if I'd had a better start i might of done alright. I hadnt really warmed up and i think I paced it a bit conservatively as it was a long race. I think I was pretty much DFL on the first loop round green park.
i was quite pleased with 8:34 & 8:37
Jesus. You could probably stop and have a picnic half way up and still be quicker than me!
Here's box hill's segment: https://www.strava.com/segments/12744502
Not really tried to get up there at full whack yet, by which I mean target the segment.
[quote=epicsteve ]i was quite pleased with 8:34 & 8:37
Jesus. You could probably stop and have a picnic half way up and still be quicker than me!
i'm still only 12th in the STW Zwifters group...
i'm still only 12th in the STW Zwifters group...
I'm a lowly 27th! I reckon I could have Weeksy if I really tried though...!
That's it I'm done with commuting into London - it's just horrible, not fun and frankly dangerous (skidded on snow trying to avoid a muppet driver, landed on my backside)
Bike cleaned and will be permanently stationed on the turbo. I'm done!
In fact any sort of riding in winter is not fun. Roll on tomo can't wait .....
MTbing can still be fun in winter 🙂
i'm still only 12th in the STW Zwifters group...
There's some proper quick STWers who never actually seem to have posted in this thread.... they fly around there but are completely anonymous !
On the hills, if i have 1 person behind me, i'm usually fairly happy.
MTbing can still be fun in winter
Yep. Doing the school run and then heading onto the moors for some snow.
I'm resting today as at FoD tomorrow 🙂
Are you uplifting Weeksy? Or pedalling the trails?
Live riding For, so much there to get involved with. Have fun!
Trails matey. Got my 8 year old XC whippet coming for a day too along with a couple of buddies and another young'un who's 11. Hoping to do some non trails as well as one of the guys is now a local and seems to know his way around.
Then some coffee and a tonne of cake 🙂
Won't be Zwifting myself this weekend as got some family visiting which means my turbo training room has to go back to being a bedroom. Will probably do the club run on Sunday if the weather is ok.
Looking at the results from that Cat-D race I did I can see that the W/kg limited category does favour the heavier riders (including me). Other than the guy that was 4th (who averaged 2.59W/kg anyway) everyone that finished above me was a fair bit heavier. The closest lighter rider to the top of the leaderboard was a female rider and she had had to average nearly 2.8W/Kg for that. Are the rules different for female riders because she didn't get excluded from the results or even an advisory about upgrading to C - unlike a similar weight male rider who was a couple of places further back and had a lower W/kg reading than her?
hmmm, last race I did, the folk who beat me were very variable weights (watopia fig 8, so a bit hilly but 2 quite long flat sretches as well)
I'm 78kg and they were (1st to 15th):
70kg
75kg
67kg
81kg
75kg
87kg
80kg
89kg
76kg
101kg
75kg
83kg
90kg
73kg
73kg
I tend to find @70kg I get my a** handed to me on flat courses.
Also on hilly courses too as I had realism at 90% which meant the hills felt realistic HOWEVER I get overtaken on the descents (spin out).
Can't win 😆
I've reduced my realism to 60% to counteract the spinning out, but it doesn't feel right...Perhaps I need to move from 50/34 to 52/36!?
[b]Just been shown this: http://zwiftrankings.com/vcr/client/racer/98508/2017r01/flatClimbing/2 [/b]
Riders will only have one opportunity to go above the specified Category limits. This must be within 0.1 or they will be promoted. Any rider who goes above these limits for a second occasion will be DQ.
Please could someone explain what this means?
I tend to find @70kg I get my a** handed to me on flat courses.
At 70kg you are a massive flatland pounding monster compared to some of us!
Perhaps I need to move from 50/34 to 52/36!?
Yes, definitely.
Please could someone explain what this means?
You're going too fast and need to slow down a bit 😉
Or move up a catagory 🙂
In simple terms all the catagories have maximum limits.
0-2.5w/kg
2.5-3.2w/k
3.2-4w/kg
etc etc.
whatever one you select you have 1 chance in it if you exceed the limits.... e.g a 2.6 will see you banned on the 2nd time from racing in D catagory.
Anyone doing the evr race at 11.05, hoping to get logged in shortly for the B race?
