MegaSack DRAW - This year's winner is user - rgwb
We will be in touch
Yeah, there are quotas to fill. I'll claim a space on that basis too bring of non-UK origin (admittedly having to go back a generation )
Being half Welsh and half Irish I tried for the Celtic Dragon roar. Unfortunately after I came out it sounded like 'meeeoiouw'. And I'm not that good with cats. Go figure.
As for the idiots bit - can you let me know where the forms are please? I've got me marker pen handy.
He will be back, anyone who acts like he does cant have many friends in the real world.
AdamW forget the forms - You're hired!
Which outfit do you want? Clubber's having the native American... I'd really like the construction worker...
Harry, sorry you'll just have to choose from what's left.
LOLLERCOPTERS at the deleted posts.
Yay! Always wanted to be the Injun chief 🙂
Flouncing is soooo last year...[url= http://www.mlehworld.com/mleh2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3068 ]http://www.mlehworld.com/mleh2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3068[/url]
To emsz and the other mleh visitors. I can understand your reluctance to hang around. Mleh is a small and very close-knit group, as a result of which we all tend to know each others humour and triggers. It's a bit like a family. Have a look on the "classified" section and you'll mostly see stuff being exchanged or given away free. Posting on a thread which was basically "I'm a noob - come slag me" was never going to give you a taste of it. In short, feel free to pop in occasionally and say hi!
This thread has achieved considerable awesome even without the Fount of All Awesome being among us.
Adam is to be commended particularly. 🙂
As a confirmed Matt hater, & I have the warning to prove it, the bloke has an inferiority complex! I'm sure he has a lot to add to the forum, we all do, but when you build yourself up that much, there is only one way to go & that's down.
If people really think matt is as wealthy as he makes out to be, ask some questions, but then wealth, is as most things, is in the eye of the beholder.
iDave - Member
he can only mention some of his awesome exploits because he's done them, unlike, I suspect, many of the derelicts who hound him. a lot of big jealous kids around this interweb thing.
Really? He's done everything?
Anyway, re flouncing, I have! My biggest flounce was to suggest STW make the forum two tier, paying members got one thing, plebs got something different. I nearly left after that, several emails between me & STW about how it would never happen, a few years later we have the beginning of a two tier system, money is money after all...
Cheers.
Napoleon complex.
Anyway, hey, it's BigDummy 🙂
Enough of Surf Matt - when will we see the return of Mark Datz?
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he can only mention some of his awesome exploits because he's done them, unlike, I suspect, many of the derelicts who hound him. a lot of big jealous kids around this interweb thing.
The people who slag off Matt are not jealous of him. They are mostly ridiculing his uber competitive attitude.
The thing I like about STW is that there are lots of people who've done and do incredible things but they don't go on about it, and you only get a few hints on certain threads. We know exactly Mat's achievements, qualifications, job and lifestyle. Hmm 🙂
... sounds like jealousy to me molgrips. It's okay to want to be Awesome you know 😉
Yeah, there are quotas to fill. I'll claim a space on that basis too bring of non-UK origin
Nope you can't do that... This is my space
/vader voice/ do you know who the **** I am /vader voice/
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The thing I like about STW is that there are lots of people who've done and do incredible things but they don't go on about it
Yeah I am one of them
I wear pink gloves you know...
However i did add sexual acquaintances (he awesome swear filter avoidance) my rather large ladies (at least larger than I am) does it makes me awesome or just someone feeding the troll I am still wondering.
Some people are born awesome, some achieve awesomeness, and some have awsomeness thrust upon them
[b]Thrust[/b]. What a great word...
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he can only mention some of his awesome exploits because he's done them, unlike, I suspect, many of the derelicts who hound him. a lot of big jealous kids around this interweb thing.
Except that some of his exploits aren't actually quite as awesome as he makes out - he keeps it quiet that he does events with various length races where the top guys are doing the longer ones...
Of course there are plenty on here with more impressive race and adventure CVs than SM - it's just that most of them tend to keep it (relatively) quiet.
