[Closed] Why do women wear make up ?

We're a very natural house hold, i cut my own hair, shave sometimes, don't wear clothes that are too fashionable. My wife doesn't wear too much make up and doesn't need to imo.

But we still care about certain things, she'll put on a bit of make up if we're going out and i won't take the kids to the swimming pool unless my back has been defuzzed!!

He's not necessarily right as such, that's his view, but to a point I agree I guess having thought about it. Although I think the level of how much we care varies greatly. Some people just don't care enough to want to impress others with make-up, nice clothes, clean cars etc

REGARDLESS of what you say otherwise why would you buy decent clothes, worry about dirty on your car, your windows looking clean on your house etc etc?

Regardless of what others think, I buy cheap clothes/charity shop clothes, only occasionally worry about the car dirt for safety/corrosion reasons (do clean the inside more often for a number of reasons) - clean house windows in order to get a good view outside/sparkly feeling.

But I agree we all care to some degree what others think. I was raised in a family absorbed with the notion that they are mercilessly judged by others on their clothing, lawn length and car washing standards - I must have broken the mould as (apart from good hygiene) don't generally give much of a toss what others judge me on regarding fashion/bike brand/sparkling car etc. NB: This has grown increasingly true with advancing age! I have (I think) observed a sliding scale of projection in people - whereby those who judge others minutely imagine that others in turn judge them in similar fashion, while those who don't tend to judge so much on appearance likewise don't imagine themselves judged harshly for same. It's true also that individuals concerned more with utility (function over fashion) are often judged as 'weird' or creepy by the more fashionable.

Mine's a Babycham.

Hey - I'LL have a Babycham...

There was something going on across the road the other day. You should've seen the visitors - glowing like radioactive waste pipes and about as natural as a tube of mastic

And that was just the blokes! Boom tish

But everyone cares what others thinks.

why would you buy decent clothes

worry about dirty on your car

your windows looking clean on your house

That's the point though I think, they don't have to. Anyone, male or female, comfortable in their own skin that doesn't care what others think wouldn't feel the need to try and improve their appearance.

For pretty much all of human history we've altered and adorned the ourselves, the things we wear, the things we own and the places where we live. Whats the point of the Nascar lines? Whats the point of the paint on your car, or your bike or in your living room? And whats the point of the paint you choose being different to the paint you might have chosen 10 or 20 or 50 years ago?

Altering your appearance isn't about trying to hide who you are its about wanting to project what you like and projecting what you want to be a part of - even if what you are projecting is conformity,or anonymity, or even if what you want to project is 'i don't care what you think'.

To people who say they don't care what other people think, it's just wrong, we all do, even if it is on a subconscious level.

Imagine if everywhere you went people s****ed at you, due to the way you dressed, or your hair, or the way you spoke. It's inevitable that at some stage you would alter some aspect of whatever was causing the ridicule/amusement.

That doesn't make you a narcissist, just human.

So someone who wears cheap clothes and doesn't wear make-up or have a fancy 'do is trying to project an 'I don't care what you think' image? Perhaps they're not trying to project anything, they just have more important things to worry about?

I'll have a spritzer.

The amount we care about what others think varies greatly, no doubt. I'm at the end of the scale where I largely don't care, but I can't deny feeling a bit self-conscious about my body when at the swimming pool in only my swimming shorts, for example. I do believe though that there are individuals out there that truly don't care at all about what others think

"And whats the point of the paint you choose being different to the paint you might have chosen 10 or 20 or 50 years ago?"

Let's test your hypothesis:

My bedroom :

20 years ago, because it was what it was, I was renting short term and didn't really stay in much or give a flying fig, nope, not even about woodchip. Never occurred to me that others may care about it either.

Today - some kind of claret red that I find relaxing and darkens the room, all other walls are magnolia, still renting!

As for bikes, I have a dusky pink Raleigh Apex, a silver Batavus, A bronze Raleigh, raw Ti Litespeed, Brown Raleigh Twenty, half-metallic green Kona (other half hastily patched up with a different green spray after rust spot removal) and a silver Genesis. I don't like silver as a colour in general.

