Hi guys,
Been a while since I've posted on here. Not been able to get out on my MTB since my entry to #teamdad a couple weeks ago. (and it's a boy, so he'll be raised right! ;))
I'd been toying with the idea of a Zwift set up when this post was first created, now I'm sure I'm going to have to.
I have a TV and Mac Mini in the right location. I'm short a bike / and smart trainer.
- What's the best value trainer with all the important features (I can get a perk deal through work for 10% off the price on the TACX T2240 from halfords) (sub 200 would be good)
- I quite like the idea of using a retro/vintage road bike (I'd never been seen dead on it outside the house..) - Is that a bad idea? (Budget < 100 quid)
For the love of jeez that nearly killed me.
Wbr 4 lap let neon classique.
Jumped off the line nicely and held with the AB group with ease, right until the kick at horse guards, then boom, 5.5 everywhere, well apart from me! Got dropped and from then in it was a solo 1.5 laps, pushing hard and holding the 4 guys behind me at 50s. Peak of 1:03 and they pulled back to 43s at one stage.
I then caught a B and we worked well for a bit, sharing turns on the front, he was towing me on incline, I was dragging him along on flats. I think I spent more time on front overall.
The group pulled me back to about 20s with a late push, but I wasn't giving up, put my head down with 1.5km to go and just held 3.5 to the line, not sure if they closed at all, but I think it was a decent gap.
Sadly there was a C in the main group ahead of AB but I'm wondering if he'll get DQ
Average hr of 171! That was tough!
That was OK I thought, especially compared to my last few races. Stayed with them until the end, but had no sprint in me. I'll get them next time.
I don't like that only your race group (A, B, C....) shows on the timing screen. It'd be better if it went back to showing everyone in the race regardless of their Cat.
Yes it was weird seeing the B on screen but not on list, so I couldn't see when he was sitting in and when he was pushing on etc.
Yeah i did the EVR race this morning (50km) and it took me a while to realise that it was now only showing my category. Sadly for me i thought i was ripping the field apart when i saw no cat a riders till i twigged. Tough race this morning, some rather quick cat b riders but i ended up 4th and avg 278w over 50km is probably one of my best efforts. I really wish i could find a reasonably (that means cheap) priced bluetooth HR monitor, found a few but they dont get good reviews and i have no idea if they are compatible with zwift.
Jumped in on the kiss second base race, got caught napping at the start as I was messing around with settings and there they were you see, gone.
Just did the KISS second base too. This warm up lap business is confusing?! It's says it's going to be 3 laps but then there's a warm up before the 3 laps start. Not sure what you're supposed to do on the warm up so I just treated it as a 4 lap race! Did a lot better than last time. Managed to catch a few wheels and had a cracking sprint battle at the end which I managed to hold the guy off. Think I might have just sneaked 3rd after DQs with bang on the 2.4w/kg limit.
Warm-up lap is bullshit. Made that mistake first London race I did. Lap 1 is to the mall banner and then 2 laps after that.
Just did my first race and feeling like crap now-seem to have left my hamstrings in another dimension! I caught everyone napping at the start and found myself in the lead for all of about 50yards before I realise I'd gone off too hard. 1 good lap followed by 3 bad ones as I turned my legs into knots. Can I view the leaderboard after I've quit out?
Thanks, can see the race and the riders that were around my but my result isn't showing 🙁
Can sometimes take a while, or look near the bottom on the, you see a little down arrow, try that.
Which race?
WBR 4 Lap Flat RACE at 8:30pm. Didn't realise I needed a ZwiftPower account so have just created that and linked to Strava. Hopefully I can now get it to update with my data.
Zwiftpower account, what exactly is that?
I've not got one for sure! 😀
Poopscoop - MemberZwiftpower account, what exactly is that?
I've not got one for sure!
Ah.... I see now. Im gradually getting there!
shame the organisation of race results hasnt improved since march...
Just did KISS 2 laps box hill race couldn't hang with the bunch on the flat never mind on the hill.. Over 100 riders in C. Have KISS got there act together since Spring regarding finalising results?
Well i'm a little confused now.
As well as emailing Wahoo recently i pinged off a mail to Wiggle, who have now arranged to collect the Kickr Snap tomorrow. Whether that's for replacement or repair, i'm a little vague as they've not replied since, just arranged the courier to collect.
So as of tomorrow i'm turboless ! EEeeeeek.
Lets hope it's not for a long time !
