- 4 day week, or is it hmmmm?
I’ve been told and given a letter to confirm, that from next week, I along with everyone else will be going down to a 4 day week at work.
They’re expecting a loss next quarter and this is how they plan to cover it.
It is a fairly small, family owned business, that has the boss, underboss (who is practically family) and 3 full-time staff members who are all family and then the rest of us. There are two departments, on the same site, you guessed it, where the boss and founding father both live. Anyway.
Essentailly we’re all meant to be going on to a 4 day week, now obviously the bosses and those with family ties are likely, given the situation feel obliged to actually continue to work a 5 day week for 4 days pay. And some who have bigger responsibilty and bigger salaries are also likely to feel the need to see it through.
That however leaves a small minority of us who are on very average salaries, with no family ties.
I’ve now been asked, because everyone else upstairs is prepared to work 5 days for 4 days pay, if I would consider doing the same, and it would be a benefit to me?
Nowhere in the letter does it menton any of this!
It was put to me as what are you thinking of doing? By my project manager, not the bosses, who seem willing to let the lackey do their dirty work.
I owe this company nothing at all, I’m underpaid, unapreciated and for very little or no reward.
Of course when I turn round to them on Monday and tell them that I have signed up for a 4 day week, so that is what I shall be doing, it would seem I’m going to be even more of an outcast than I already am.
If the letter had said we want you to take a pay cut for the forseeable future for your five day week, at least it would have been pretty cut and dried!!
It’s not all bad there, it has its advantages – easy to get to, being the main one.
But I don’t ever recall working for nothing before, perhaps they’ve registered as a bleeding charity!!
Any thoughts?Posted 10 years agostAn-Bad Brains MBCMember
don’t do it – couple of things to consider
working 5 days for 4 days pay = 20% pay cut
if theres enough work for 5 days they should pay for 5 days. (eg.my sons firm are on a 4 day week to make the work last longer not just as a cost cutter)
if they put it in writing and are asking you to sign it becomes contractual, therefore,working 4 days is all thats required and legally they can’t touch you for not working 5. But be careful of other spurious ways to get at you at work – just ensure you are on time, don’t take to longon breaks and do exactly whats expected of you and they’ll find it hard to have a go.
Also, if people are willing to work 5 days for 4 days pay what incentive is there for the company to go back to paying 5 days.
People who work for nothing are mugs – unfortunately it’s a lot more common than you think – office workers just hanging back 15mns to finish off etc. People working in call centres been told to make sure there pc is up and running before their shift starts (it only takes 5-10mins but it’s your 5-10mins),site workers clearing away – all unpaid overtime. You work to live not live to work (i hope) so if its not paid don’t play!
join a union, get your colleagues to join, organise, get better T&C’s , it’s your job – look after it.Posted 10 years ago
Up the workers!nickjbMember
That’s what happened at Reinishaw. All went to a 4 day week but those that were willing to do 5 days work for 4 days pay were told they would be looked on favourably when the inevitable redundancies came around.
Is it a good job, what do you thing will be happening in a years time?Posted 10 years agoZulu-ElevenMember
Brass neck it and act as if you thought they were on a wind up!
“yeah, good try boss”
“yeah yeah, Born yesterday I was”
and even when they try to explain they mean it – act as if they’re still on a wind up.
“come on, give it up, I’m still not falling for it, nice one mind”
and then when it finally does come clear – you’ve got the defence that no-one could seriously believe that they meant it, you thought it was just a wind up by the bossPosted 10 years agosturmeyMember
Same happened to us recently 20% pay cut for salaried staff (me).Hourly paid 20% pay cut but 50% work one week the other 50% next week effectivly they work week about but get paid every week less the20%. salaried staff though expected to work as normal which is 48 hours a week although the contract I have is for 38 hours. I do get paid over time after 48 hours. I find it very difficult to take the unpaid day (20%) off without thinking the knives will be out while i’m not there. Iam the only person considering doing it.Posted 10 years agotakisawa2Subscriber
We’ve been on a 4-day week for a couple of months now. Amounts to 16% pay cut. Company of some 300 employees. Told at the outset that certain “essential” staff would not be affected. As of late some 130 or so “essential” staff have been working Friday’s. Needless to say the majority are managers & marketing staff. The line was that they would be effectively spending Friday’s drumming up new business, but we’ve not seen any yet.
Would like to say there is an upside to the situation (more riding time etc) but the reality is different. Fridays are usually spent getting under the wifes feet. Luckily the low mortgage rate is offsetting the pay cut, but if the mortgage rate goes up a lot of people will suffer, me included.
Its a profit making organisation at the end of the day mate, & that profit is not for your pocket so tell them to **** off.Posted 10 years agowhite101Subscriber
I work for a very large German company who took over my very large UK based multinational almost 3 years ago. Because one of our divisions had a weak 1st quarter the company decided that some of us would be made redundant and others would be asked to take unpaid leave (ranging from 10-30 days). It was made clear that this was being done to maintain the profit margins that the CEO had promised to the major shareholders (3 german banks). Not everyone has to take the unpaid leave and its not clear if the top guys will be doing it, but the whole thing boils my p!ss
I’m ahead of target, as are most of my sales colleagues, yet it seems to me the German side of the business are taking the opportunity to cut the business down to bare bones.None of this is happening anywhere else around the global business, just the UK.
When I voiced my concerns to my line manager he said “if you dont you might be out”Posted 10 years agokonabunnyMember
“I’ve been offered a mountain bike job on Fridays (so no possible conflict of interest with current job) to make up the shortfall. I believe in the company and would love to make a commitment but understand that its cashflow situation means that it needs to reduce its immediate costs. Perhaps you could pay me in shares?”
If they’re being genuine, this is reasonable. If they’re not, **** em.
Can you look around for another job as backup?Posted 10 years ago
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