Regrettably, meritorious or otherwise, I'm still working until 5pm.
I’m still working until 5pm.
It seems all the best / popular events are late afternoon / early evening, kind of annoying when I'm working late every day.
It's much more limited at 7am / 8am when I am available and usually my legs are not ready for a full on race at that time. Usually restricted to Aus / Kiwi races. Even the recent Tour events avoided those times and did 6am or 9am!!
Thank god for the commute club rides, they give me a focus at an unsociable time!
Even the recent Tour events avoided those times and did 6am or 9am!!
There do seem to be some very obvious gaps in scheduling of races, and very odd volumes at strange times. It's a bit like gym classes all being at 1pm and nonsense.
Noticed there were a handful more if sub 60min workouts on Zwift last night, so I tried the 20min one named "Miracle."
Warmup, then two blocks of four 1min intervals separated by ~15sec recovery periods, where the 4th interval is freeride for you to do the best you can.
Not a bad workout,bit less demanding than Emily's Short Mix.
Oh I might take a look at those. Cheers for the heads up.
will give that a try, don’t want to commit to a proper plan as I want the flexibility to be able to race etc, so like doing the occasional standalone workout.Noticed there were a handful more if sub 60min workouts on Zwift last night, so I tried the 20min one named “Miracle.”
Usually do ESM but bump it up a couple of points otherwise I feel I’ve got off lightly. Only done “The Wringer” once, that was tough!
Did the 3pm race up Alp du Zwift today. Only my second time up but took 15 seconds of my first time. Happy with that.
Flight to stay ahead of the guy behind me that shadowed me Josh of the way up.
He was 71. I am not 71 so a lot of fitness to go yet, and weight to lose. 98kg, I really feel that on the climbs...
Nothing else to add as I'm ****ed. 😓
You can ordinarily only influence your own performance, keep pushing the envelope!
Oh, I actually meant I too 15 minutes off my previous time, not seconds.Lol
Just keep pushing! Well done on the improvement, it's always good to race someone, it always helps the times.
Oh, I actually meant I too 15 minutes off my previous time, not seconds.Lol
That's a bloody good effort! Well done.
He was 71. I am not 71
Don't worry, we all get thrashed by old boys.
Nothing is quicker than a septuagenarian on a bike older than you are. It's just the way of the world.
Um, we have qualified to ride in the TTT Premier League this week. I have to accept or decline our place by the end of tomorrow. Shall I say yes?
Two things to bear in mind...
- We'd have to ride in Latte class this week, so a max of 3 B riders. Normally we don't pay any attention to the composition of the team, and I like doing it that way. We just ride in whatever formation enters. And normally it doesn't matter because we get reclassified into the appropriate category for whatever combination show up on the start line. But for this week only we'd have to pay attention (realistically that means phil56, dangeourbrain and tiger6791 who rode us into this position in the first place) and it would matter for once because in the PL you get a "DNQ" rather than reclassified if you don't ride with the right composition.
- It's a sightlier earlier start than usual - 6pm instead of 6.30pm. Can everyone make that?
It's broadcast on zwift community live facebook/youtube, but let's be honest I don't think that Latte gets much attention (last week's broadcast is still up to take a peek at). And I'm supposed to supply a bio of each rider but we can come to that later I guess. The course is confirmed now, it's 2 pan flat laps of Tick Tock, total 36km.
Thoughts?
👍 Why not
Yeah go for it!! 😀
wd lads - champion's league qualification!
I don't know what Cat everyone else is - who would still be able to ride and who would get excluded as too many B's?
You 3 guys as mentioned above are B, everyone else in the team was C, so could have the same team. Guessing you have to ride in the same PL category that you qualified in. Still would be room for a couple more C/D riders though as max is 8!
Yep, last week's team could obviously ride together again:
dangeourbrain B
phil56 B
tiger6791 B
ljarch C
savoyad C
zilog6128 C
with two spaces left for C or D category riders. That might include e.g. ivandobski (and looking further back, dknwhy).
Assuming all three of those B's ride, it would exclude weeksy and trail_rat (and kelvinshuffle).
Based on that then I think it would be Ok to give it a go - but let's not let it get too serious - we're still in this for the fun!!
Oh.
Harsh.
Lol.
I've just realised this week I've ridden 350km on a turbo Trainer.
I need to get out more....
Well done you lot! that's a proper result getting that qualification.
Will be giving you a cheer along come Thursday!
I’ve just realised this week I’ve ridden 350km on a turbo Trainer.