Have KISS got there act together since Spring regarding finalising results?
nope, still not finalised from sunday, i've still got a UPG as its not picked up my weight properly. remember now why i didn't do many KISS races.
I'm positive there is a reason why the same guy who runs Zwiftpower and KISS doesn't finalise his results quickly.
Nothing to do with undermining the rival CVR rankings system that relies on Zwiftpower to collate results of course 😉
Still quicker than British Cycling 😆
1st race done (that I’ve finished anyway). Did the WBR race at 5:05. Entered category D. Finished 3rd and that’s with dropping the chain 4 times (new chain and cassette sat in the garage) one of which meant I had to stop and untangle it don’t think it would've made any difference to the result as the 2 in front finished around 3-5 minutes ahead of me. They had an ave over 3 w/kg so it’s a moral victory for me 🙂
Quite enjoyed it definitely more fun than just pedalling around for an hour.
Awesome! Well done 🙂
you'll be getting a gold cup soon enough then - assuming you don't also get bumpedThey had an ave over 3 w/kg so it’s a moral victory for me
I was 2.39 w/kg the results paid said their results would stand as that race is configured to allow it or something. It was good for me as it shows I’m a bit off being able to race Cat C so it’s something to aim for. Got to get the chain and cassette replaced before the next one though. Bloody annoying not being able to stand up and power on climbs.
Lots and lots of congratulations!
Race number 2 out the way. Tried the Kiss 10 Mile TT. Much more to my liking - just stick it in a big gear and grind to the finish line! Its honestly the best I've felt in a long time and nice to just be able to turn myself inside out without real world interruptions.
Not sure about the power data - result feels a little optimistic but will see how it compares to data over the next few weeks.
Out on the local roads/lanes today. Wasn't the climbiest route ever, but had a couple of hills to keep my average down a bit, but i managed a respectable 15.1mph for the ride, which i'm more than happy with considering it was a 29er 😆
That is a pretty impressive weeksy.
I did Watopia Hilly this morning but in reverse and i have to say its far easier than the normal way round. Sadly for me though i didnt realise it was reverse so i let the lead bunch get ahead by a few secs thinking the big hill was coming up. Once i realised what was going on i couldnt get back to the bunch, rookie error. Ended up in a good bunch which pulled in a few stragglers and then to make up for my rookie error i planned my attack for the last downhill. Executed it to perfection, used an aero on the downhill to gain a 3 second lead and just poured everything i had in to the last 0.9km and ended up beating the group by 5 seconds to claim 4th.
4th, damn fine work.
Must admit, It was weird being outside and not having power and HR to hand to gauge my efforts. If felt at times harder than Zwift and at times easier than Zwift too. It was a decent 90 min ride though before the rain. Although it was a bit head down and pedal rather than being out and smelling the flowers.
Weeksy - did you find it strange having to use your handlebars to turn?
Lol nah, was fine with that side of things. It's only because Mrs Weeksy was away for 3 weeks I've zwifted constantly, now my Snap is in a DPD van going to Wiggle it's either outside or nothing.
Swinley on Sat and the next couple of Sundays too.
Did a cheeky KISS race this evening on that same 4xhilly reverse. I'm definitely out of my comfort zone up that bad boy 😆
107 starters in B! I managed to hold with the front group until the climb and then some solo guys got away. Still, I eventually crested the rise in the lead chase group.
I happened to review a race of mine on the same course on Strava earlier (couldn't remember my time up that hill) and it was 4.16 on lap one and a few seconds slower each time.
So I knew we were motoring on lap 1 with a 3.58!
I had 'mined' myself an Aero during warmup with a view to trying Blader's tactic but I was in trouble on lap one and used it to close a gap to make sure I held the lead group.
I had a good run of PU's too with two feathers and a draft boost thus giving me one every lap.
Anyway, we held together and gradually caught everyone off the front.
Innovation had a HUGE team who seemed to be bossing things.
Each lap the lead group got whittled down until about 25 remained.
With Innovation looking so strong, I attacked out of the Esses and got a gap down towards the sprint but it was soon closed.
Over the bridge before the final climb and BOOM! Innovation attacked way before the KOM start line. I tried to cling but was spat out by the steepest part.
I spent the rest of the way up tickling my muscles with lactic burn. Pushing then easing then pushing again.
With the KOM banner in sight, I launched an attack and had 60m or so lead on our chase group into the downhill.
Hitting the bottom, the gap was shrinking fast so I just sat at 4-450w and braced myself. 0.7 miles to go or rather just under a lap of Hillingdon 😀
Bob Mcglue was gaining fast so I had to start ramping up. Sadly he had an aero and overtook right on the line!! Gutted!!!!!
