[Closed] who's gonna buy an iPad?

EDIT: ps, you can STW on it, right? RIGHT???

No I believe it only works on www2 not www.

is an i-pad for i-periods ?

There isn't an STW App yet - so no, you cannot access this forum. Only Apple Approved (R) web sites can be browsed through Apple Approved (R) Apps.

I would be seriously tempted to but the fact its more of an iphone operating system meaning you have to go through the app store rather than just installing freeware from the web does kinda put me off.

tempted, if it had flash I def would.

There isn't an STW App yet - so no, you cannot access this forum. Only Apple Approved (R) web sites can be browsed through Apple Approved (R) Apps.

Well I'm writing this on an iPod Touch with no trouble at all...

of course you can see STW on it - and the forum! as you can on an iPhone. you can go on any website except those that are totally flash.

footflap - what are you going on about with your "Apple Approved (R) web sites can be browsed" - total bollox!

pretty annoying that they won't put flash support on it tho. they're trying to kill flash - can't see it working.
If sites like bbc start using quicktime or something instead of flash video, maybe they'll succeed

and will-of-f... there's load of free apps on the app store so what's the problem?

and no sense of humour either.....

footflap - what are you going on about with your "Apple Approved (R) web sites can be browsed" - total bollox!

whoooooooooooooshhhhh

sorry - for me, humour needs to be funny

I know - humour is just lost on some people these days. You just can't get quality forum members any more.....

Um, no iBook (tm) reader either, at least for the UK. Personally, I don't really see the point unless you want to look like Dom Jolly with a giant phone.

I want a proper play with one first, but if that impresses the cheapest model looks great as a lounge-dwelling computer. Sits there as a digital photo frame most of the time, pick it up and browse on it as I tend to with my iphone at the moment, rather than sitting in front of a big monitor.

"I know - humour is just lost on some people these days" - no... and i repeat, humour needs to be funny

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Don't do it. It's worse than a laptop for using in the house (underpowered, limited iPhone-ish OS), and it's worse than an iPhone for walking around with (waaay too big). It makes no sense.

A while ago I bought a netbook -- thought it would be better for portability in the house, perhaps would keep it in the car with a dongle, under the bed, etc. Turned out to be a waste of money, it's sitting collecting dust. In the house the desktop and laptops are always close by, and the iPhone is in the pocket -- much more convenient to use one of these then boot up the sh1tty netbook. And for the outside, the iPhone -- small, comfortable, convenient, always there. It's a killer piece of kit.

Buy an iPhone. Costs a bit more (probably), but at least it has a definite useful purpose.

pretty annoying that they won't put flash support on it tho. they're trying to kill flash - can't see it working.
If sites like bbc start using quicktime or something instead of flash video, maybe they'll succeed

Youtube have a HTML5 beta site that doesn't use Flash; it's much quicker than the Flash version. I'm sure others will start replacing Flash with HTML5 too - Flash is slow and buggy, to be honest, just look at how much the ads slow down this site - in which case Apple need not care about Flash in the long run...

[i]sorry - for me, humour needs to be funny[/i]

Sound's like you'll be needing an app for that.

Um, no iBook (tm) reader either, at least for the UK.

where did you see this?

I reckon thats just initially until they sort out deals to distribute the books in the uk

Yes - I want something that is a pain to browse on (no mouse), a pain to type on (no keyboard), can only connect to what apple want me to connect to and can only run what apple want me to run and is bigger than an iphone but with the functionality of an itouch and is a wee bit delicate.

Sign me up right now 🙄

back to your cave tootall

I want one - it's my Touch on steroids, just what I've been waiting for. And if US pricing is anything to go by not the usual very high Apple pricing. I prefer my Touch to my Laptop other than the screen size. Thinks it works miles better and is more reliable.

Please let me win the Lottery tomorrow!

and will-of-f... there's load of free apps on the app store so what's the problem?

Those free apps only get to be in the app store if Apple approve of them. They can turn around any time they like and throw them off, and probably remove them remotely from your machine.

Welcome to 1984.

this is funny...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/video/2010/jan/21/chris-morris-four-lions-sundance

i think the dollar-pound conversion will be pretty upsetting.

i also think when the developers get hold of it, it'll get really interesting.
shame about the front facing camera - 30 pin plug in camera that can point both ways maybe?

They can turn around any time they like and throw them off, and probably remove them remotely from your machine.

Could they throw them off without turning around...or is the turning around integral?

luked2 - but they basically approve everything except extreme religious stuff or porn - they even approve VOIP stuff now! - I for one am happy the apps are tested. and they approve stuff in a couple of weeks max - and the developers are happy with the 70:30% split

BB - you've gotta turn around first!
- no, they can't remote wipe something.