I need to get out more…
I've ridden way way more outside than inside this week
Today was all about the climbing
Set out to do 3300m climbing
Had it all mapped out locally. Got up. Couldn't even see the end of the garden with the fog and it wasn't forecast to lift all day. Didn't seem clever to play with traffic on the high routes
Jumped on zwift and did quatch quest , zipped back down the alpe
....stepped off to inside for a coffee and a snack. Came back it was still going down the hill....turned round and climbed back up , descended, climbed epic Kom to the radio tower and descent back down to the Italian villas. 100km and 3380m climb
Eaten all the food this evening now
Whoa good effort, that's alot of climbing! I'm dead after one accent of the Alpe.
I need to start pacing myself so I can do things like this, I have something in my head that everytime I'm on a timed climb I want to beat my pb and I tire myself out...I need to stop doing it and chill sometimes...just enjoy the ride.
Can someone explain this team tt thing to me as me and a few of my club mates may be interested in giving it a go.
Is it wtrl racing? And can someone explain how we go about registering a team?
Ta
It is Wtrl.racing.com
Website has all the information you'll need
On the top banner click 'WTRL Team'
Then select 'WTRL Racing Team on Zwiftpower' from the dropdown
This takes you to Zwiftpower, on the top banner you'll see 'create new team'
Sorry savoyad, only just seen your post. That's a good result, I think we can be very pleased with that, expecially on a hilly course.
Typically I'm in the office on Thursday this week. I'd be happy to give it a go but 6pm might be a bit tight on start time is the only thing.
Still gives me cause to make sure I'm out the door at 5pm
That didn't work!
You need to sign up to the wtrl site tpbiker. Login and then registration is very quick - just choose a time slot, class and team name. That's it - you don't need to pre-register riders or anything like that.
You can even get the class wrong and it doesn't really matter, as you'll be reclassified int he final results.
There's then 4 or 5 very simple things to do for everyone to set up, at least some of which are guaranteed to be bolloxed up as they are counter-intuitive.
@phil56 yeah it's all about the lolz, THAT SAID as a very flat course where it should be easy to keep the group together... I'd be tempted to try some proper team tactics with organised turns at the front (few mins hard, rest at the back, repeat) to really max the speed. Just a thought though, I'll probably be at the back just trying to hang on as usual 😂Based on that then I think it would be Ok to give it a go – but let’s not let it get too serious – we’re still in this for the fun!!
Thats a great result, I'm definatly up for having another go. I was worried I'd slow you all up but just about had enough to hang with and get through last time!
OK, I have accepted the premier league invitation and withdrawn us from the normal TTT race this week. The event start is 6pm, I'll confirm our exact start delay nearer the time as usual.
The entry link is... a secret. I'll message it to each of dangeourbrain, phil56, tiger6791, ljarch and zilog6128.
Other cat C or cat D riders are welcome to join us. Ask in here for the link. This would be a good moment for ivandobski and dknwhy to return to the fray if they see this.
Our team tactic will not change because of the fancy context - let's bounce around like lottery balls as normal, and aim to get the whole team over the line together.
If for any reason we aren't going to make it I have until 7pm Weds to move our entry back across to the normal race. Or if we end up short of cat Bs we'd need to persuade weeksy or trail_rat to step in. dangeourbrain are you going to make it on time for 6pm do you think?
That's all. Back to normal service, hopefully including weeksy, next week.
dangeourbrain are you going to make it on time for 6pm do you think?
It's certainly the plan.
I’ll message it to each of dangeourbrain,
Done thank you - I notice it links to an 18.15 start. I've also removed my self from the 18.30 so I don't get auto switched mod race!
That's good and I should definitely make that unless something goes badly wrong.
I'm in as emergency backup yes.... Just shout.
Been having issues with the Core due to my terrible pedalling "style" and my current 94kg weight.
It sways too much to the right as the turbo is mounted right of centre on the leg.
So... Ordered some 40mm steel tube to lengthen the front leg. I'll be shortening it (on the left) but this is just the initial fitment. So far so good, much more stable. Easy enough to do with a drill and file.
Sorry about the carpet/ mess.... but I'm sure you'll see the steel tube in there somewhere.😁
It's not too subtle!
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How did you find the race earlier @Poopscoop - it didn't seem to be working that well with "open" roads, no timings etc etc?
^^ Was it what's called a "blind" race as you can't see anyone else's data/name, W/kg, cat etc etc.
It was odd and I wasn't even sure if I was racing against people in the actual race or random riders! Lol
Got a bronze in D, I was nearly 20 seconds behind you Dobski!😆
I didn't know "blind races" were a thing - I didn't like it whatever it was!