Well pleased with 15/107 starters though 🙂
That's mighty impressive for a big guy in B on a hilly route. Were you the best placed at your sort of weight?
Given you a taste for more indoors?
I swapped out a workout for it so I'm actually feeling guilty 😉
There were guys similarish weights to me but more interesting is the w/kg. I finished on 3.4 and everyone around me was higher, 3.7 or more.
That's partly due to being bigger of course but I think also down to efficiency. Like closing gaps for example, I only do just enough to get back into the draft and once it's clear I have the momentum- I stop pedalling momentarily and then try and match the wattage of the group. It's so easy to blow right through when you panic.
All I hear on FB is that it's only a good TT simulator- it's not polarised enough to represent a Crit. But I think that must be becsuse of people choosing to turn down the trainer difficulty and ride at one Cadence.
I think it's very very realistic now- and B Cat is as hard as a 3/4 at Hillingdon.
Lol! Bob McGlue who trounced me in the sprint is a strong 3rd Cat who won one of Nath's early Cat 4's at Hillingdon back in the winter series.
Shows my guess about the kind of level it represents is pretty close too.
Gentle one today of 30km and only about 12ish mph, just wanted a nice little cruise really as i've got Swinley planned tomorrow arvo, so wanted to keep something in the legs for that. Just took things nice and easy. It was tough at one stage as a roadie came past me, i rekon i could have hung with him for at least a little bit if i'd pushed... but would have been properly tough and that wasn't what i wanted for the day.
Nice day, warmish and not too windy.
WBR C’s 3 laps hilly was interesting. 5th on track, might get a gold cup on DQ’s...
No DQ’s based in W/kg on WBR races. First rider under the category limit so I’m taking that as a moral victory. 😉
Well done Jam bo - playing the game nicely at 3.1 there !
I was all set to do the 9.05 WBR this morning. It was listing 4 starters in B (me included) when I looked at 8.30 so I dropped out & went to work early ( 😯 )
Ended up with ONE rider left in B (2 promoted to A and one DQ)
I thought numbers were supposed to be up again after summer
Well done Jam bo!
Scaredypants- you need to enter a proper race 😆
Well done Jam bo - playing the game nicely at 3.1 there !
Wasn’t holding back too much, was a good group of 4 working for two laps of three bit dropped 2 on the last KoM climb, swept up a guy in front of me on the run down from the top and then cruised into the finish solo.
Just did a WBR one flat lap race, 6 miles or so. I was expecting a full-gas smash right from the start but it was more cagey than that; small field but we hardly lost anyone for the first half. A few dropped off about then but pace still not too bad, just a few little surges, gradually increasing in duration though. Then two of us lost a few lengths on the group on the (tiny) climb just before the rolling lumpy section and I didn't have the legs to get back on. Matey pulled a power-up but it was the drafting one and there was nobody* to tow him - like I say, I didn't have it in me and so the lead group got away.
*then I saw my power-up, bloody aero helmet! I could at least have given it a go if I'd realised in time. Used it on the run in and dropped my companion to take a mighty bronze (in a field of 5 Bs 🙄 )
Think I'll do more of those short races though - I reckon they're probably good for learning to recover after a few surges (and part of my (non-existent) master plan for dominating the giffer category in real races next year). I'm no sprinter though; best ever at the end of a race is probably 750w
Crosshair - that sounded like a good race and a massive field so that is a great result. It sounds like there were a lot of fast B riders, your time was 4 mins quicker than mine and i was 4th!
I thought the minimap was a good idea but in practice its pretty useless and it makes seeing the gradient you are on difficult to see. I am still undecided about only seeing my cat in the list as i am sure i have been caught out hanging with cat A riders and then blowing up.
Hey a trophy is a trophy Scaredypants 😉 Well done!
If you ever get a chance, the KISS pursuit race series was good for that. 4x 2km races with 15mins off in between. I only did one but it was brutal!
I wouldn't worry about the size of your sprint wattage, it's all about speed IRL. A sustained 750 will get you a better result than a peak of twice that that fizzles straight out.
Thanks Blader! Team Innovation were drilling the front and with a big group, we did whizz along nicely!! It was staggered starts too- the A's had a 3 minute head start on us.
There's been some banter on FB about Innovation being dodgy and this is my first race since they have been a 'thing'. It did seem like they had a few riders not registered in ZP who were very strong into the final climb but quite why they would game the B category of an online racing game with no prizes, I have no idea!!
