Yes - will that stack up ie could it be left with no one > 100?
Yes, 100.
How are the loonies supposed to get that many MPs to nominate them? Seems very unfair.
Indeed, Tory establishment don't want another loon foisted on them
I'm guessing Morduant or Sunak, Badendoch as stalking horse
Indeed, Tory establishment don’t want another loon foisted on them
Well, the nutters haven't let us down yet so I have faith they'll manage to set up a Badenoch Sunak run off.
I'd love them to try & bring Johnson back
We could watch him go down in a cloud flod corruption, incompetence & scandal a second time!
It's about time celebrities and sportsmen/women are allowed to be prime minister. I nominate Ronnie O'Sullivan and all international relations to be decided by a frame of Snooker. If it was something really serious then it could be a best of nine. No way would Putin beat Ronnie so the Ukraine situation would never have happened. Trade deals with the US would be doddle with their ancient president, but the Chinese are pretty handy on the baize though so could be a challenge...
Tenner says they pay Elon Musk to reanimate Thatcher.
OH god, BBC, old folk still want Bojo back. FFS. Put the lot of 'em down.
Put the lot of ’em down.
He tried his best.
[ Dark humour, sorry if you were effected ]
Boris, calling a general election immediately. He'll run on a ticket of
Threat to a real Brexit from SKS
'Success' during COVID
Threat to the union from SNP
Militant unions ruining your commute and making birthday cards late.
It will nearly work too, but ultimately the FPTP system will mean a rough reversal of the majority. He'll stay in as leader of the opposition for another run at it in 2027.
That's my guess anyway.
So it's gone from no members vote at dinner time I wonder if that's why the jurnos where calling Bradly a lier to a digital vote after it's been dwindled to 2 potential leaders.
Voting by electronic ballots old people will love that.
Hugh Grant, did a great job in Love Actually
"Hugh Grant, did a great job in Love Actually"
Well it worked for Zelinsky....
So it’s gone from no members vote at dinner time I wonder if that’s why the jurnos where calling Bradly a lier to a digital vote after it’s been dwindled to 2 potential leaders
I don't think they'll get two candidates - thats why they set the bar so high, and why at first it was no vote for members, now its maybe just incase. Boris gets 1/3 of the MPs, the others split the rest among them. Only Boris makes it through, and everyone recognises that he was still the #1 choice with the members, so it's not a problem they don't get a vote as he'd have won by a landslide.
I hope it does go to a digital ballot, which someone manages to hack and place millions of fake votes. More incompetent chaos.
But this way just makes it an informal runoff though ..?
Over the weekend, there'll be a lot of weighing up the options. If it looks like Johnson is doing well, I'm pretty sure MPs would coalesce around one candidate rather than splitting their vote and letting him in.
If that happens… how do the public respond to that? His bubble his popped. He has the skills to get some of the population to embrace their decreasing real wages with a bit of his Great British Boosterism, but for most people that will look so, so hollow this winter.
As Bullet Tooth Tony once said : “You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity”
Perhaps they should give the job to the winner of Channel 4’s make me prime minister*
Couldn’t be any worse than the last 2 could they ?
* it’s a bit of a poor man’s the apprentice if you haven’t seen it 😂
Boris, calling a general election immediately.
Surely the most attractive proposition about Johnson is that if reinstated as PM he can legitimately claim to have a mandate from British voters for both himself personally and his policies.
Which would guarantee no general election for at least 2 years.
I reckon Sunak, for example, would really struggle making the claim that no general election would be necessary, especially if like Truss he were to pursue unpopular policies, in his case harsh austerity.
I don't think Johnson currently stands any realistic chance though, even if the Tories are terrified of the thought of an early general election, which they undoubtedly are.
Surely the most attractive proposition about Johnson is that if reinstated as PM he can legitimately claim to have a mandate from British voters for both himself personally and his policies.
You'd think, but I think his ego wouldn't allow him to be reinstated as the 'best of a bad bunch'. He's going to want to win another election again soon. Maybe not immediately, he might steady the ship first, but before the 2025 window.
I'm tempted to put a fiver down as a wager on Trump.
Surely the most attractive proposition about Johnson
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If Boris got in he’s probably make Nadine Chancellor as reward 😳
It seems like Graham Brady thinks they’ve got a cunning plan to have this all done and dusted by next weekend to their satisfaction.
Job jobbed
I’ll put my house on the fact that whatever they think is going to happen has gone completely tits up by Tuesday and we’re once again all the victims of unintended consequences courtesy of the Tory Party
This has got Ed Millibands 3 quid membership written all over it.
And look what that delivered
You’d think, but I think his ego wouldn’t allow him to be reinstated as the ‘best of a bad bunch’.
Yeah I agree, I doubt he wants his come back quite so soon and he is unlikely to win anyhow so he could probably do without any further humiliation.
He might get leant on though, long before Truss announced her resignation some Tory MPs were emphasising the appeal of Johnson was that he would pretty much guarantee that an early general election wouldn't be necessary.
I honestly don't know how the Tories can avoid an early general election after changing their leader twice.
I honestly don’t know how the Tories can avoid an early general election after changing their leader twice.
I also don't think they can, and I also think they'll believe the only election winner they have is Bozza....
Rab C Nesbitt?
Couldn't be any worse than ANY of the possible clowns we have now.
Of any party.