Coyote - Member
He voiced an opinion and the usual gobshites suspects roared in raising their voices until he flounced off.
Seems to be getting more common on here these days. Agree with the hive mind or you will be ridiculed into oblivion. Definitely getting less pleasant on here.
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Sums it up perfectly. Too many follow leads rather than their own beliefs on here, too many steadfastly refuse to admit when they are wrong. But the few 'normal' people make it a nice place to be. I have had my disagreements with Matt but at the same time he is big enough to listen to another side to an argument. He's one of the people on here I'd buy a drink for and happily chat face to face.
Maybe we should just have a mass willy waving session, and then finally get an official ranked list of awesomeness for all STWers. That could sort out a few problems (maybe).
Wunundred!!! 🙂
*waves at RealMan*
Maybe we should just have a mass willy waving session, and then finally get an official ranked list of awesomeness for all STWers. That could sort out a few problems (maybe).
Hold on... Does biggest or smallest win?
Its not the size of course, its how well you can wave it.
TSY is in the lead by the way.
*goes into full helicopter for RealMan*
Yep, those are soap suds! 😉
I would chat with him face to face of course - most of the issues we have on here are because we're not face to face. I'm sure there would be no fights if everyone on STW were in the same pub.
It is pretty shitty that Mat is being laid into, even tho he is not here.
While I like a STW mob as much as the next person.....this just seems...well...too much.
And I am saying that as someone who was on the receiving end of Mat's vitriol.
*waves TSY at RealMan*
And I am saying that as someone who was on the receiving end of Mat's vitriol.
To be fair tho, I think he had a point on that occasion.
*gets dizzy, wants to go to bed*
To be fair tho, I think he had a point on that occasion
On which occasion?
Sorry, that was a joke 😉
Don't be sorry. Probably had a valid point 😉
cant see the point in flouncing or deliberately laying into anyone.
The whole point of the forum is to get input from as many people as possible, 1 less will harm the breadth of experience here.
A clash of egos trying to get the last word has resukted in some silly repetitive threads and upset.
I try never to lay into him. I just try to point out where the problems are coming from. Doesn't work mind.
You try to tell him where the problems are coming from *in your opinion*....
i like him 🙂 everyone has their passions, Mat must see cars as one of his.
the guy has survived this long with the amount of abuse he gets from strangers, takes some strength.
How about this for an action plan.....
1. S-M Return to forum.
2. We are all a bit nicer to each other.
It's a crazy plan but it might just work...
a forum where people ride AND are nice to each other? i gotta be honest... that's "MTB Britain forum" I'd say.
I have had my disagreements with Matt but at the same time he is big enough to listen to another side to an argument.
What???
STW member(s) - SM it's dangerous to tap your brake lights like that
SM - I'm a member of the IAM, you have loads of points on your license, can't drive, car is crap etc.
STW member(s) - That's not the point SM. Tapping your brake light isn't left foot braking, it's just dangerous
SM - I'm a member of the IAM and have had hours of training. You are all crap and can't drive. You pick on me.
STW member(s) - But what you said to do and what you claimed it were are two different things.
SM - I'm off. flouncy flouncy flouncy.
That pretty much sums it up to me.
What about the worst snow car thread where he tried to one-up people by having the worst snow car.
Odd character, met many like him on forums before, met a couple from the forums in real life and they are much the same.
Nice?... NICE... [b]NICE!?![/b]
I just did a little bit of sick in my mouth.
*gets dizzy, wants to go to bed*
she used to be on STW amd Mleh too 🙂
Which forum is she on now RD? She sounds nice! 😀
none which can be linked to here without a ban!
*runs at the merest hint of spending more time in the wilderness*
Dilbert seems appropriate.
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fair do - I used to be as popular as surf matt on an old forum I used to visit.
Dont really matter what people saying about you - as long as they are talking about yous.
Awesome!
I gave up reading anything posted by surfmat after his chassis clanger - his "flounce" is quite amusing though.
I'm sure his towering ego (or insecurity) is put in a flat spin by the thought of a 4 page thread JUST ABOUT HIM. I bet you could see that willy waving in Cornwall all the way from John O'Groats. Awesome.
