecutive months (with potentially more to come)! Usually I would expect them to be this bad for about 4-5 months!

    I have managed to get away from it, with a few holidays abroad, so I haven’t had to put up with it all the time, but still I’m tired of waiting for it to improve in England/Wales.

    daern
    Free Member

    Trail centres.

    You might not like them as much as the open tracks (I know I don’t) but at the moment, I’d do anything to avoid mud.

    r8jimbob88
    Free Member

    I walk through a park everyday on the way to work. There’s a puddle in the corner of a field that hasn’t dried out once since 2nd July last year. Occasionally the puddle more closely resembles a lake.

    Last year between March – June it was bone dry and dusty. Next weeks forecast does look promising though.

    grannyjone
    Free Member

    Last year between March – June it was bone dry and dusty. Next weeks forecast does look promising though.

    Also in 2015 and 2016 it didn’t get that muddy until November. In 2017 it reached that level of mud in mid July and kept it up right until now with almost no break.

    RobinL
    Full Member

    I’m not sure we’ve had 9 months of mud but we’re coming up to 6 months and it’s showing no signs of drying out.

    In previous years we’ve generally had spell of drier weather during the winter which has allowed a temporary respite but not this year.

    I’m losing the battle to stay motivated this year and can’t be bothered to ride if there’s any rain.

    grannyjone
    Free Member

    Trail centres.

    You might not like them as much as the open tracks (I know I don’t) but at the moment, I’d do anything to avoid mud.

    I’ve been hitting the trail centres more than ever in the last 9 months. But even Gisburn is full of puddles,and Cannock from what I’ve heard, has a particularly destructive type of mud (or sand?) that can destroy a drive-train in no time? Penmachno is apparently a continuous puddle, so you can’t even get away with it at all the Trail Centres, even though some other ones I’ve not mentioned stand up to the water a lot better.

    hooli
    Full Member

    I walk through a park everyday on the way to work. There’s a puddle in the corner of a field that hasn’t dried out once since 2nd July last year. Occasionally the puddle more closely resembles a lake.

    My local park is similar, pretty much only usable with boots or wellies on now. It hasn’t been this bad since the floods in 2003 odd. To ride the local trails you need a wetsuit, goggles and a snorkel.

    chakaping
    Full Member

    Fake news.

    We did have a couple of weeks of snow and frozen dirt a month or two ago.

    daern
    Free Member

    I’ve been hitting the trail centres more than ever in the last 9 months. But even Gisburn is full of puddles, Cannock (from what I’ve heard) can destroy a drive-train in no time, and Penmachno is apparently a continuous puddle, so you can’t even get away with it at all the Trail Centres, even though some other ones I’ve not mentioned stand up to the water a lot better.

    I think that Gisburn is probably one of the worst with some sections that completely flood after rain. Dalby tends to be less bad than Gisburn in the wet. We’ve just come back from Dumfries & Galloway and the 5 main trail centres there were all firm and dry with only occasional puddles. After a week of riding, the bikes still didn’t need a proper wash 🙂

    FWIW, I’ve mostly ridden road this winter and the mountain bike has been a bit neglected. You still get wet and filthy, but not to the same extent and it’s not quite as soul destroying to clean up afterwards.

    jekkyl
    Full Member

    Cannock won’t destroy your drive train!

    Tis my local and yes I am absolutely **** sick fed up of the **** mud. I have been over Cannock a lot more this year, virtually every week, sometimes twice a week. 2 days of no rain and the trails are mostly bone dry and remain hard pack. Which is more than can be said of the off piste or anything more local away from the fire roads.

    grannyjone
    Free Member

    I found the snow even more unsuitable for biking than the mud, I did one ride in March where I counted myself dismounting from the bike and pushing more than 10 times due to unrideable snow, another ride in late Feb where I turned back after 2 km due to a snow drift covering the route.

    rone
    Full Member

    Completely agree with OP.

    I’ve been almost defeated this season(s).

    Been picking my days. Constant cleaning.

    grannyjone
    Free Member

    Cannock won’t destroy your drive train!