Amazon can remotely delete books from the Kindle via the 3G link. At least with an iPhone you can choose not to upgrade and get officially cleansed. Have to see if the iPad can be jail broken - only way of unleashing the iPhones real potential (back ground Apps etc).

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back to your cave tootall

For not wanting something so limited in capability, flexibility, connectivity, interface and overall use? If that is troglodyte tendencies then I'll be in the corner trying to make fire.

Too big for one-finger-typing, too wee for a proper keyboard.

I'd be surprised if I was right and it didn't sell though, they're not known for their recent business failures...

IMO biggest problem with iPhone is battery life...so how is a super-sized tablet going to perform ? Have I missed something like some new battery technology ?

is an i-pad for i-periods ?

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Don't listen to the iHaterz (tm)

Buy one if you want one!

Personally, it doesn't do it for me at all... Performance looks too compromised for its size. Doesn't look like it moves the game on much from the iPhone or iPod touch in my view, except for in size. And then there's the fact the screen resolution, though ok for its size again, is only 1024x768... Who uses a computer at that res these days?

If you think it will work for you, why not get one... I just know it wouldn't suit me. Already have an iPhone, and a MacBookPro, and also a pretty decent spec windoze desktop too so just don't see the point personally.

Oh, and I'm not overly fond of it design wise either. I think they could have made it look a bit more "organic" (for lack of a better word), with more rounded edges and softer tones perhaps...

IMO biggest problem with iPhone is battery life...so how is a super-sized tablet going to perform ? Have I missed something like some new battery technology ?

Bigger battery one wonders?

Plenty of space in there compared to an iPhone one suspects!

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TT
I want something that is a pain to browse on (no mouse)

a mouse is not the ultimate solution for browsing - i think the demo shows its a very useful browsing environment

a pain to type on (no keyboard)

well, the iphone keyboard with auto correction is really pretty good - Jobs said about the physical keyboard - if you have to write 'war and piece'...

can only connect to what apple want me to connect to

um, what?

and can only run what apple want me to run

apart from the 120,000 apps, what is it you need?

and is bigger than an iphone but with the functionality of an itouch.

bigger is good, screen wise, yes?

and is a wee bit delicate

the unibody construction would suggest it will be pretty strong - when you used it, what felt delicate about it - I'm intrigued?

I'm going to order one when they become available. I have a £2k MBP and a £500 iphone. I'm sick of working on the MBP, then stopping work and playing on the MBP. The iPhone is just too small to do lots of web stuff on in front of the TV. £600 (estimate for 64GB/Wifi only) is cheap when I think that the only other second computer I would consider would be a MacBook or another MBP, and it would only get used for web browsing 99% of the time.

If I owned cheap £400 notebooks like the majority of people, I might think the iPad was expensive. But as it is, it's a bargain.

As for not being able to install stuff that's not in the Appstore; I manage fine on my phone with this, never wanted anything that isn't there already. The iPad is an appliance, not a computer, all the fiddly bits are hidden from the user. If I wanted to muck about installing stuff after an entire day of writing software, I would have bought another machine years ago.

IMO biggest problem with iPhone is battery life...so how is a super-sized tablet going to perform ? Have I missed something like some new battery technology ?

Well, since it's must bigger it has a much bigger battery. About 15 times as big in fact.
10 hours of use sounds pretty good to me.

Not that I'm likely to buy one. I need a proper computer and my phone does everything the iPad does (apart from having a big screen of course).

p.s. what's wrong with iphone battery life? It lasts ages.

10 hours battery - one month standby - so they say

p.s. what's wrong with iphone battery life? It lasts ages.

As a devoted iPhone user, I'll be the first one to chime in here and say the battery life is easily the weakest point with the iPhone. If I make a few calls, do a bit of web browsing, and a few other bits and bobs on it, can easily drain more than half the battery in no time in my experience. I have to charge mine every day for sure (not an issue unless you go somewhere when you've forgotten your charger!), even on standby it won't last 2 full days without dying.

Other than that, it's ace! And to be fair I'm never away from a facility to charge it should I need to really (except when out on my bike).

[i]theyEye - Member
Don't do it. It's worse than a laptop for using in the house (underpowered, limited iPhone-ish OS), and it's worse than an iPhone for walking around with (waaay too big). It makes no sense.
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wow, you were lucky to be at the event and get some hands on time with the demo units.
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I don't have an iphone any more (sold it to buy a new Nexus One, because I much prefer Android to iPhone OS), but I thought the battery life was pretty good (better than a lot of the other 'features').

Used to last me a couple of days with plenty of use and up to 4 days with minimal use.