Quirrel - perhaps he felt cornered on that thread and was angry at the way the 'hive mind' was feeding at his carcass.
He's reading this.
Flouncers always do.
One day, he will read something and slip up and have to post......unless he is a serious flouncer, then they randomise their password and then setup a new email address that has a randomized password to it. Don't write it down and a true flounce has occured.
Quirrel - perhaps he felt cornered on that thread and was angry at the way the 'hive mind' was feeding at his carcass.
Perhaps he didn't like having it pointed out to him that what he has said was wrong and dangerous.
I don't think that thread was much in the way of attacking (I did, but that was more on the dangerous side of his comment than him personally).
Most of that thread is a discussion about LFB and SBZ pointing out that he could teach SM if he can afford it.
I'd forgot we were talking about Mat.
Mat when you return, make sure you play this....
Awesome!
I would just like to add, after I said previously that I'm a 'hater' (seems a bit strong re-reading it), that I'm sure in the real world he's a nice enough fellow, it's just he's a bit misunderstood on here 😉
As has been said, I'm sure if we all met in a social situation we would all get on & buy each other a beer, well I would happily buy Matt a beer anyway.
Cheers.
There's only one person on here I might think twice about buying a beer 8)
There's only one person on here I might think twice about buying a beer
Awww, c'mon! You can't say that without letting us know who it is!
Heh. Avid forumites will know as I have made it clear 🙂
Jesus H Christ, you're telling me I need to spend more time on here?!
Well aint you a sorry bunch ?.
Pulling someone apart for the sake of it. Like you lot are perfect.
This thread is a prime example of what is wrong with this place, you show it and yourselves, at its worst.
I hope SM is out on his bike, I hope he's having a good time, without childish online character discetion.
Poor show here, you really have let yourselves down, or maybe not...
Jesus H Christ, you're telling me I need to spend more time on here?!
Here is a clue.
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Ahh, that was going to be my guess, Michael Caine is a prat at the end of the day.
You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off
Gimme a break I just wanna enjoy a quiet pint!
Lol at Jamie. In one!
🙂
Compared to some of the freaks on here he struck me as relatively normal - just seems to be unable to .take any criticism and just wouldn't let it lie. There does seem to be an increasing amount of bullying going on on here recently 🙁
Where's elfinsafety when you need him...
Compared to some of the freaks on here .... does seem to be an increasing amount of bullying
Where do I claim my £5?
As someone with a 'fan club' of my own on here, I have to say that Surf Mat needs to develop a thicker skin if he wants to continue enjoying using internet forums. Speshly if you're gonna be an outspoken opinionated character.
I've crossed swords with Mat a few times, and find him a bit naive and ignorant on certain matters. Maybe he thinks similar of me, I dunno. But I din't find him a hateful character, and I think he contributed a lot of positive stuff as well, and did seem to want to be helpful to others.
Moist people are actually probbly pretty much like their online personas, as faking it would actually be quite difficult over time, I'd imagine. You'd slip up eventually. There's playing up for effect, and actually lying, but quite a bit of difference in between.
As for 'insecure and lacking in self esteem' I think that could be levelled at loads of people on here. But why should it be seen as something so negative? Jeeze, we've all got our own issues. So what if someone isn't perfect? Who is?
I just take it with a pinch of salt these days. I've had heated arguments with folk on here, then got on great with them in real life. Life's too short to go round hating and bearing grudges. You're never going to agree with everyone, just accept that we're all individuals and think differently about stuff.
I've learned not to get so wound up by stuff on here. Water off a duck's back these days, if people try to goad me. I just try to imagine why they are doing what they're doing, and analyse my own behaviour too. Not always easy, and people aren't always all that self-aware. The forum can act like a barometer of your own mood and tension; it's helpful to read stuff back sometimes, see where things might have been a little better handled. A recent dabble on another forum (yes I know, I'm sorry) revealed that quite a number of folk can't manage introversion, and look to externalise their own anxieties by attacking others. At first I found it amusing, then I started actually feeling sorry for some folk, one in particular. I concluded that I'd been a bit sadistic, and perhaps should have backed off sooner, as it became clear that one person was genuinely angry and wound up. It's not nice to do that to others, and I regret the whole affair tbh.