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I think they are still making the rules up. I heard on Radio 4 something about a shortlist by Monday and then maybe members vote by email for the shortlist.
They are really missing a trick here, the membership vote should be done via a premium rate phoneline. Allow members to vote as much as their bank balances will allow, it's the Tory way!
Fair enough but over the last year all they have done is slag off the Tories, rather than offer constructive alternative, but I guess thats British politics these days.
I was going to make a smartarse comment about getting a newspaper, but actually the above is a pretty sad indictment of how filtered the UK media has become, and it ain't a lefty bias.
I also think they’ll believe the only election winner they have is Bozza….
I don't know whether many Tory MPs believe that. IMO Sunak who appears to be currently the front runner would a
big vote loser for them though.
Sunak appears to be committed to austerity and I am not sure he fully grasps just how unpopular that would be during a severe cost of living crises.
He needs to face up to the fact that this isn't 2010 and he won't be able to blame the last Labour government for the mess which he helped to create.
A billionaire, the wealthiest person in UK politics, telling households who are struggling to heat their homes and feed themselves, that they need to make sacrifices, and expect cuts in real wages and public services?
Even Liz Truss recognised that voters will no longer accept austerity for a mess which they didn't create, that is precisely why she came up with a harebrained policy of tax cuts for the wealthy being paid for by growth, whilst resolutely claiming that there would be no spending cuts.
The political crisis which is facing the UK isn't simply one of competence, it is a crisis of ideology.
An online poll? Imagine how many middle aged people in the Home Counties are going to be getting phone calls off elderly, racist parents asking them how the interweb works 😂
On those BBC vox pops pining for BoJob. My god, we are phucked as a country if there's still a sizable number of people who would vote for him again.
Mordaunt or Johnson should be the "safe" bets by comparison to many others. Either one will do. Sunak is fine as tactician but does not command the crowd. Johnson has a slight advantage over Mordaunt but I like Mordaunt as she got guts!
The only way for Starmer to become a PM is for him to wish the war in Ukraine/Russia continues, otherwise he will just be another "Kinnock". He will come so so close to be PM seat but yet so so far ... LOL! I dare Labour to campaign on carbon emission.
Pritti Vacant has been quiet lately.
Johnson should be the “safe”
Hahaha
Johnson has 2 investigations ongoing and you know for certain that more scandal & incompetence will follow him like a bad smell
Johnson has 2 investigations ongoing and you know for certain that more scandal & incompetence will follow him like a bad smell
which is all irrelevant when it comes to Tories.
People have short memories don't they...
The thing with Bozza is that his MPs and Cabinet turned on him for good reasons.
They couldn't count on him not to throw them under the bus, his lies kept collapsing in on themselves, making whichever spokesperson was doing the round that day look foolish at best and complicit in the lying at worst.
By the end, third choice options were turning down ministerial jobs because they knew just how untrustworthy he was (and no doubt still is)... This wasn't all that long ago folks.
And he's still got a parliamentary standards enquiry hanging over him, he's utterly toxic to the (already near worthless) "Conservative Brand"...
Do you really think 1/3rd of Tory MPs actually want him (and his shit list from six months ago) back as PM?!?
The blue rinse brigade and mad Nad' may well want him back and think he's the only hero that can keep Labour out, but Tory MPs still get first say. If he's even in the running it's an utter travesty...
The one question that needs to be put to each candidate tomorrow is simple; if you get made Tory leader next week, will you look to call a general election?
chewkw - if only brant would tell us who you really are; he had some interaction with you when he was with PX/on one.
One thing has always been clear - you're a troll, pretending to be a malay on tyneside.
Pull the other one hinny.
You're not some fantastical creation from the mind of Leonard Barras; you're not in the same caategory as Seppie Elphinstook, goalkeeper for Wallsend Amnesia FC.
You're, at best, mildly amusing but only in extremely small doses.
What a clown.
An online poll? Imagine how many middle aged people in the Home Counties are going to be getting phone calls off elderly, racist parents asking them how the interweb works 😂
I sense an opportunity for some mischief here, if everyone could tell their respective Tory technophobe that it's a "reverse poll" and you have to click on the one you like least first, we could easily cock the results right up...
Watching Newsnight and I see Christopher Chope has been removed from his embalming machine and is blaming everything and everyone for removing Liz Truss before she got a chance to surprise us with her ability to govern.
Can we have a whip round for the poor old sod and fund him a Marie Curie nurse, it’s time we let him go in peace
Cant see why Johnson would want to reconsider the role. He recently got £315,000 for a 30 minute speech. PM only pays £165,000. And no extra benefit onto the pension. He'll likely do a large number of speaking jobs over the course of the year, plus of course be employed in a number of directorships.
£1m+ yearly wage as opposed to £165k ?. Don't think we'll be seeing him again.
You have to hand it to him though in a Machiavellian sense. Support Truss as continuity PM, knowing she is mad as a sack of badgers and will likely crash and burn, then ride to the rescue for 2024.
Trouble is, it's worked waaay too well, and too quickly. He needed at least another six months to a year for enough of the public to forget his record and rehabilitate him. Then they would have been so close to an election that a 'seasoned campaigner' would have been needed.
He’s already got more nominations than any other contender.
He can make money anytime
Are you discounting his planet sized ego?
Boris will be back in number ten by next weekend
He’ll be gone again in less time than Liz lasted
I think we should give lord bucket head a chance.
