[Closed] Woohoo! 58.5mpg 😀

correct 🙂

ive been resisting topping up my car, to get rid of that horrible tesco piss water i bought last week.
tonight im gonna brim it with top notch BP diesel, and drive for 3 hrs back up to shrewsbury 🙂

will be loaded up with a table and stuff, but hoping to get about 58mpg, if i can keep my speed down it should be higher still 😀

2.0l HDi in a 206 estate here 🙂 normaly about 48mpg

anyone else fancy joining our loosers post?

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If you think that's impressive, go buy a Honda CG125. I used to get bored waiting to fill mine up. 110+ mpg easily........
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whats the best diesel to buy?

I'd be amazed if there is a significant difference between forecourt brands. A few additives perhaps but nothing that should have a dramatic effect on the mpg.

Generally 58-60mpg......best ever was 70.6 on the computer, probably actually 67mpg.

That's with a Ibiza Sport 1.9TDi (130bhp, 310NM torque)..

I get very sad & geeky with my mpg!!

I am deleting my account. Bye.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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I'd be amazed if there is a significant difference between forecourt brands. A few additives perhaps but nothing that should have a dramatic effect on the mpg.

You'd be supprised, supermarket stuff realy is watered down (usualy not with water). Tends to work out about the same, it'll be 2-3% cheeper, and give 2-3% lower mpg and performance. Its not nececeraly any worse for the engine, just blended out of different components to give the same octane rating but lower enthalpy.

I got 34mpg the other week. Not bad for a 2.5 diesel.

In a LWB lT35 van with half a camper inside 🙂

I got better mileage from BP ultimate but not enough in money terms to justify the expense. Of course there's a carbon saving...

I get 58-60 regularly and had a fair few 62mpg tankfuls.. with some town driving included 🙂

If you think that's impressive, go buy a Honda CG125. I used to get bored waiting to fill mine up. 110+ mpg easily........

To be honest a bike that weighs 10% of the weight of my car getting under double the fuel economy is distinctly unimpressive mate 🙂

Kit - I'm looking at buying a similar Mondeo to yours, are there any problems, things to look out for?

Ta

depends, I only got 98mpg reving the tits off mine.

Shocking economy there spoon.

Makes my 37mpg in a 4x4 look positively eco-friendly.

Mind you, I never go above 65 and I have road biased tyres on.

Funkydunc - Yes there are a few. Check out the car by car breakdown at www.honestjohn.co.uk

Most of them aren't mondeo specific, more related to newer high pressure injection diesels. Specific ones are flashing glow plug lights are dangerous, in most cars this means the glow plugs need changing (under £100 all in) on a mondeo it means an expensive engine problem (injectors, flywheel, fuel pump etc). If the starter doesn't engage properly (ie engine doesn't start funny sqwaky kind of noise) then this is a sign the dual mass flywheel is on the way out £700ish) as is lots of vibration especially when cold. Clunking rear suspension over bumps normally means the sub frame bushes need doing, this shouldn't be too expensive (£150ish at a friendly local garage, Ford dealers generally try to make you have a new subframe.

I'm not trying to put a downer on them, I've had 3 and they're great cars. Every car has problems!

To be honest a bike that weighs 10% of the weight of my car getting under double the fuel economy is distinctly unimpressive mate

Ahh, you can't say because it's a 10th of the weight it should get 10 times the MPG. It don't work like that, sorry.
Plus a CG is probably about 220-230kg with a rider on board, and a car about 14-1500kg, so it's more like a 6th of the weight....Then bikes have shockingly poor aerodynamics. And it's an ancient pushrod engine. And it's petrol, not diesel etc....
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Great thread this <stifles yawn>.

Lucky to get 25/30 mpg out of my 4x4 - it's not an X5 before we start all that again though 😉

Wouldn't change it for anything else.

Kit - I'm looking at buying a similar Mondeo to yours, are there any problems, things to look out for?

I have the clunking rear suspension problem steveh noted, and there's an intermittent engine problem where I lose a lot of power and get loads of grey/white smoke from the exhaust. It seems to be an electronic fault though, and one that hasn't appeared for some time. Other than that, a great car (which I'm looking to sell).

