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Have built my self a new hidey-hole which I plan to use as my place of work.
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(Looks slightly different now as it has a proper roof)
I need to have it wired in by a proper sparkie as adding an external circuit is a notifiable mod to the electrics. I was wondering how much of this I can do myself - can I put the catenary up, route all the cables and just have him come in & do the termination at each end, or do they need to do the whole lot?
Slightly related - naturally I'm planning to heat it with a woodburner which I plan to install myself. Do the building regs extend to workshops & garages & if so will I have to get this inspected as well?
nice shed... how much ?
All in (kit, insulation, base, internal cladding) £2 grand.
I was wondering how much of this I can do myself
You can do it all and just get BC to test and approve it.....
Ouch... I wasn't expecting mine to come in at that..
How much was the base mate ? Concrete ?
Nice snowboard bench btw
hot_fiat - MemberInterlocking grids. They were £165 & I had a couple of hundred kilo of gravel lying around
thanks mate. I was wondering about them jobbies instead of concrete too actually.
In terms of the electrics you can do all of it of none of it. It sounds like you want a middle ground which is a bit trickier. If you do it all yourself you pay building control to sign it off (but you need to inform them before starting). The cost of this could well be as much as getting a pro in. If you get a pro in he needs to do all the work to self certify it. You might be able to find a friendly one who will let you do some donkey work but you need to discuss that first. A third option is to get a pro in to install the new circuit and one socket and sign it off. You can then extend that circuit as a DIYer but I doubt there will be much saving.
How are your current electrics for the house (pun intended)? Do you have a spare way in you CU? You'll need RCD protection. It might be that they can't add a circuit without doing some other work
I need a new CU in the house as the incumbent one was installed by Edison himself and amended to by the [s]total electrical imbecile who single-handedly justifies all of the part P regs[/s] previous owner
Bolts through all hinges reinforce doors internally, builders and to secure roof, alarm and venetian blinds to stop people loking in at night,
Then more insualtion in roof apex,dont forget wood burners require ventilation so firt a CO2 detector .
You might be able to find a friendly one who will let you do some donkey work but you need to discuss that first.
This worked for me doing my garage. We discussed what was required then I fixed in all the conduit, back boxes, light units, etc and fed in the cables (to his spec) leaving tails for the sparky to work with. He came back and connected it all up and tested. Saved me a chunck of labour doing the 'donkey work' myself and cheaper than doing it myself all and going through building control.
Slightly related - naturally I'm planning to heat it with a woodburner which I plan to install myself. Do the building regs extend to workshops & garages & if so will I have to get this inspected as well?
I did this a few years ago in a similar building. It wasn't to regs. I don't there is a need for non permanent outbuildings.
There's a thread [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/diy-wood-burning-stove-help ]here[/url] that I made at the time.
Slightly related - naturally I'm planning to heat it with a woodburner which I plan to install myself. Do the building regs extend to workshops & garages & if so will I have to get this inspected as well?
I seriously wouldn't bother with an inspection for a stove in a shed.
Download the regs and install it to them, it's not hard.
Although it's not going to be cheap as you will need a lot of twin wall. You will also have to position 600mm from combustibles, so you need a fair bit of space. Or are you going to line the nearby walls with something?
a CO2 detector
No. A CO detector! 🙂
In that case you'll likely be getting a spark in anyway. They will have to test all your existing circuits before fitting a new CU so there might be a load of remedial work. It'll give you time to get friendly with him over doing some of the work on the shed installI need a new CU in the house
Have already fitted hinge bolts, coach-bolts for the windows and door hinges. Roof has 50mm of jablite and thermawrap sandwiched between the outer and the internal cladding. Walls are thermawrapped. Am extending the house alarm out there which will include the interlinked fire and CO alarm.
I'll be tiling below & behind the stove. The flue will have to be twinwall though. Reckoning on another grand for the stove and installation kit.
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Slightly related - naturally I'm planning to heat it with a woodburner which I plan to install myself.
To be completely honest with you, you'd be better of heating that with an oil filled rad on a timer.
The stove will take up more room than you think, turn that shed into a sauna and it be difficult to control the heat.
Sometimes being niche is just not practical when you sit back and think about it for a few mins.
Spend £50 on a rad and save the £950.
Do you need armoured cable for the power supply from the house?
I have some going cheap in Southampton. Check out my shed thread.
turn that shed into a sauna
I don't think that's right.
A stove produces very dry heat.
The flue will have to be twinwall though.
You will probably want a short length of stove pipe to help the flue draw.
A stove produces very dry heat.
OT: And so does a sauna (until you chuck water on the heater thing)
Either way my money is on it being way too hot.
You might be right. I had a 1.2kw heater running in there for about an hour on Friday night. Turned the place into a right heat box. Smallest stove I've seen is rated at 4kw. You are my dad and I claim my inheritance.
It looks great. What size is it, and are you planning any partition walls? Just curious about the layout etc!
I've stayed in a couple of wooden 'sheds' on campsites, and they've been pleasantly warm. They had a wee wall-mounted electric heater, and it kept the place very snug in winter. Perhaps they were of different construction, but I can't see yours being any colder if it's insulated.
a CO2 detector
No. A CO detector!
Just testing
Small thermostatic fan heater or thermostically controlled oil filled rad, cheap at the moment from screwfix, also place it under a shelf, and it throws heat outwards and not up, and little chance of a fire starting compared to a wood burner.
Oh and you can move it round as well.
what insulation have you gone for on the roof?
I am just working out the insulation for my 16x10 workshop. Was planning a wood burner but as I have a 2kw oven in there for testing parts I may as well just insulate it well and then turn the oven on for a bit.
Line it with insulating plasterboard, and as said, an oil filled rad. Your biggest prob insulation-wise will be the windows I'd imagine.
My 8x4m workshop is only heated with a fan heater.... Wood stove seems overkill (too slow to heat up, takes up too much space).
Roof insulation is a mix of 50mm jablite (fire resistant polystyrene sheet) and thermawrap (aluminised bubble wrap), along with the 31mm of timber, roofing paper and felt.
It's 2.5x2.8m inside. Windows are double glazed.