At 70kg you are a massive flatland pounding monster compared to some of us!
But a super lightweight whippet compared to most of the rest!
Sorry Blader, i'd have probably been tempted as i won't be riding outside today and tomorrow with the weather at FoD isn't necessarily looking ideal.... but only just read this and would have 2 mins.
6'6" and 100kg here, definitely a bit overweight but not to a degree where I can be bothered until the clocks change and I can start doing some endurance rides outside.
My last race 20 min power was 246, which gives me 2.46w/kg, the maths is easy at 100kg! If I were 70kg that'd be over 3.5w/kg, I think I'd look a bit hungry though, about 80kg is the lowest I get away with.
Might try a ~50 miler or so on Saturday, the furthest I've been on Zwift was the 31 mile Specialized Roubaix competition rides.
On the weight note, there were some interesting bits on here:
The taller you are, the slower you’ll go. The test laps we’ve done show that it works out to ~30 seconds longer on a full Richmond lap for each 15cm (approximately 6?) of height added. Or to put it another way: a 5? rider will be ~1 minute faster than a 6? rider (all other things being equal).
If we look at the lap times for a 250w lap for riders of 100kg and 83.3kg weights, we can surmise that in this weight and power range, each kilogram of weight you lose will cut 5.8 seconds off your Richmond lap time.
Boo! 🙂
I'm 6ft/70kg - definitely feel like I'm being penalised somewhere and I think it's a combination of crap tactics (non TT races) and height after toasty's post. E.g. http://www.zwiftpower.com/race.php?id=2345
Would be nice to see height in Zwiftpower to make a little more sense out of the data - or is that a little intrusive?
I'd have thought weight was just as intrusive? 🙂 Definitely would be good to see, purely for comparisons sake, when it's clearly a factor.
I'm amazed it's that big actually, going by what I posted above, a foot extra height is similar to 10kg weight at my sort of figures. It also looks like at 400 watts the weight difference tapers out, I'd assume height continues to apply, if not more so as you're going quicker?
I must say, when I used to ride with a local cycling club people did used to queue up behind me. Got very used to either riding solo or at the front 🙁
i was once praised for my turn on the front because 2 of the smaller female cyclists could both get behind me at the same time and continue their chat. Which says something about both my physique and the speed i drive a group at.
(really they were both admiring my arse, of course)
I've just discovered it's actually available 😳
Click on the columns button on the top left, then height.
It's not my height 🙄
So, if i drop 33% of my bodyweight i may keep NathB in sight for the first 30s ?
Or get few feet shorter, if that's any easier?
I don't really see being tall as a disadvantage - what you lose in aerodynamics, you gain in larger heart/lungs etc. Certainly doesn't seem to have done Wiggins, Froome, Dumoulin etc any harm!
In the 2014 TDF the average climber was 180cm which is slightly taller than the average man on the street.
No I thought that if I had similar stats to someone else but they were slightly shorter I'd lose out. This is all in Zwift - not the real world (where I can sit on their wheel haha).
@weeksy - I don't know what to say to that, other than 3-4 years ago I was 95kg and couldn't run a mile.
Well, my replacement Tacx brake unit has turned up, supposedly updated to the latest firmware at Tacx HQ.
Will get it hooked up & calibrated this weekend and won't go near the 'update' button!!
Was really excited about it, but 3 trips to Halfords, numerous e-mails to Tacx & a 2 week delay has kind of put the skids on my enthusiasm for the 'smart trainer'....ho hum...
Racing the ztr London in d cat last night made me appreciate how fast the a cats go - embarrassing how fast they came past. The novelty of zwift still hasn't worn off - a 3 week hiatus for man flu and I seem to have dropped a few watts.
Further sold on Zwift after todays ride. Was doing a hateful 4x8 workout and cracked a minute into the last one 🙁 Oh but look, it's fox hill up ahead and the current KOM is a little over 7 mins. Drop out of workout mode and I'm off again to bag a spotty jersey and get my last interval done 🙂
Point being I doubt I'd have done that on Trainer Road.
Was doing a hateful 4x8 workout
105%?