They are the colour they came in. I once hand-painted a bike by brush with loads of imagery that meant a lot to me, but can't say that it all was to impress my personality upon others, maybe a degree, the larger motive being I wanted to do something awesome with my bike - I'm really quite self absorbed with bikes! As someone who paints, colour is vastly important to purvey a feeling or impression - but as someone who rides bikes, they are generally just the colour they come in. Only new bike I remember buying with a colour I loved was an orange diamondback, but that was the colour of that year for the bike I wanted, not really my choice. I once powder coated a bike in drab green because it looked unfussy to my eyes. This is all very confusing. Do I have Asperger's?

Perhaps they're not trying to project anything, they just have more important things to worry about?

This +1. My 'sliding scale of projection' hypothesis!

Imagine if everywhere you went people s****ed at you, due to the way you dressed, or your hair

You're talking to a man with advanced male pattern balding' no imagining (or rug) required 😉

...It's inevitable that at some stage you would alter some aspect of whatever was causing the ridicule/amusement. That doesn't make you a narcissist, just [s]human[/s] bullied into conformity.

Fixed.

Egads this is very interesting topic, time to get back to work!

That doesn't make you a narcissist, just human/ bullied into conformity.

Fixed.

Hmmm. I'd stick with human.

We've evolved as a social species, and we are the descendents of humans that were successful at living in groups and exploiting the benefits.

So we have a lot of drivers in our genetic makeup to want to belong, to modify our behaviour, to import values and tastes of those around us, and to avoid behaviour that would ostracise us from the group.

I find it interesting the comments here, that say men "not" shaving are making a statement of some sort. Beards are not a fashion thing they grow out of your skin in an entirely natural process. Shaving is unatural. The only statement I make by not shaving is "I can't be arsed shaving!" and you only have to watch one Gillete ad to have that reinforced IMO.

As to the make up thing - if it suits you then great get it on.

I'm a 'reet scruffy git and IDGAF.

I also find the layers of makeup males and females use pretty repulsive, [i]especially[/i] the orange stuf, LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL.

Other opinions are available.

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NASCAR lines!?

hora - Member

But everyone cares what others thinks.

REGARDLESS of what you say otherwise why would you buy decent clothes, worry about dirty on your car, your windows looking clean on your house etc etc?

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I guess the bigger questions are "why don't men wear make up" and "when did we stop using it" because we haven't gotten any better looking over the ages!

For me - a psychological reason: wearing make up differentiates me from some of the client group I work with, who don't wear make up.

The psychology intrigues/confuses me... I used to work with a lady who wore so much makeup, she looked like a kitchen appliance. She used to complain about how long it took to get ready to leave the house every day... One day, she was late, or couldn't find the trowel, or something and came in (her words) "no makeup" or (anyone else's words) a sort of averagey/slightly more than averagey amount of makeup. And she looked pretty amazing tbh, but she spent all day almost cringing and fretting about how she looked and ended up running out at lunch to the chemist to get more plaster. At which point, she looked like Robocop again.

It's her face to with as she wants, I reckon, but it all seemed pretty damn weird.

DanW - Member

I guess the bigger questions are "why don't men wear make up"

Speak for yourself!

I don't use moisturiser or hair gel. I don't have tattoos. I don't care too much what people think about the way I look (too old for that shit). But I won't be seen drinking beer out of plastic or a jug with a handle. That would give the wrong impression. Straight sided glass please.

Malvern Rider - Member

My OH has nice skin tone so doesn't need makeup

Out of interest ... what skin tones do you feel 'need' makeup?

tinribz - Member
Have you not seen pron stars without makeup?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/05/porn-stars-without-make-up-before-after_n_3393980.html

It must be all that extra moisturiser they use that makes them look so different in photos.

You don't have to be blonde to be beautiful; you have to be the [i]right[/i] shade of blonde.
Munters, the lot of them!

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In times gone by, men used to wear make-up not women. In nature it's normally the male (ie, peacock, blackbird, baboon, lion) that are more showy.

I can't be the only guy here that paints his nails sometimes? Usually just one or two.

It's culturally acceptable and it can make you appear more attractive than you actually are by accentuating your natural appearance or detracting from, or disguising your imperfections. That's about it, no great mystery.

Well yeh. I think everyone gets that bit.

But as we all know it's false, why accept the delusion?

" When I was in my 20's, I worried about what everyone thought about me,
When I was in my 40's, I didn't care what everyone thought about me
Now I'm in my 60's, I realise that no one was thinking about me in the first place!"