Bob Mcglue who beat me in the sprint is legit though:
https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/points?person_id=404032&year=2017&d=4
So perhaps it's just sour grapes by someone?
Well done scaredypants, you best start building a bigger trophy cabinet.
Crosshair - i am certain there are more than a few zwift users doing digital EPO but for what reason i do not know, nothing to gain. There is a user in China (i am guessing by the flag) that as far as i have seen has won every race he has been in and on some occassions will do 2 races in a row, he has put Tim Cartwright in to second a few times. I have no idea who he is or if he is cheating but his record is scarily good but it does make me wonder.
Did my 2nd race this morning. Took part in the WBR 10km 1flat lap and as it was only 1 lap I thought I’d enter as a Cat C.
The eventual winner shot off from the start never to be seen again, so ended up with a group of 3 which I lead around the course pretty much at my current FTP. At the halfway point I was beginning to really feel it but just kept going for as long as I could with the other 2 just sat on my wheel. I was still leading the mini group with 1km to go and at that point realised I was going to be gobbled up. With about 200m to go one guy attacked and I tried to stick with him but just couldn’t match him. Managed to hang on for 3rd place though, so very pleased with that. Not so pleased with nearly knocking myself out as I hit my head on the wall getting off the bike, my legs were jelly (even after a 7 minute warm down). Good fun though, I can see why you’re so addicted Weeksy.
Ah, well you were, err, mugged 😀
(If nobody'll help out, try a bit of surging rather than constant output - that always seems to break me 🙁 )
😀
Yep, you learn fast in this game 😆
Ha ha, brilliant. I'm enjoying all the reports that's for sure.
Not really had much of a chance to miss mine as the weather has been OK so I've been out pedalling.
Meeting a couple of the lads over at swinley forest today at 2.30 but I'm likely to get over a couple of hours before and do a bit on my own. Hopefully the legs will hold out for their ride too.
Cracking ride at Swinley it was. 90 min on my own doing the built/dedicated trails, then another 90 min of doing random stuff over on Crowthorne woods side of things. Great little day out.
Still baffles me when people give Swinley stick, it's just a fantastic place.
A very interesting PRS race tonight. Fast out of the blocks and the pace never really seemed to let up or so my watt reading was suggesting. It got to about 9km in and i was continually pulling around 280-300w which is pretty pacey but i was thinking this seems easy, had i suddenly become a powerhouse with thighs full of watts or had somebody spiked my drink? Anyway i was in the lead group and each lap they all went sprint crazy up the hill to the volcano so i had to pour on lots of watts on each lap to catch up. Last lap we all knew that it would kick off up the hill so braced myself and got in top gear and decided it was full sprint for as long as i could. Into the volcano i was only a second or two behind the leaders so we all grouped up and it turned into an 8 person bunch sprint. Sadly i came in 7th (3.66w/kg avg 304w) but i still had a nagging feeling my thunder thighs were not right. It seems i had a slow puncture thus the resistance must have been reduced which explains why it was a bit easier at large watts and my sprint rubbish due to slipping (ok i cant actually sprint). Anyhow a good workout but i reckon my tyre will be flat by the morning and if not then i am a powerhouse after all.
I can confirm i am not a powerhouse, tyre was flat this morning. For a short while there i thought i had a full sprint in top gear going up a hill in my locker ready to unleash.
I swear Zwift has it in for me when I'm in a rush!
Was supposed to do a group ride at 8:30 this morning, crawled out of bed at 8:15 and was in the garage setup by 8:28. Apart from then at that very moment my heart rate monitor battery died... Rushed upstairs grabbed a new battery. Then noticed my front tyre was flat (damn latex tubes), so pumped that up with a fight. Finally I then joined in the group ride a little late (20 mins lol) but there..
Until everyone turned left and I turned right.. I thought maybe I had to do a lap to catch them up, so head down and did a power lap or 4... Couldn't gain on them, until I saw everyone on the opposite side of the road 😆
It was telling me I was still 21 mins behind though: https://www.strava.com/activities/1198769211
<slightly rueful high-five>I can confirm i am not a powerhouse
😀
Scaredypants - just for a few minutes i considered entering the world champs. Tyre is now sorted so middle aged weakling riding can now resume.