Ahh, you can't say because it's a 10th of the weight it should get 10 times the MPG

That's not what I'm saying at all mate. Are you a journalist? 🙂

I am saying that for something so small a mere 80% improvement isn't that great. And yes, I know why it's like that, which is why I'm not impressed 🙂

Wow, I get 25mpg from my LandRover Discovery and 20mpg from my BMW 530i, does this make me a bad person?

Yep, fraid so.

Yeah, thought so... plus I ride an On One 456 😀

AND I am driving to the trails tomorrow in a 4x4, is there no hope for me?

([i]You'd be supprised, supermarket stuff realy is watered down (usualy not with water). Tends to work out about the same, it'll be 2-3% cheeper, and give 2-3% lower mpg and performance. Its not nececeraly any worse for the engine, just blended out of different components to give the same octane rating but lower enthalpy)

I would be very surprised at the above statement as here in central Scotland just about every petrol station is supplied by the Ineos refinery and as such the lorries from the big petrol companies and the supermarkets lorries get the same fuel from the same tanks. In fact I prefer using the supermarkets stuff because it is cheaper, handier and also most are reasonably new so the tanks the fuel are in are less likely to be corroded.

Just saying BMW made you a bad person.

You bad person.

Mind you, you have a Landy (albeit a Disco), so you get some karma back.

The BMW has leather seats...

In fact I am going to drive it in a minute - with the aircon on.

Just because I can!

I am a bad person, especially sitting on seats made of dead cow.

is there no hope for me

It's not you I care about, it's the rest of us!

As for supermarket fuel - it's apparently whatever's going cheap on the open market, and it's various grades and blends. So sometimes it's good and sometimes it's crappy. So I'm told at least.

I'm only concerned about mpg as I commute 600miles/week.

wetgrassagain, either you are well off or you don't do 600 miles/week otherwise you would be a little concerned about your mpg. 😉

I would be very surprised at the above statement as here in central Scotland just about every petrol station is supplied by the Ineos refinery and as such the lorries from the big petrol companies and the supermarkets lorries get the same fuel from the same tanks.

Not being contrary or difficult, purely out of interest - how do you know this as a fact? I've heard loads of people say things like this but when you question them they seem to be basing it on something a friend from the pub said, who happens to have a friend who's a delivery driver for bob who knows someone who's a petrol delivery chap.

I know for a fact that even within a single manufacturer they have different "tanks" from which they deliver, with their own blends, so why is it so different in central scotland that all the companies share and share alike. Do they whisk things like the v-power diesel away to a secret bat cave and re-blend it before taking it to stations?

Yep, a bit extra in the old mpg can mean a big saving over the year. If not wanting to burn money for no reason makes you sad then I must be very depressed.
I usually get just over 40mpg out of my 2 litre Primera. I've got 46mpg out of it on a long motorway trip. Not bad for a petrol car.

My other half gets about 44mpg from her petrol Megane. I get about 49 with a heavy right foot in my HDi, up to 60 on a slow motorway run. I get between 17 and 24 out of my petrol due to said heavy right foot. My petrol doesnt get used much because of it lol.

Do people only care about the financial cost of fuel?

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Do people only care about the financial cost of fuel?

Difficult question to answer, most people have greyscale views and different weighting of each parameter. You can't just say that because financial cost is the overriding factor they do not consider all the other implications too.

Molgrips, I see where you're coming from re the environment, but what are the alternatives to carbon based fuels - electric cars are fine for the city, but for long distances?

And of course none of you are verifying your fuel economy by the little trip computer on your dash are you?????

Only way to work out fuel economy accurately is to brim it with fuel until you can see it in the neck then to refill again to the neck. Then work out your economy from there. I have seen some rather silly figures quoted by customers completely undermined by a simple test

I've just bought one of those. Once I reset the computer, I got it up to 92.8mpg not [i]all[/i] coasting downhill. quite.

Can totally see it getting 60ish ont motorway.

hobo - all my figures come from brim-to-brim refills with a good period of time waited to let the fuel settle in the tank before topping up, from the same garages (avoiding those stupid Asda ones that seem to aerate the fuel to see just how bubbly they can get it.