Can't remember who it was who said this, but they are correct. Not that I've yet to reach my 6th decade, I'm just ahead of the curve 😉

Make up Sir?

Recruit: But sir, the danger, and the glory of death. A young and dashing life gone up in flames. Blonde maidens weeping. To die for one's country. To set forth in a silver lance to joust with the forces of darkness.

Officer: They don't always crash you know.

Recruit: It would be an honour to crash in such a plane.

Officer: To be mangled and scorched?

Recruit: To be hideously mutilated beyond the recognition of one's own mother.

Officer: Is that makeup you're wearing?

Recruit: No sir.

Officer: Are you sure that's not makeup.

Recruit: Makeup sir?

Officer: Makeup. Makeup. You know what makeup is. It's what ladies wear.

Recruit: Not all ladies wear makeup sir.

Officer: Well what's that black stuff around your eyes. Is that mascara?

Recruit: All right. I can see it's no good lying to you. I confess. It is mascara. Only a little bit.

Officer: What on Earth for?

Recruit: It's my mother sir.

Officer: Your mother?

Recruit: You see my mother was the first woman to fly the Atlantic in a (pause) Gaseo Glider.

Officer: A Gaseo Glider?

Recruit: A machine of my father's invention. You see he was too much of a professional aeronautical inventor to actually fly it himself, so my mother took it, and tried to fly it singlehanded across the Atlantic.

Officer: What happened?

Recruit: She...she crashed. Spun down into the sea and was never seen again. They found only her false eyelashes, floating. And so, you see, ever since I have worn mascara in her sacred memory.

Officer: I see.

Recruit: Well sir. Do I get a plane?

Officer: In view of the confession you have just made, which must have taken a great deal of courage, I consider you an ideal type for the job. There's a plane waiting for you on the runway. The sergeant will give you an instruction manual on the way out. Oh, and by the way, Von Trippenhopf...

Recruit: Sir?

Officer: Don't let the CO catch you wearing makeup on duty. At least not in uniform, you understand.

Recruit: But sir...

Officer: Alright then. But very subtly applied is that clear?

Recruit: I understand sir.

Officer: Right Oh, Von Trippenhopf

Recruit: Righty Oh sir.

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So someone who wears cheap clothes and doesn't wear make-up or have a fancy 'do is trying to project an 'I don't care what you think' image?

I purposely dress down for a lot of appointments at work specifically to avoid the typical bullshit questions I would get asked if I were wearing a suit. People treat me like a nobody, I act like a nobody and get my work done 3 times as quickly and go home earlier.

Other in the office dress 'to impress' - they use their clothing as a shield to hide the fact they are clueless and moan about working til 8pm every night

Idiots

As well as making them look (a lot) more attractive, make-up enhances their femininity. Some women without makeup look like boys.

This thread keeps on giving, haha...

Aside from the yes/no debate about makeup, what I can't stand is sticky gooey mascara clumping eyelashes together. Is the clumped look something to aim for maybe? If not - ffs, use a mirror!

Like this.. aargh!

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cinnamon_girl - Member

Why do men use hair gel?

To stop it looking like I have just gotten up and ahve bed hair (err usually as I have..) besides there is enough grey in it now as to not matter not that iiu think anyone give me a second glance (unless i'm trying to transport somethingg odd or weird by bike!)

One of the girls in the office has recently plucked her eyebrows out and had them tattooed back on but higher up. I didn't know this was a thing you could have done.

I'm now finding it difficult to talk to her without staring in amazement at her forehead, very strange.

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Whether we admit it or not, self esteem is gained from the reactions/feedback of other humans.

My self-esteem jumped immeasurably the day I realised that what other people think of me affects me in no way whatsoever and I stopped worrying about it.

I purposely dress down for a lot of appointments at work specifically to avoid the typical bullshit questions I would get asked if I were wearing a suit. People treat me like a nobody, I act like a nobody and get my work done 3 times as quickly and go home earlier.

Other in the office dress 'to impress' - they use their clothing as a shield to hide the fact they are clueless and moan about working til 8pm every night

This.

I wear a polo shirt to work where a number of my peers have taken to wearing shirt and tie. I have my job because I'm good at it, not because I look like I'm good at it. If and when I get recognition it's on skill and merit, not because I'm pretty and toadying. (Which is just as well really)