[Closed] WTFU!

Damm straight!
I did a really big poo once, I didn't need drugs or a poowife to help me.

As a man, it is a scientific fact that Dr Denis Walsh has [i]simply no idea what he is talking about[/i].

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/women-to-force-hat%11stand-into-anus-of-male-midwife-200907131899/ ]The Mash says it all[/url]

I disagree. Women are too emotionally involved with the pain to take an objective view on the subject 🙂

LMAO! cheers Moses!

My missus didn't get the option of any pain medication for the second one and point blank refused for the first. I'm guessing the dude knows what he's talking about.
There are however questions to be asked about why am ale would want to be a midwife. Kinky fetishist perhaps?

TBH Mrs S's male midwife was superb.
Female midwives OTOH are clucking old busy bodies with a qualification in quackery.

YMMV

I reckon it's more likely he just likes women & babies. I'd have guessed that seeing all that pain & hearing the screaming (extrapolating from the 2 births I've been at) would put him off sex, if anything.

[i]I'd have guessed that seeing all that pain & hearing the screaming would put him off sex[/i]

Why? Seeing the pain and hearing the screaming is the best bit of sex. 😉

There are a number of issues around child birth that I wonder about….

1) How do they know when its due? Is there some sort of clock on the womb that says at 2:30 on Friday 27th October you will go into labour?
2) Why do they artificially induce labour?
3) Why administer muscle relaxants, (pain killers) making delivery more difficult and caesarean more likely.
4) Why is it that every time you got to a maternity hospital everything that was good practice last time has been changed.
5) Why are there never enough mid wives on duty
6) Are any of the above to do with managing resources rather than caring for patients?
7) Finally, the big one which is why when you attend a birth, does you partner a) claw your arm, b) hold you hand in a grip that would make Hulk Hogan wince c) abuse you roundly and threaten you with castration?

No real issues, just things I have wondered about over the years

Female midwives OTOH are clucking old busy bodies with a qualification in quackery.

Our female midwife (and previous experience in first marriage) was superb - focussed when necessary, inconspicuous at other times, really helped us so it's possible you were just unlucky.

I *might* mention this story to Mrs Heathen later to see what her reaction is (today is a very hormonally charged day so I'm not taking any chances) but I suspect that she'll recognise a grain of truth in the 'rite of passage' angle. She had gas and air right up until the last hour when she had pethidine (sp?). She absolutely refused any suggestion of an epidural as she thought it would disconnect her from the process. Actually, I think that pretty much covers it and I shan't be asking her anything later (except, perhaps, "Another chocolate, dear?")

g - in answer to your musings

1-6 just demonstrate that for all of the research its still pretty much an unknown quantity.

7 - all 3

My wife had 2 emergency c-sections and although she/we would have prefered the natural route I really don't think its affected her bond with our boys. She has recently got back out on her mtb too - having 2 c-sections in 18 months has had quite an impact on her core strength as you can imagine!

My wife managed both with only gas and air at the end, and also some self-hypnosis techniques. The best advice given to us is that when it's time for the baby to come, it'll come. If you were asleep/unconscious, your body will still try to to give birth naturally at the right time, it's internally regulated rather than something you decide. If you can relax to a point where you let the body get on with it it's much easier.

Actually just remembering - she did have a TENS machine for the first too, and I remember reminding her of this during a contraction and that she could turn the thing up higher if she wanted. her answer was unrepeatable as in one movement she reached behind her to tear the sticky pads off and in one swift movement hurl the thing at me from a distance of about 4 feet.

Having seen my ex have 3 babies and having shattered my right femur in a v big motorcycle accident......I'll take the broken femur anyday....I'm so pleased im a bloke and don't have to do the having a baby thing

Having a baby looks ****in sore

PS: We've had two, first was a pretty normal hospital/natural birth kind of thing, 2nd came at home and was delivered by muggins here. Very scarey and not something I'd want to do again! Personally huge respect to the girlies, agreed that it wouldn't be something I'd want to go through.

He was on Radio 4 this morning and is clearly being widely misquoted to make a story out of nothing.

The main thrust of what he was saying was that epidurals are now commonly used in normal labour, whereas previously they were only used during difficult labour.

He pointed out that this may cause harm as pain is one of the ways that the "rhythm of labour" is controlled and without it mothers may push at the wrong time etc. The femaile midwife (and mother) on the show agreed with most of his points.

Seemed fairly reasonable to be honest and despite how it will be reported in the press, he definitely wasn't saying that women were just big sissies or that they should just Fem The **** Up.

Childbirth is quite a natural thing - been going on for longer than modern medicine aparantly.

If you have a SunRoof (C-section) the body dosent react as if its given birth and certain hormones/chemicals are not released. This confuses the body and it still thinks its pregnant - many women who have a SunRoof fail to loose weight afterwards as the body is still in pregnant mode.

The pain and trauma associated with giving birth stimulate lots of hormones/chemicals in the body to allow it to move onto the next phase of rearing a child. Mess with this and you could upset the whole thing.