Where are you getting an M30 at that price?
I’m 173cm on a medium Laufey which feels great but pretty tempted to get a large Occam. Hoping to demo one from Pedals when the lockdown eases a bit

Hello! 179 and I’m a L. Igor is 176 and definitely a M. I tried the M and found it impossible. You can choose which dropper if you want and the OC one is brilliant. At 173 I’m sure you are a M. Drop me a mail and I’m happy to spend time talking about sizing I’d it helps. If you can try it’s definitely the way forward. Great bike IMHO.

thanks Andy. Glad it helped. I´m going to update the article because the most common questions I¨m getting are around sizing and 34 vs 36. Also I´ve just got the 2020 Rallon and loads of people are asking me about the difference between the two bikes. I´ll get it done… When the sun stops shining so much!

Jeff Kendall-Weed has been having a lot of fun on the back wheel of one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8av86gBVBtE

Not necessarily much help to you but I’m 6’4″ and on an XL M10. Fits perfect, Came from a 27.5″ Banshee Spitfire also in XL and the Occam is a bit longer (I’m running a 50mm stem on the Occam, had a 60mm on the Banshee), but doesn’t feel massively different in terms of fit.I did consider putting an extra 10mm on the stem but I switched the stock 780mm bars out for my 800mm OneUp bars and that feels just right.

Long story short, unless you are very oddly proportioned I’d say the L is where you are at.  I would get the 170mm cranks though if you can, I’ve got them on mine under advice from the shop and still get more pedal strikes than the Banshee, the BB is pretty low.

Hi Doug,
My current frame is :-
Reach – 409mm
Stack – 577mm
ETT – 587mm
Seat tube – 381mm
Chainstay – 426mm
The bike is too small for me now, as you will see from the numbers & an XL Occam maybe too big of a jump up from what I have been used to for a good few years.
Been locked away at home for a long time, but have to do some travelling with work middle of next week – so i’m hoping I might be able to get to an orbea dealer somewhere on my journey.

Not traveling anywhere near north Spain I suppose?

I wish!

Thanks for your help – I appreciate that eveyone is different & nothing beats actually getting on the bikes to see for yourself.

More thread resurrection here while i’m reading.

As some of you will have seen i’ve recently bought a Bird Aether 7…. Which i’m slightly (maybe more than slightly) struggling with at times. One of these has come up locally for £1100 and barely used in a LArge (sizes up a little small as we know from here and others). I’m at 6’0 which is within their realms of fine on a large.

Overall though on the carpark/driveway test it rode really nicely and was poppy and playful which massively appeals. Compared to the more straight liner feel of the Aether7.

For the price and the condition it’s in, i’m very much erring towards getting the Occam AM.

Thanks Davros.

https://www.cyclesolutions.co.uk/bikes/mountain-bikes/orbea-occam-am-h30-2019-full-suspension-mtb-bike–turquoiseblack__34843

This one is a 19. Which makes it 27.5 which i prefer over 29er which seems to be the later ones.

Oh forgot to add. I [still] find it very difficult to get my weight forward properly all the time. Have to make real effort to pull forward.

If I’m tired and on tricky stuff I often end up way back on the bike losing control as the front end drifts. Had a couple of offs doing this.

Of course none of this is the bike’s fault, it’s because I am shite, but I seem to recall you having similar issues on your Aether, so it may not suit you?

Of course none of this is the bike’s fault, it’s because I am shite, but I seem to recall you having similar issues on your Aether, so it may not suit you?

It’s so different to the Bird, you’re already way more forward than on the Bird.

Thanks tails

I have this bookmarked, the leverage curve of the 2020 model, but it also includes the 2019 so may be of interest to compare. I don’t remember seeing one for the Aether 7 (35% rising rate) but it’s probably similar to the Aether 9 one (30% rising rate).

It’s so different to the Bird, you’re already way more forward than on the Bird.

Numbers of interest – in size large, the 7’s front centre is 1.91x (about as extreme as it gets) longer than the rear, compared to 1.76 (pretty normal) for the Occam AM.

According to geometry geeks it is 2cm higher BB than the Aether7 so shouldn’t get strikes compared to the Bird at least

I see 17mm difference. At sag, maybe 5mm less due to extra sag impact of having 15mm more travel? When your pedals on a sagged bike stood vertical are only 11.5cm off the ground (Aether 7), it’s a chunk extra.