Lasts ages !!? No way

(sent from my iPhone)

Don't do it. It's worse than a laptop for using in the house (underpowered, limited iPhone-ish OS), and it's worse than an iPhone for walking around with (waaay too big). It makes no sense.

Don't get a car. A car will be worse for carrying passengers than a bus (not enough seats, limited engine size), and it will be worse than a motorbike for driving in traffic (too big and too slow). No-one will want one.

i think iPhone uses find themselves picking up and using their iPhone a lot which gives the illusion of a bad battery - i'm not sure it's stellar, but I think the consensus is that all the smartphones are about the same.

Don't get a car. A car will be worse for carrying passengers than a bus (not enough seats, limited engine size), and it will be worse than a motorbike for driving in traffic (too big and too slow). No-one will want one.

iLike this analogy 😀

Ordinarily I try not be one of the naysayers. But in this instance I can't see it being a great success, other than the iFanbase that'll no doubt have to have one.
I do think that the iPhone being as successful as it is will mean that casual users won't super size (for want of a better way of saying). And those that are into gaming, browsing and the likes will compare with netbooks and other small devices, and not sure it'll be favourable to them without really looking into it.
Now if it had been rubbery white then it would be killer.

i must admit it made me look at my iPhone and think, wow, it's a mini iPad but with a camera!

Yes - I want something that is a pain to browse on (no mouse), a pain to type on (no keyboard),

I find browsing with my iPhone a lot easier than my laptop, and just as easy as using a mouse.

Typing is the best thing ever, I can type just as fast on my iPhone as I can on a full size computer, almost......
Took me a couple of weeks to get used to it but I love it. The ipad is something that geeks won't like as it's not the same as everything they already have (but in a different box and more ram), it's a genuinely useful thing. My wife when I told her about it thought it would be ace for us.

Big iphone without the camera or GPS. What's the point?

Big itouch that you can pull out on the train and look like a total knob. What's the point?

The bus analogy is rubbish. A laptop will do everything that an iPad will do, better, and that's the whole point. Not true for the bus.

The forte of the iPad is the format, which may be more attractive and usable, sometimes. If you're willing to blow a few hundred quid on something which MAY occassionally be more convenient than your laptop and iPhone, go for it. But my guess you'll play with it for a couple of weeks, and then it will become a really expensive paperweight.

I might buy one for the Mrs. She's a technophobe but is determined to discover what the Internets are for. I reckon this might be just the thing.

"But my guess you'll play with it for a couple of weeks, and then it will become a really expensive paperweight."

Wow - I bet you're WAY out on that! - those that buy it will use it loads.

I have an old macbook that gets used after work from 9 - 12pm every night for casual browsing, email, facebook etc - the battery's had it and it burns your legs. for us the iPad would be something that quietly gets used a LOT!

And then there's the fact the screen resolution, though ok for its size again, is only 1024x768... Who uses a computer at that res these days?

Erm.. any netbook user? e.g. Samsung NC10 (a forum favourite and one of the most popular netbooks) is only 1024x600.

battery life is easily the weakest point with the iPhone.

Agreed. Though I also agree that it's probably cos I use it so much.
Annoying bu not really a huge issue. Charger at home, charger in the car, USB cable at work, extra Kensington battery for long flights etc. Sorted. 🙂

Big iphone without the camera or GPS

I thought it had GPS? [URL= http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ ]Apple website says "Assisted GPS (Wi-Fi + 3G model)"[/URL] 😕

Big itouch that you can pull out on the train and look like a total knob. What's the point?

How would you look any more of a nob than someone using a laptop, netbook or tablet PC?

a pain to type on (no keyboard)

Yeah, imagine that, how awful. 🙄
(Sent from my iPhone)

I will be getting one, for certain. It fulfills exactly my requirements', which is something biggerer than my iPhone, that I can properly read books, magazines and newspapers on, watch movies at a decent size, see OS maps at a decent size, and browse the web, also at a decent page size. All these things I do on the phone, but the screen size is limiting sometimes. Yes, I could get a laptop, but they're bulky by comparison, and even a MacBook is going to be a fair bit heavier, and lugging my 17" PowerBook around in my bag for casual use is utterly out of the question; a 7lb fragile laptop with poor battery life by comparison? No contest. The pad in a padded case will just sit in my bag unnoticed until I need it, it's just exactly what I need.

no usb is the big kicker; pack light go to a conference, do some last minute changes to work, but then you need a laptop to sync and then put the presentation across.

for a travel/work device its too limited. that then leaves it as a web browser/video viewer, which is (more) easily done on a netbook.

robdob - Member
Typing is the best thing ever, I can type just as fast on my iPhone as I can on a full size computer, almost......

Thats great. For you. On the other hand, I can use both hands and most of my fingers when I type, which means I can use a real keyboard properly. Therefore, no comparison.