See, it's not just the internets; a forum like this is a community, which people want to belong to. There's real human beings at the end of each telephone cable. So what if they have big egos? So what if they're insecure? So what if they don't measure up to our own exacting standards? Are you perfect?
Look within, before you judge others.
There does seem to be an increasing amount of bullying going on on here recently
It's the time of year but people also need to realise when it's appropriate to back off/take a little walk.
I wouldn't describe it as bullying though - male PMT more like. 😉
Stop it elf, before it's too late!
You'll be hugging that nice chap who sells photocopiers next 🙂
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He seemed like a fairly sound character but he was easy to take the piss out of. Hopefully he'll be back.
I think that he should take himself a little less seriously and enjoy the forums for what they are. I would like to say, however, that in this case I think there was some validity in his argument and those who condone tailgating and then saw fit to bully him should be ashamed of yourselves
Oh come on, bullying is a bit of an overstatement.
He was one of the most argumentative people I've ever seen on an internet forum and an expert at winding people up (possibly unintentionally though).
And yes, some of you might happily buy him a pint in real life, but you'd soon be furtively looking around for someone else to talk to as he regaled you with stories about how awesome he is.
Stop the soul searching and get on with your lives.
hugging!? pffft, doesnt go far enough to showing him our undying love... i've got a new "i love working for shibbo" tattoo 😆
That tag is [i]not[/i] Awesome! 😕
bullying is a bit of an overstatement
Said by someone who's never experienced it......
I would like to say, however, that in this case I think there was some validity in his argument and those who condone tailgating and then saw fit to bully him should be ashamed of yourselves
I think you need to re-read the thread in question. Very little condoning of tailgating, lots of people quite rightly pointing out that flashing your brakelights at a tailgater is dangerous.
If that was bullying then anybody who's ever been wrong on here and attempted to maintain their position in the face of people pointing out how they are wrong has been bullied. If it felt like bullying to him then maybe he needs to have a good look at his own on-line persona and wind his neck in a bit.
I love you M_F.
There is nobody on here who I wouldn't have a drink with.
Very little condoning of tailgating, lots of people quite rightly pointing out that flashing your brakelights at a tailgater is dangerous.
Anyone who pulls over to let a tailgater through is accepting that tailgating is an acceptable way to move through traffic and therefore condoning the action. The person who is tailgating is the one who is driving dangerously and who should have received the full weight of STW bravado and vitriol. If the tailgater can not react in sufficient time because I've checked my brakes on seeing a child/animal/or something else and they provoke an accdent, it is 100% their fault. End.
Nothing is ever 100% one persons fault though.
If it felt like bullying to him then maybe he needs to have a good look at his own on-line persona and wind his neck in a bit.
Maybe, but then maybe if people can see someone is getting wound up, then back off. I've had a tete a tete with Mat, but I can see how winding someone up isn't really nice. Maybe it feels good to goad someone if they've annoyed you, but then why does it? All about egos, in't it? I've realised that my own ego can be fragile at times, and that I feel a need to 'win' an argument, but then I don't pretend to be perfect. I can at least identify this within myself, and take a step back. I think many people would benefit from doing the same really.
So yeah, maybe Mat is being a bit oversensitive, but then why not take a moment to think about why he is like that? We don't know about his real life situation; maybe he's having a difficult time, and getting one over others on here helps him feel a bit better about himself. No it's not the best way to deal with things, but maybe it's the way Mat deals with it. Maybe it's the only way he can deal with things. Being nasty to someone isn't going to help them, is it? It's only going to perpetuate the bad feeling and negativity.
I think it's important to try and understand why people are the way they are, and moderate our behaviour accordingly. Maybe, someone can act like a dick at first, but then with a bit of understanding and compassion for others, thy can change.
We have a responsibility not just to ourselves, but too others too. Otherwise Society collapses.