Got a Croix de fer 30 on order, was due 21/12/14. That date has now gone back until the 18/1/15. Not sure if this date is valid for all pre orders but I did get my order in reasonably early. So check with your LBS if you have one on order.

As for value, getting mine at trade price and on the bike to work scheme, so that’s about £700

great write up,glad you love your new bike pp 🙂

tbh i would love to get one for myself (just lacking the funds tbh).

although there is a newish bike shop where i live that stocks genesis bikes (along with scott santa cruz e.t.c/really sucks when you are poor 😉

i would go for the bike you bought if i had the money as i love the look of it.

Heres my new bike all built up, few tweaks to make, bars dropped a bit and see where we go from there. I’ve had a few rides now and its very nice indeed 😀

[url=https://flic.kr/p/qH4Lnr]SAM_0842[/url] by philipdixon36, on Flickr

Hows everybody finding the conti cyclocross speed tyres? I fancy some offroad tyres to get out and do some exploring now, but still want some sort of speed on the tarmac. Wiggle reviews have them as excellent,CRC have them as crap, too many punctures. So, whats the verdict here then, or is there something else worth having a nosey at?

Thanks ianc, they do look like just the kind of thing I’m after, I think I’ll give them a whirl.

yes please don, my email is in profile, let me know how your pp address

Mine have been replaced I just need to go and pick it up tomorrow. As for the tyres I think the two reviews are two different types, one is the folding version and the other the standard. I’m sure it was the folding version that was horrendous for getting flats.

On the tyre front, do people notice a difference off road between a slick(ish) tyre and a lightly treaded one

They’ll both be useful when its muddy, but on a dry track what’s the difference? I suppose when it’s wet there’ll be a small difference

My cross bike had WTB Nano 40Cs but it’s currently running 32c marathon plus tyres, so have gone from small amount of tread to almost no tread

I would say almost certainly yes.

I run 40mm marathon supremes that come up just a tiny bit over measured with callipers. I have around 5/6 mm of clearance between the tyre and seat / chain stays. The closest bit is the swing arm on the front mech – this can get pretty darn close to the tyre (~2 mm or so) but never rubs. Could always file a bit off or just run a single ring.

oh mine is the Croix 30 with carbon fork. around the same clearance between tyre and inside blade of the fork. I am not sure how wide the clearance will be on the steel fork of the Croix 10 or 20 mind you.

from here:

http://www.einsteincycles.com/blog/what-we-like-wednesday-surly-knard-700×41

“The tire comes in a 27tpi and 120tpi, with the latter serving as the tubeless option, depending on your rims. While the tire is a 41mm, the width of your rim will influence the actual diameter of the tire mounted. We measure the tire at 37mm on a more narrow road rim, and 42mm on a wider road rim, and 43mm on a 29er rim”

I doubt you would be able to run guards or anything but if the 42mm is correct, you will have space for it.

I guess you did that as part of a bleed process ? Sounds a good result !

I’ve not yet investigated how to get into the reservoir to bleed them !

many thanks, will have a pop at that, cheers

You do like to moan about drops pp don’t you! See I am the opposite, I find touring on flats horrendous. Each to their own 😉

But agree the stock contis are plop. I punctured twice on my very first ride. Week later swapped to marathon supremes and not a single puncture in 2000 miles. Damn….. Done it now haven’t I!

I’m sure I’m massively missing the point here, but I feel compelled to ask (PP and other touring afficionados): When you’re loaded up like that, isn’t it incredibly slow? Where do you go?

I think I would lose patience after half a mile, ditch the trailer and return home for some lycra and a road bike (and then pay for a B&B).

Superficial…. YEAH tis very slow. Heavy and hard work. But it’s combining two of the things I love the most, camping outdoors and cycling. It’s the freedom to go where you want, do what you want and once unloaded and camp set up, explore.

Oh and iain, meant to send this to you yesterday…. If you not seen it, here is the user manual for the sti levers regarding bleed and resevoir:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=CJtVVbq0EsrC7Abu3YCIAw&url=http://si.shimano.com/php/download.php%3Ffile%3Dpdf/dm/DM-BR0008-00-ENG.pdf&ved=0CB8QFjAB&usg=AFQjCNGkMm1XtYBlmZNIRTKI6TjkEYLutg

Based almost entirely on this thread I have just gone out and bought a CdF 10, just got it back to the office. The sun is shining, and there’s only an hour and a half to go til I can ride it home along the river! Can’t wait!

Mr Poddy, thats living the dream son 😀

Croix De Fer in natural habitat :

I’ve the CDF10 (2016 version) and it’s fine for that use, you might have your work cut out on the club rides though 😛

Drape a towel over the top tube plus make sure you wipe it down afterwards and you’ll be fine.

Yeah I love mine (2015 cdf20) as a winter road bike. I presume you’ll use a spare wheel on the turbo – although the stock tyres are reasonably slick in the centre I think they’d be annoying.

As above, you’ll find keeping up on club runs that bit harder but you’ll be grateful of the extra speed come summer.