Nathb - zwift knows when you are pressed for time as the only times i have been unable to connect to it is when i have been close to the ride start time.
slightly embarrassed to say that my bronze from the other day has matured into a silver (1 rider upgraded to A)
... and today's 4th overall and 2nd in B has turned to gold (rider who pipped me at the line has been DQ for not wearing a HR monitor (rather than pulling 4.67w/kg 😯 )
small fields; I'm under no illusions
What Division are you guys on CVR? I'm forecast as Div 2 now with 1207 points and ranked 844th.
Division 1 with 1700 points, ranked 105th in division 1 and 248th overall.
Although I did a group ride this morning and it's taken 12 points off me!?
449th in div 2 I think on 1139 points.
Not sure how winning my last race resulted in a -1 score though...
Div 4 caused by my turbo issues, I was a solid mid 3 for a while.
Jam bo- it gives a score for the strength of all the riders present and then divides that up using an algorithm with extra points for top placings and points knocked off for DNF's.
I think A & B get lumped together so it's your relative placing to whoever was racing above you too.
I don't fully understand it even when I read it but I'm sure Nath can elaborate.
(I'm 278th in Div 2 🙂 )
I have 1263 points and in Div 2 and not sure of my rank but i think it is 224.
Niiiice 🙂
I haven't followed it at all but the Auzzie ECrit series, that ran for several months with a live final seemed like a very slick event! Not sure if there's going to be a Northern Hemisphere one?
Even Si Richardson got involved!
Live final show:
My free trial is about to come to an end. I have seen mention of strava premium getting you an extended trial. Is this still the case as I can't see anything on either zwift of strava anymore.
Did the EVR race which was 2 laps of london loop and managed to win cat B GOLD trophy. There were 37 in the field so not big buy not that small either but box hill was still torture. I managed to do 7.02 up box hill on the first lap and that took a long time to recover from and no idea what i did on the second lap but i dont think it was too shabby as i caught a few in front of me. 2 of us were heading in to the last km together and i think the other guy has beaten me in a sprint before so i decided an aero power up and a long sustained watt bomb from 1km was my only hope. So i went for it and he followed but with about 0.4km to go i think he gave up as i had about 4secs on him,cruised over the line in a sweaty mess (avg 300w for the race).
Wow, that's a great result. Well done!
I explained the points system a few pages back, (pages 125&126) googled it 😆
"Doesn't matter if your DCBA cats, each rider brings points to the race, to give a pool of points. You're given a projected place in the entire field based off current points/performance, finish higher then you're awarded further points. Finish lower you lose points. Top 3 finishers get bonus points (otherwise it wouldn't be worth their while)."
Cheers Crosshair. Second lap of box hill was 7.49 which i thought was going to be quicker than that given my thighs were pretty much just flames for most of it.
@blader1611 did it save to strava!? https://www.strava.com/segments/12744502
You're part of the Zwifters group? https://www.strava.com/clubs/STWzwift
Showing as 07.00 for the Zwiftblog verified segment
(His pb is 06.40)
Thanks for the info chaps, 2 seconds quicker than i thought.
Crosshair - that PB time is wrong as it was done in my early days using a dumb trainer so i dont count that. My PB is actually 6.47. Either way i am quite impressed i got that close to it coz my PB was done when i was actually trying (7min box hill challenge) so i got to box hill fresh and not raced to get there.
Top job again!
Still waiting for an update from Wiggle on my Snap. So went for a short one on the 29er, only 45 mins but even with some hills I averaged 16mph. I was more interested though on a few segment how my times compared to the road bike times, they were not bad.
Well after a bit of faffing with Wiggle and the lack of phone number irritating me, i spoke to a few people on live chat and eventually got an email.
"Since your return was requested, stock for the replacement you asked for is unavailable.
We have arranged for a refund to be made to your original payment method, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
ARRRGHHHH that wasn't exactly what i wanted.. I just wanted it replacing/repairing.
I guess the upside is that the new one i've now purchased from Evans, comes with a brand new warranty starting from today. So that's techincally a good point.
As i bought it initially on finance though it could be a bit of a faff to sort out.
I paid for express delivery so if it gets shipped today, the new Snap will arrive tomorrow.
Not time to try a different trainer weeksy? Maybe a flux?
That's my next one I think...
Nah, i'm more than happy with the Snap apart from that minor dropout issue.
I've spent £5.99 on a USB extension just in case it's dropping because of that, so i can have the dongle right next to the unit now. Other than that, i've had no reason to move to something else.
The new model is updated in accuracy to 3% now from 5%, so that's good, along with the new warranty and the fact i've enjoyed riding outdoors, i'm all good.
Weeksy - at least its sorted now, dread to think how long Wiggle would have taken to get it repaired!
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