Racing-wise I had a mare - I wasn't feeling great all day but I did the first lap right up at the front then started to fade really badly, didn't want to empty the tank ahead of tomorrow's TTT so ended up solo-ing most of the second lap cadging drafts when people came past but not going too deep.
My first lap was PR after PR but inc my second lap my total average power was roughly 25% down on a normal race and I needed a proper lie down.
Great result for a podium though - I knew you were bluffing on the startline. 😉
Bluffing! I wish.lol
I was just desperately trying to stay in the draft of anyone really. Not even knowing if they were in the race or what.lol
Not sure I like this format, as you say.
I managed a cursory sprint to the line but the people I was staying with/overtaking/being over taken by.... I'm not even sure if they were in the race with us! Lol😆
Most odd.
So er, Bikes.
I could have sworn a while ago there was a Venge, and a Venge S Works. I bought the Venge S Works with my drops. This now appears to be a "Venge" and "Venge S Works disc". My bike still has S Works on the downtube.
Whats fastest? And do I still have an S Works - I think yes - or have I defaulted to a standard Venge?
What level are you at Kryton? The fast venge s works is about level 33 I think, that is the fastest bike in zwift with the right wheels.
The normal venge is a much lower level at 18, I have that one, it's still fairly fast, I think 2nd or 3rd fastest under level 30. It does still say s works on the tube though....go figure 🙂
Not sure about the disc version, I'm guessing that's the wheels, if so it will be fast as the disc wheels are fastest on the flat.
I just ride the Tron all the time, pretty fast for all scenarios, plus it looks rad. Can't be arsed with constant faffing about swapping just to shave off a second here or there!!
What level are you at Kryton? The fast venge s works is about level 33 I think, that is the fastest bike in zwift with the right wheels.
34. I couldn't buy this bike until 33, which I did. I'm riding it with Zipp 454's which overall is the fastest "all round" combo on Zwift I think.
Its odd, it feels as though they've change it.
I don't swap bikes either.
out of those 2 bikes then, the S Works disc is faster. Pretty easy to tell which one you have, does it have discs? 😃 The non-disc S Works is not one of the faster bikes.
https://zwiftinsider.com/fastest-frames/
I think you will still be on the fast s works then, I can't see why it would change.
I agree that swapping for a few seconds makes no sense, only if it makes a significant difference. I do have a climbing set up and a flat setup I swap between. When I eventually get a tron I won't be swapping either....but I'm miles off still.
Ahh disc brakes not disc wheels...pretty obvious if you have it or not then.
I tried that when I first starting Zwifting but more often than not I'd forget and then within 5s of starting the next race I'd realise I was on the wrong bike 😂 Tron doesn't actually take that long if you concentrate on hilly races & session the Alpe a few times... still never got those bloody wheels though!! 😭I do have a climbing set up and a flat setup I swap between.
I've got the Tron but not ended up using it that much, the whole "if you're on the hoods, you're in the draft" thing is too useful for me as keeps me from yoyo-ing off the front too much
https://zwiftinsider.com/charts-wheels/
https://zwiftinsider.com/charts-frames/
I'm level 29...
On big climbs I usually use Tarmac Pro and Enve 3.4
In TTs I use P5 and usually Zipp 808
On rolling courses usually the Tron, or maybe the S5 with Zipp 454
I think you're misunderstanding me.
Zilog6128 - the image in that article shows the Venge with disc brakes, but the price is that of the Venge S Works with Rim brakes, which is what I purchased. If you have a look at the drop shop now;
a) The standard level 18 Venge seems to have gone
b) The "Venge" seems to have replaced the "Venge S Works" rim brakes at level 33
c) The "Venge disc" also at level 33 is more expensive than the rim brake version at over 900,000 drops.
So there seems to be a re-alignment.
In this new shop, the Venge & Venge disc have the same scores/stars but I'm not sure if the change in drops pricing represent performance - or like in the real world - its just more expensive because it has disc brakes on it.
LOL i'm confused why you care enough ?
We're talking maybe 1-2sec on a 30 mins ride.
Good TT bike / wheels is meant to make a decent difference is it not on tempus? Heard it was more like 20secs but no experience myself.
Look at the charts linked above, as Weeksy says we are talking seconds here.