Long term averages:
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thelittlesthobo....really!? Is that how you do it? 😉

FWIW & because I am that sad, I used to compare my actual mpg to my trip mpg. It was generally about 2% optimistic, occasionally getting to 5% or so.

molgrips, I hate the fact that I have to commute so far & am aware that it is not particularly environmentally friendly. But, having looked for a job in the local area & finding nothing, it got to the point where I could not be choosy about what job I took and unfortunately that means a lengthy commute.

coffeeking thats exactly how i do it as well. You would be shocked at the difference between what a customer with fuel economy problems claims and what is achieved when doing it properly. It also works the other way when someone is quoting figures which are way over the top.

Conversely there are people who seem to be able to get amazing fuel figures due to their driving style. Our Mercedes trained delivery driver (HGV & Vans) can get upto 10mpg on the same journey better than me regardless of how i drive. Just seems to have a smoother style. She does however go out to companies to train the drivers on fuel efficient driving so she blooming ought to.

I get 32mpg combined and upto 37mpg on a long run.

Merc Vito 115 Sport Dualiner Long 🙂

I would be very surprised at the above statement as here in central Scotland just about every petrol station is supplied by the Ineos refinery and as such the lorries from the big petrol companies and the supermarkets lorries get the same fuel from the same tanks.

Not being contrary or difficult, purely out of interest - how do you know this as a fact? I've heard loads of people say things like this but when you question them they seem to be basing it on something a friend from the pub said, who happens to have a friend who's a delivery driver for bob who knows someone who's a petrol delivery chap.

I know for a fact that even within a single manufacturer they have different "tanks" from which they deliver, with their own blends, so why is it so different in central scotland that all the companies share and share alike. Do they whisk things like the v-power diesel away to a secret bat cave and re-blend it before taking it to stations?

I work at said refinery and only one despatch tank is generally on to the road loading terminal (for each product).
regards V power I do not know if that is an additive that (Shell?)adds once the tanker has been filled
The reason all the companies use the same refinery is that it makes no commercial sense for say Shell to run a tanker from Liverpool to Glasgow when there is a nearer refinery for the lorries to run from i.e bp fills shell lorries at one depot and vice versa at the other depot

Mark - v-power D, I believe, is actually created from a couple of other refinery products rather than "refined" AFAIK - I'll try to find the details. But if what you are saying is true, surely unless all makers add stuff at the tanker (which is possible, I've no idea) then they're all selling the same product, otherwise special claims of their performance/cleanliness/difference from others would be false advertising? You must see them arrive, I presume you could have a chat to them about it?.... 😀 please?

wetgrassagain, either you are well off or you don't do 600 miles/week otherwise you would be a little concerned about your mpg

Quite right, I am not particularly well off but only drive on average 10,000 miles a year - I work from home so am not really bothered about mpg.

But I feel better for coming out - I ride bikes AND drive a BMW. I know many of you are BMWphobic on here and your remarks about driving skills sometimes bring a tear to my eye, but dammit it is time to stand up and be up front about my dirty secret, my parents know and whilst disappointed they understand - they said I was always a little different, perhaps less sensitive than the average and too keen to push to the front of queues but hey, I can live with that.

I know many of you on here like Skodas and diesel cars but surely a little variety is OK in today's cosmopolitan society?

 

All the normal diesel and petrol is the same across the board that goes out from Grangemouth. The special stuff I honestly do not know they get that (maybe that stuff is brought up special because they do not sell a lot of it compared to the normal fuels). or maybe it is an additive that they blend in the tanker so as to speak. The next time I speak to one of the tankfarm boys I will try and find out.

finally, i understand why so many people think STW is ridiculous...

a little variety is OK in today's cosmopolitan societ

When there's a carbon police, I want to be chief inspector. Then there'll be a big scandal when they find out how much air travel I am responsible for 🙁

51 out of my Passat TDI 130, but in the winter on a long slow drive drafting lorries on the motorway I got 62. Well chuffed, but haven't been able to repeat it. 🙂