    Tis my local and yes I am absolutely **** sick fed up of the **** mud. I have been over Cannock a lot more this year, virtually every week, sometimes twice a week. 2 days of no rain and the trails are mostly bone dry and remain hard pack. Which is more than can be said of the off piste or anything more local away from the fire roads.

    Cannock from what I’ve heard, has a particularly destructive type of mud (or sand?) that can destroy a drive-train in no time? I’m not sure though if people are referring to the Monkey Trail or the off piste stuff ?

    dmw536
    Free Member

    Agreed. Although I rode up at Antur Stiniog on Sunday and the rocky steep trails were bone dry save for one enormous puddle (like a pond) on one flat section!

    Saw 2 guys had ‘ridden’ the new more natural mud trail and it didnt look like it had gone well at all! Total slop fest.

    Bring on summer!

    grannyjone
    Free Member

    Although I rode up at Antur Stiniog on Sunday and the rocky steep trails were bone dry save for one enormous puddle (like a pond) on one flat section!

    Antur Stiniog seems to never get that muddy apart from one trail (Bendy G) which is sloppy as hell. I only had a go on it once and it didn’t go well at all.

    AS can get dangerously slippy it gets when it rains. Especially on some of the slate sections on Black Powder.

    northerntom
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    Completely agree. I remember when it started raining, and down in the SW it was actually the first week of July, and since then it has been very regular. The snow then added to this and the ground is completely saturated, meaning puddles are forming and wearing away surfaces much quicker.

    I rode some natural stuff near Afan on Sunday and has held up well, mainly though because it’s steep and rocky, so it drains well. However, Staunton two weeks before was awful.

    Bearing in mind we’re less than 3 months away from July, I’m hoping we don’t have another wet second half of our summer.

    peekay
    Full Member

    The up side to all this water is that the ground is very soft which makes it ideal for fresh digging,  rebuilding trails and improving lines.

    Spending an afternoon in a rainy forest isn’t quite as good as riding in the dry,  but it is better than sitting inside and scowling out of the window.

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Only really noticed it being awful from January onwards in the Dales.

    Looking back at photos I’ve taken show plenty of dry, sunny days in the tail-end of last year.

    Christmas Day, for example.

    zippykona
    Full Member

    It dried out here on Saturday. Slop again now.

    grannyjone
    Free Member

    It looks like the Dales can handle water well, that picture looks completely different to (for example) what the state of the South Pennines and Bike would look like in December!

    bigdean
    Free Member

    We been talking about this at home and think its rained nearly everyday since christmas in one way or another (couldn’t find anywhere to get the data though). The multi user paths near me are the worst, the bike just gets covered in the 1.5mile stretch of path. With lighter mornings and nights the off road motor bikes are now about in the woods more oftern and making a right mess.

    jekkyl
    Full Member

    We need it to dry up so we can take advantage of that annual window between spring and summer where the muddy trails become dry and before the nettles and undergrowth close everything in/off. There are lots of trails that become virtually impassable after july.

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Parts of that loop have been a total slopfest since January, it was more just to show that better conditions haven’t been completely absent since last summer.

    chakaping
    Full Member

    If you want to catch the dry conditions you have to ride more often, like three times a week or so.

    Now it’s spring the vegetation is sucking water out of the ground and combined with a bit of windy weather recently I had a lovely dry(ish) ride up Rivington the other week.

    grannyjone
    Free Member

    With lighter mornings and nights the off road motor bikes are now about in the woods more oftern and making a right mess.

    Same at Lee Quarry the MX were here in full force on Sunday making a right mess as usual

    faustus
    Full Member

    Does depend where you are of course, the south and east of UK has had lower than average rainfall in 2017 and I was lucky enough to have dry conditions until early November. Now we’ve had more than average in March and early April, the Soil Moisture Deficit (SMD) is less than 1mm – i.e. saturated. Everywhere off road is pretty grim and not drying out just yet. Good for water resources, bad for biking.

    grannyjone
    Free Member

    Dont know about the rest of the UK but North West England certainly has had 9 months of mud, apart from certain trails which handle water particularly well (e.g. Garburn Pass).