Climbing bike vs flat bike is one thing and makes sense to change depending on route...but disc bike vs rims, I don't think it will save much. If you are that bothered then buy both 😉
nope, I have the Venge (rim brakes) @ lvl 18 and Venge S-Works (discs) @ lvl 33 in my drop shop. Latest version on iOS (literally updated just now to check!)f you have a look at the drop shop now;a) The standard level 18 Venge seems to have gone
b) The “Venge” seems to have replaced the “Venge S Works” rim brakes at level 33
If you have a look at the drop shop now;
a) The standard level 18 Venge seems to have gone
b) The “Venge” seems to have replaced the “Venge S Works” rim brakes at level 33
c) The “Venge disc” also at level 33 is more expensive than the rim brake version at over 900,000 drops.
I only have 2 options when I look, the standard venge which I already own, or the s works version which clearly shows discs at 900,000 drops level 33
Edit - beaten by Zilog but same result
Look at the charts linked above, as Weeksy says we are talking seconds here.
Climbing bike vs flat bike is one thing and makes sense to change depending on route…but disc bike vs rims, I don’t think it will save much. If you are that bothered then buy both
Damn, that is a trivial difference, more like 1 or 2 seconds on 1 lap of TF. Thought it would be higher.
As an aside, anyone run Zwift on a big telly/monitor? Currently use my iPad Pro, fairly small screen but really immersive once you're in the zone! Thinking about getting a big, cheap 4K telly (LG, Hisense, etc) since the price has come down loads, and there's a nice 20% Currys eBay voucher at the moment 😃
Does it actually make Zwift better though, and how big is too big?! Could also be used when partner does her virtual Les Mills, and as general garage telly!!
@weeksy - are you still able to jump in for the TTT as a B this evening? My day is rapidly going to poo so I'm either working until I finish this evening or going to have to head back into the office tonight after the race.
As an aside, anyone run Zwift on a big telly/monitor?
Not "big" by modern standards, but I finally got around to playing Zwift last week on this gaming PC I'm on right now with our ~11 years old LG 32LH3000 32" HD TV, was great compared to the usual Surface Pro 4 (also 1080p) and immense compared to the emergancy Android app on my Xiaomi Mi A2! 😆
If needed mate yes.
Which case if I can I'll take you up on that now rather than leave it to later - link forwarded in DM here for sign up.
Cheers and good luck.
Looking forward to the TTT later. shame you won't make it dangeourbrain all good we have weeksy the super sub 🙂 are we off first? looks like it on the WTRL site no pressure then haha!
Is there a twitch link or something for tonight's TTT?
I only have 2 options when I look, the standard venge which I already own, or the s works version which clearly shows discs at 900,000 drops level 33
Well, thats what I can see now, but I'm sure that wasn't the case. Anyway, I had 6.8m drop to spend so upgrading wasn't a problem.
As an aside, anyone run Zwift on a big telly/monitor?
I bought a 2nd hand Dell 21" all in one which sits on a bench in front of my front wheel, having that size of monitor really helps the experience. I was coming from a 11" laptop.
TTTers: has anybody submitted any blurb? Really can't think of anything, don't want to be the only one not to do it though 😂
The Zwift community live channel will stream it on twitch i think Ivan,
Ive not submitted a bio thing as yet Zilog like you no idea what to say ha
OK boys, i'm in and entered... I assume we're doing Discord ?
I'll be on in plenty of time... i SHOULD be able to put in a decent effort as it's flat, but i'm a little tired, so i'll do my best lads...
nice one @weeksy! Your watts will be well appreciated I am sure!! Yeah, discord as per usual.
I’m racing for our club in our “seconds” team (lpcc2) in B, see you there...
nice one Kryts, we'll see if we can beat your time 🙂
Good luck.
OK boys, i’m in and entered…
Thank you for that, that's one load off.
No worries mate... i enjoy it 🙂
Well, i enjoy trying to enjoy it anyway.
thanks weeksy, can you dm me a one sentence bio?
@savoyad what did you put for yours? maybe it would be easier/funnier if we did each others rather than our own 😂
TTT Premier League final details:
Event start / in the pen by 6.15pm.
Our start delay is 1 minute, so we are off at 6.16pm. Phil can you handle stopwatching?
The usual discord channel for comms
Interested spectators might catch a glimpse of the STW team on the Zwift Community Live stream here:
Tonight's line up is:
phil56
tiger6791
weeksy
ljarch
zilog6128
IvanDobski
I can't ride tonight (aarrggh I've known this since this morning), so I can't sign off with "see you in the pen" - but I've sent some bios over to the organisers, and I'll try and catch the stream on my phone.
Good luck lads, enjoy your moment!
I've done mine in the style of a Michael Buffer ring announcement, hopefully it gets some air time!
@savoyad That's a shame, thanks again for organising though!! Hopefully see you back again next week!