I like the unibody construction as a reason why it is of robust construction. That just means it is (essentially) not repairable and another example of poor design to satisfy disposable society. It will sell and lots of people will buy it as they 'need' it. Just like lots of people 'need' an iphone. Clever marketing indeed.

[i]I think that the only other second computer I would consider would be a MacBook or another MBP, and it would only get used for web browsing 99% of the time.[/i]

Ah I see the real reason for you getting one. A true apple fan boi.

How would you look any more of a nob than someone using a laptop, netbook or tablet PC?

Bit less of a knob, I'd say, as you will actually be doing something and not just staring out of the window waiting for the thing to boot.

Thats great. For you. On the other hand, I can use both hands and most of my fingers when I type, which means I can use a real keyboard properly.

Have you got a camera like Ti29er?

Has anyone else mentioned the inability to multi task? One thing at once - thats not really very good is it? No booting up, but one thing at a time after that. Poopy indeed.

Has anyone else mentioned the inability to multi task? One thing at once - thats not really very good is it? No booting up, but one thing at a time after that. Poopy indeed.

You're spending a lot of time and energy criticising this thing, TT. People might start to think you have an unhealthy obsession.

for a travel/work device its too limited. that then leaves it as a web browser/video viewer, which is (more) easily done on a netbook.

that's the market it's aimed at IMO. Don't really see how a netbook is easier though?

And then there's the fact the screen resolution, though ok for its size again, is only 1024x768... Who uses a computer at that res these days?

Flash support? Many sites are moving away from flash because it is bloated, particularly on OSX. And proper video support in HTML5 will show a big decline for showing video. That is when internet explorer catches up...

though ok for its size again, is only 1024x768... Who uses a computer at that res these days?

me

Thing about most of the naysayers - no matter what the tablet was like they probably wouldn't have bought one anyway - they're not the target market.

They're pitching it between an iphone and a MB(P). For anyone that can afford these, it's a cheap cool gadget and many will buy them.

Personally, I can see me replacing my MBP with one. I already have a (powerfull) desktop too, and given I can do entertainment and comms tasks on the ipad, and crucially use it to not only give, but also tweak presentations, makes it tempting.

http://www.stephenfry.com/2010/01/28/ipad-about/ has a great write up about the launch and the device itself. He touched it you know.

i wonder if you can run pirate software on it ... See what i did there pirate..ipad.. oh dear igmc 🙂

I think a case in point is Mrs Flamejob.

Me - Bit of a Mac geek; work on Macs have iPhone, TimeCapsule + 3 Airport express house, admin an OS X server etc

Her - Works on a windows network, has a posh Dell laptop for work and a Macbook which she only uses for email, browsing and photos etc. She has no interest in computers, but just wants to be able to sit on the sofa/stand in the kitchen pick something up and use it instantly.

This morning she said 'I think I'm going to give my parents my MacBook and buy one of those iPad things', with no prompting from me at all.

[i]That[/i] is the target market, not a group of tech obsessed middle aged geeks who ride bikes that make life more difficult for themselves.

The iPad is, unfortunately, the inevitable future of general computing.

Flash support? Many sites are moving away from flash because it is bloated, particularly on OSX.

but then you need a laptop to sync

Or a cloud?

http://www.stephenfry.com/2010/01/28/ipad-about.....

......He touched it you know.

...and by the way he gushes about it you would think he was fellated by it also.

Who says there's no iBook reader? I think you'll find there's an iBook app built in, and iBooks equivalent of iTunes for buying and browsing stuff from.

Or a cloud?

Ah, that wouldn't help in your case, would it? You need to plug in projectors and the like…

I think it's their biggest fail to date. Most of the 'negative' comments above I agree with.

It'll be interesting to see if the blinkered fanbois still make it a success - that'll reinforce all my unhealthy cynicism about fashion in the marketplace.

It'll be interesting to see if the blinkered fanbois still make it a success - that'll reinforce all my unhealthy cynicism about fashion in the marketplace.

Hahaha - bitterest post so far!! Consider yourself King of the Haterz!! 🙂

"Who says there's no iBook reader?"

Apple do. Only announced for the US release so far. Currently other country's pages have it conspicuously missing.

i like apple. i don't have an iPhone, but I have a macbook. think the iPad fails from an ergonomic point of view. my mac book in my lap has the screen pointing at my eyes and i can alter the angle easily - same if it's flat on a table - resting nicely with the keyboard/trackpad easy to use. an iPad on my lap will be at the wrong angle to view/use unless one hand is holding it. same if it's on a table. i still think they should have gone for a slim netbook with a decent hard drive running snow leopard. also how happy would you be chucking it in your man-bag without it being in a case - scratchy screen anyone?