    The extremely  wet weather from July to October and equally wet start to Spring being blamed for “extending” the mud season

    molgrips
    Free Member

    I’ve been mountain biking regularly for a few years and have never known 9 months in a row of full-on mud

    I’ve been MTBing for about 25 years.  You weren’t there for the year without a summer in I think it was 2007.  The Atlantic storms started rolling in in November 2006 and kept going for 18 months.  That was grim.

    I’m replanning my local routes to stick to fire-roads and gravel.

    n0b0dy0ftheg0at
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    If it wasnt for Zwift, you could count the number of proper road  rides I’ve had outdoors on one hand since January, mainly thanks to Beast From The East and some rain… And an ongoing third bout of not so good health (flu since Sunday).

    scruff
    Free Member

    This time of year is normally the best, dry and no overgrowth .

    This year totally sucks, I remember the none summer when it rained every nightride during August but this is worse I can remember for mud and lack of motivation.

    And Cannock Chase soil is very acidic, so the sand will grind bits and the acid dissolves them as well. Rumour has it so many Fox forks were being returned locally Fox and Mojo did testing locally and ended up changing the seal type used.

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    Nah. Nice Autumn sequed into a long, cold, snowy, frozen winter with some amazing trail conditions. Melt has been slow and steady and as a result the well-draining soils haven’t been overwhelmed.

    Supposedly up to 20c here next week. Trails are in ace condition.

    bgascoyne
    Free Member

    Agree!! Totally sick of the mud now!! The constant rain for the last 3 weeks has made it even worse….bogs and puddles everywhere. I remember last year riding at the same time and thinking that it was time to start using my “good bike” as it was so dry! No chance of that this year. Its a mess.

    dumbbot
    Free Member

    It was strange out last weekend, although milder the landscape was still showing no signs of spring,…still feels like winter here, count me in as feeling well tired of the slop now.

    RicB
    Full Member

    Yes it’s not quite as bad as 2007 but it’s been generally terrible. I can’t even remember a nice, crisp winters day this year.

    But now the plans are starting to drink I reckon 2 weeks of no rain and it’ll be mostly dry everywhere. It was almost drying out in Yorkshire a couple of weeks ago but then we had more snow and then rain.

    Wonder what effect it’s having on the bike industry? Can’t see many riders being motivated to buy a shiny new Mtb but spares/servicing sales are probably going well

    IdleJon
    Free Member

    If you want to catch the dry conditions you have to ride more often, like three times a week or so.

    Now it’s spring the vegetation is sucking water out of the ground and combined with a bit of windy weather recently I had a lovely dry(ish) ride up Rivington the other week.

    It’s a little early for that. We were commenting last Thursday that only a few buds have appeared on the trees down here in Swansea. Leaves are likely to appear over the next fortnight or so. (It’s the trees that suck the ground dry, not the daffodils, although tbf the trees will be starting already even without leaves. 🙂 ) And I assume that you’re further north so spring is a week or two later than down here.

    And as to the original point – this is something that’s come up in a few conversations lately. Without having any snow on the ground, and very little ground freezing, we’ve had over six months of wet slop. Massive standing puddles in local parks and the ground is so soft that even with riding 3 times a week all year I still feel unfit.

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    2 options*.

    Move abroad, or take up a pub sport.

    *optional bonus option is to man up and stop whining like a dailymailer.

    thisisnotaspoon
    Free Member

    I quite enjoy muddy night rides, they make it feel like winter.

    Muddy daytime rides I don’t usually bother with though.

    Having said that, it has definitely dried out at times round here over the winter, it’s not all been bad.

    grannyjone
    Free Member

    This Spring reminds me of 2013 and 2016 which both had a cold and freezing March followed by a wet and sometimes cold April and the biking season only getting going properly from May

    Trimix
    Free Member

    Trail centres and Area 51, that’s pretty much all I’ve managed.  One almost dry ride in the FoD.  Hate riding on the road, but I hate Turbo’s more, so that’s all I’ve managed to try to keep fit.

    medoramas
    Free Member

    I think the Mudhuggers have grown into the frame/fork on my bike already…

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