Pretty sure I saw in a study linked to an article on polarised training that 4x8 had produced optimal results.
fifeandy, yes, and they're hideous.
Yes, much better suited to purging your sins than building your FTP 😈
🙂 Well it is a a bit of an experiment, we shall see. It's a bit of a shock having spent 3 months doing lots of long steady tempo blocks.
Didn't realise there was a STW Zwift group on strava. Just joined. I've been using Zwift during the winter months for the last 12 months, love it.
I currently ride early weekday mornings at 6am for an hour or so before work. I'm going to start joining in on the ZTR races on Tuesdays and Thursday evenings too.
Is there a regular STW group ride on Zwift?
I'm going to be popping STW in the Zwift name to aid in rider spotting 🙂
Yea I think STW at the end of your name would be a good idea too.
I'm just getting over a bout of manflu so hope to do a gentle spin either tonight or this weekend.
Any regular Zwift "racers" on here? What series do you do?
mostly the KISS europe series. because they tend to start at 8pm which works well for me.
8pm is too late for me. I need a good few hours to wind down otherwise I won't sleep...! I'd rather race before an evening meal too.
who knew it was so easy to get a jersey 🙂 think I'm a way off yet... did laps of London Classique yesterday trying to get the green jersey, managed 8th on the leaderboard at one point but that was it!Oh but look, it's fox hill up ahead and the current KOM is a little over 7 mins. Drop out of workout mode and I'm off again to bag a spotty jersey
Beware all - I'll be out [s]mincing[/s], err, smashing the place to bits tonight for at 30-60min or so. Won't have time to do a race so prob just riding round on the TT bike (stops me cheating and sucking wheels when I'm tired)
please don't be offended if you say hi and I don't reply - haven't really got to grips with that shit yet and can't pair my phone as the pc's not on wifi. Haven't even given a "ride-on" while actually moving yet 😳
If you are set on getting a jersey you know you can force Zwift to load the map of your choice?
Just load up Watopia when everyone else in on Richmond and hit the hills 😉
(not that I've done this and took a screen shot....that would be quiet sad!)
I wonder if you can manually set yourself onto the volcano loop yet?
who knew it was so easy to get a jersey
Easy isn't quite the word I'd use 😉
By the way, Neo is great, really liking it (other than erg mode which felt a bit like riding through thick mud). Did think I'd broken it at one point but it was just simulating the railway sleepers!
i'm still only 12th in the STW Zwifters group...
There's some proper quick STWers who never actually seem to have posted in this thread.... they fly around there but are completely anonymous !
I post occasionally as I'm in a different time zone to you guys but I just had a look at those segemnt times.
Look out ChrisW and Lee Saunders as I'm after a top ten spot up Box Hill and I "only" have to shave a couple of seconds of my PR! 😉
Lol, it's sobering when you look at the pools of sweat dripping off you and you realise you're only 12493th place in the overall standings...
Anyone doing the ZHR Winter miles ride or MGCC Pretzel ride on Sunday? The latter looks shorter but a good way of getting a decent 70k hardish ride in...
Look out ChrisW and Lee Saunders as I'm after a top ten spot up Box Hill and I "only" have to shave a couple of seconds of my PR
Well you know what I'll be doing this weekend then 🙂
Looking at some of the faster times it seems 400-500w brings it down to the 5-6 min range....pitty my 5min power is 310 🙁
Woooooo here comes some bragging.....
Just checked my standings on the Box Hill (Zwiftblog verified) segment and I'm currently 1st out of the STWers on here 😆
6min 34s
Who is gonna steal it then?!
Seems I've got the Hilly KOM forward too 1min 51s
https://www.strava.com/segments/12744502?filter=overall
https://www.strava.com/segments/12109030?filter=overall
Well as I died on my arse to get 30th on the list and 27th on the other, I can't see it being me.
I put out about 250w on box hill, so I'd need to be over 500. Which is about my 30s speed
ANyone on the Friday Crit lookout for Ashraf
Bargain for someone.
Just checked my standings on the Box Hill (Zwiftblog verified) segment and I'm currently 1st out of the STWers on here
I suspect you're even better than that given some of the times and power measurements on that segment look suspect to say the least (720W with average heart rate of 134?). Bit of digital EPO going on, methinks.