I run a 130 diesel mondeo too and get 50mpg give or take a bit
fortunately the closest petrol staion is also the cheapest in the area and a shell one at that

wife's 'family car' cmax eco whatever petrol 1.8 does 30mpg on average

my mk5 golf gti does 30mpg on average.....

similar journeys....

wtf ?????

i just put petrol in my car when it runs low i have no idea what mpg i get and to be honest i dont care tho i only really use it to go biking

does this make me a bad person

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_T ]Ford Model T[/url] got up to 21mpg... hasn't been much in the way of progress has there 😆

Best I've had recently from my 110ps Octavia 1.9 TDi on a motorway run from North Wilts to South Mimms, around 122 miles, was 63.8, according to the dash computer. Just filled up, and my last tankfull gave me 501 miles. My lamented Puma, on the other hand used to deliver 330/tank, or 270 with the Thule roofbars on. Love diesels.

I hope Brant wasn't joking.

Solo.

Mind you, you have a Landy (albeit a Disco), so you get some karma back.

Nowt wrong with Discovery still made by the Green Gods of LANDROVER , N WON'T PART WITH MY V8 FOR NO ONE,RUNS ON LPG TOO ,SO ECO WARRIORS CAN SNIFF ME EXHAUST ANY TIME.!!!!!!!!

Driving style does have a lot to do with it. Twenty years ago when i was doing 50k miles/pa, my boss actually called me in to his office just to ask me how i was averaging 43mpg in the Petrol 1.9L Peugeot 405 they'd given me. I used to drive at 80mph plus on motorways ans fastish on rural A roads (60 plus). The difference between me and others is i drive smooth! Jerking gears, foot down at all times and stamping on brakes kills your fuel economy, brakes, tyres and your health.

It never ceases to amaze me how slow drivers can waste so much fuel. Their non-fluid driving style creates conjestion and generally screws up my drive. For this reason i always opt to drive when the roads are at their clearest these days.

My 2001 1.9L 130bhp Audi A6 is supposed to achieve 65mpg on a run. It can easily achieve this so long as you drive smooth. Speed doesn't seem to make a massive diiference.

The trip computer is lame. Sometimes i can get it showing in excess of 80 mpg when driving sedately, but the figures is always seem to calculate around 62~63mpg (approx. 70% long runs 30% short semi rural runs).

Can't imagine any other large estate bettering that!

Yachts are my ideal mode of transport however;
MPG = Zero
Number of people impeding your progress = zero
Numbers of speed cameras = zero
Agressive idiots = zero
Alcohol limit = unlimited
Officious rule enforcers in open waters = zero

im doing 24000 miles a year at the moment.

had to sell my passat as it was only doing an average of 32mpg (onboard computer saying 39mpg??)

got a diesel cmax now and its getting between 48mpg(nailing it) and 62 mpg sitting at 55-60 mph!!

Current overall average on my 130 tdi Passat is 48.3, consisting of mainly short (14 mile) runs to work. 173K on the clock.
My next car WILL be a Passat.

Kin'ell

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I do bucket loads of miles and get 32mpg according to both the computer and the measuring and calculating method. Not good 🙁 I also seem to be eating tyres at the moment too... had the car 18 months and am about to get my second set of rears (the fronts got changed at the same time when the car was 9 months old, mainly as I didn't like them, but I think I will get another 9 months before they need changed).

Even my old 220bhp Saab didn't eat tyres like this 120bhp Suzuki Vitara!

I will be running out of warranty soon, so hopefully will be allowed to change it in another 18 months! So long as the company accounts are looking healthy! Not sure what to go for though - I use the 4x4 bits and bobs and like the additional ground clearance for farm tracks and fields. Just can't reconcile myself with the environmental disaster zone that the vehicle is! Perhaps I should get a second hand, private, estate car or something. Alternative is the Hybrid Pug 3007 that is being talked about for launch in around the right time frame (and with 68mpg that would be very, very tempting indeed!)

a rather aggrevated, quick paced to parked on the m25 charge from mid wales to essex this weekend and back for a wedding function earned 52.5mpg out the mondeo for some pretty unsmooth grumpy driving

still enough fuel in the tank for driving to work all week 🙂