Anyone doing the ZHR Winter miles ride or MGCC Pretzel ride on Sunday? The latter looks shorter but a good way of getting a decent 70k hardish ride in
Since the weather looks pants on Sunday I might try it, have only raced for an hour at the time so far si not sure about 3hrs on the turbo.
[quote> https://www.strava.com/segments/12744502?filter=overall
https://www.strava.com/segments/12109030?filter=overall
Who is the the most hated man in meonstoke, and more importantly, why?
Enquiring minds need to know!
anybody else on there just now - other riders kept disappearing & finally screen froze on me for 5 minutes. weird
I think the most hated man is either a mate of bikebuoy or is bikebuoy
and anyway, there are no real men in meonstoke, are there ?
Mrs Wally now wants to join in the fun, so I added a user. Then realised this is another membership. I guess the same PC cannot have two users?
Sure can, you just log in with your own names/id
Weeksy, I have set up another user for her and logged in as her - the Ride /Join message is up there. Having recently paid up, when I log in I just get Ride. She gets a trial countdown when she logs on. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
nuts! 12th on the box hill climb now
thats my sunday evening sorted then
New race cats could be on the horizon.... If Zwiftrankings.com takes off, it could be a game changer.
http://zwiftrankings.com/vcr/client/home
I'm not really Zwift racing at the mo so I haven't looked into it in detail (and barely understand what I have read 😀 ) but anything has to be better than grouping people by an arbitrary stat rather than by how good they are at actually racing....
If you think ZwiftPower is geeky, you ain't seen nothing yet 😉
Oh, you mean both riding at the same time?
Wally- you need a subscription for each user I believe...
I'm going to restart my Zwift racing career next week - had a bit of a break from it this week.
I was going to go out for a couple of hours on Sunday to recover from tomorrow's race but it looks like it's going to throw it down. Anyone doing anything on Zwift?
Thinking I might try and do a couple, but probably just one lol:
09:50am DKZR Sunday Mountain Rave (Watopia Mountain Route)
11:05am Tacx Online Challenge (Watopia Figure 8)
12:05 Asia Sunday KOM Race (Watopia Pretzel 9.9mile)
@crosshair - that website is so page 53 😆
Oh sorry 😀 I was busy today and this thread moves fast for us simple country folk 😀
No not same time, but I think I need to give up ideas of Mrs Wally having her own user, same computer.
We've used 3 different people on my laptop when testing stuff, log in as each one when starting the app.
Maybe I'm missing something in what you're writing, but nothing you're saying sounds impossible.
It should be really simple.
Strava questions. I am a non premium member,is this the reason why the give kudos box is greyed out? Wanted to kudos a bloke i rode a whole race with but the option is not available.
Also how do you see the list of stw zwifters, i can only see the activity feed.
Thanks for answering Weeksy and being very patient with my issue and writing.
I will try to deliberately be succinct this time.
1) I am a user on zwift - email and password and paid up.
2) Wife sees me having fun and wants to join in.
3) I click on change user beneath my name and add wife as a new user - different email and password.
4) Log on as me and I have no limits
5) Log on as wife and she has 6 days remaining.
6) I do log onto each when I start the app, by looking at user name and clicking beneath - change user.
Any ideas?
Have you paid for wife or is she on a free trail?
Free trial. I suspect her thoughts are a fad. I guess she will have to ride as me, who is paid up. I just naively hoped it would be a bit like Neflix - one computer can equal more than one users.
Free trial. I suspect her thoughts are a fad. I guess she will have to ride as me, who is paid up. I just naively hoped it would be a bit like Neflix - one computer can equal more than one user.
I guess you could use one zwift account and do the strava bit manually to log the data. The .fit files are logged and can be manually added to Strava.
Yay! I'm now on the STW Zwifters Box Hill leaderboard
(boo.... you've got to scroll to page 2 to see me)
Are the people climbing it in 5 minutes on virtual EPO or have they hooked their ebikes up to their trainers?
Now that would definitely get boltonjon turning circles ..... people cheating using ebikes on a fitness trainer just to claim strava superiority - to think nothing of the damage to the pixels with all the wheelspinning.