It's going to be Boris isn't it?!
Christ, he'll be utterly insufferable, gloating and preening about being back as PM.
FFS.
Christ, he’ll be utterly insufferable, gloating and preening about being back as PM.
If that happens... how do the public respond to that? His bubble his popped. He has the skills to get some of the population to embrace their decreasing real wages with a bit of his Great British Boosterism, but for most people that will look so, so hollow this winter.
There’s a standards committee hearing coming in a few weeks that will be live 3 days a week for 8 hours a day with apparently “hundreds” of people wanting to give evidence as to just how precisely Boris is unfit to hold office.
it would be somewhat ironic if he were to be handed the PM-ship just as that was going on, and be forced to resign again as he really still is unfit to be PM
But what about a General Election?
Is that likely to happen / how would that happen?
Just think it could be Keir Starmer how scary would that be, someone else in charge without any plans or robust costings
But what about a General Election?
Is that likely to happen / how would that happen?
Interesting Question, if Mordunt or Rishi get in, they'll probably have to call a GE within 6 months I reckon, if BJ actually has the front to run and subsequently wins?!? I've no doubt he'll claim his mandate from 2019 stands.
Is this Leadership run-off even going to the Tory membership though? will it not just be Tory MPs voting for a figure to unite behind?
Just think it could be Keir Starmer how scary would that be, someone else in charge without any plans or robust costings
Indeed, Just Imagine that... 🙂
Just think it could be Keir Starmer how scary would that be, someone else in charge without any plans or robust costings
I genuinely can't tell if this is supposed to be a joke.
I genuinely can’t tell if this is supposed to be a joke.
I assumed it was a joke TBH.
Anyway, new leader in post by next Friday must mean no membership vote.
I genuinely can’t tell if this is supposed to be a joke.
How to tell if any comment about UK politics is a joke:
Yes.
I genuinely can’t tell if this is supposed to be a joke.
Halfway between the two.
It looks like Labour could end up in power just because its harder to do any worse rather than by proving they have robust costed plans.
Unless I have missed something, and they have published robust costed plans?
If labour push green energy they will walk it. Different thread perhaps
It looks like Labour could end up in power just because its harder to do any worse rather than by proving they have robust costed plans.
Unless I have missed something, and they have published robust costed plans?
They don't do that until there's an election set.
Farage. And then they can finally drop the pretense.
They don’t do that until there’s an election set.
Fair enough but over the last year all they have done is slag off the Tories, rather than offer constructive alternative, but I guess thats British politics these days.
For what its worth, I think we need a change, as quite clearly the Tories are out of ideas.
New leader in place within a week?? So won't be going to members vote assumedly, so will be down to the vote of MPs only - then it'll be Boris
It was mentioned numerous times from different sources inthe last week that the majority of MPs want Boris back in Power...
If that doesn't cause riots nothing will....
New leader in place within a week?? So won’t be going to members vote assumedly, so will be down to the vote of MPs only – then it’ll be Boris
It was mentioned numerous times from different sources inthe last week that the majority of MPs want Boris back in Power…
If that doesn’t cause riots nothing will….
MPs voted him out. I would say he's got a stronger mandate from the public than any other candidate, but that doesn't matter. it'll be Rishi imo..
Halfway between the two.
It looks like Labour could end up in power just because its harder to do any worse rather than by proving they have robust costed plans.
Unless I have missed something, and they have published robust costed plans?
Oh, you were 'semi-serious'?
I suppose you might have a point if living under Tory rule wasn't already terrifying. Hunt's apparent shoring up of the budget after the "Fiscal event" was still ~£13B short wasn't it? So it's not like there's currently a "costed plan" is there...
I think they are still making the rules up. I heard on Radio 4 something about a shortlist by Monday and then maybe members vote by email for the shortlist. I suspect there will be a shortlist of 1 presented to the members after some dodgy behind the scenes deal making amongst the factions preference
Fair enough but over the last year all they have done is slag off the Tories, rather than offer constructive alternative, but I guess thats British politics these days.
No. They have announced many policies and have done too much work making sure they have costed every single one. Plenty of policies... on green energy and NHS staffing to name two of many... and every single one coming with an idea of how it will be funded well beyond anything the Conservatives have offered when they make up their policies on the fly. Come an election, just like previous elections, the Labour manifesto will come supported by a full costing document... where as the Tories will just publish a wish list. And still some people honestly think that is the Tories that are careful with our money... maddening.
Who would be the worst from a Labour point of view?
I think Boris and Rishi have too much baggage so imo Mordunt
It’s going to be Boris isn’t it?!
He will have to get on a plane and get back to the country. He is currently serving his constituents as their MP from a beach in the Caribbean as turning up for work is not his forte.
Who would be the worst from a Labour point of view?
I think Boris and Rishi have too much baggage so imo Mordunt
That's my thought as well.
I'm hoping no one can paper over the cracks and convince the voters to give them more time though.
It won't be either johnson or starmer.
Starmer is likely to be next but one; labour don't have a path to forcing a GE.
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I fear what the tories will do next - I also fear Diane Abbott holding any cabinet position! 😱
...the grass on the other side of the fence isn't lush with lovely mown stripes, there's moss, weeds and patchiness over there too.
We do need to roll in that grass though.
labour don’t have a path to forcing a GE.
Yeh I can't see how, unless the Tories call a GE, but theres no way on earth that will happen with the polls like they are.
We're just passengers in the clown car until the next sheduled GE.
I fear what the tories will do next – I also fear Diane Abbott holding any cabinet position!
Er... she's not on the shadow cabinet... and won't be in the cabinet if Labour win an election.... but I'd take her over Coffey, or Rees-Moog, any day of the week.
What Kelvin said
Andrea Leadsom apparently
Poll on Daily Mail website...
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…the grass on the other side of the fence isn’t lush with lovely mown stripes, there’s moss, weeds and patchiness over there too.
So very much better than the scorched earth we've got to put up with at the moment.
So very much better than the scorched earth we’ve got to put up with at the moment.
…as the rest of my post implies!
I also fear Diane Abbott holding any cabinet position!
Hah. She might be a bit shit getting her words out, but she gives a shit about people and I'd far rather have her in a position of responsibility than the absolute arseholes on offer who only want to screw you and me over.
…the grass on the other side of the fence isn’t lush with lovely mown stripes, there’s moss, weeds and patchiness over there too.
So very much better than the scorched earth we’ve got to put up with at the moment.
Currently feels more like we've got stuck in the boggy bit of the garden and the owners just announced they can't remember where the septic tank was located but it's been blocked for years.
Boris Johnson is getting the 3rd best odds right now, after Sunak and Mordaunt
Boris would be an excellent outcome for anyone wanting a futher nail in the Tory coffin. Bring him on.
Currently feels more like we’ve got stuck in the boggy bit of the garden and the owners just announced they can’t remember where the septic tank was located but it’s been blocked for years.
I'd say it feels like we're a bunch of ants, trying to march across the patio on a scorching hot day, while a burgeoning sociopath try's out the magnifying glass they got for their birthday on us. Some of us will make it to the other side, some will get burnt to a crisp, none of us voted for this...
Boris would be hilarious. Can't believe the the next GE is Jan 2025. Too long to wait!
Currently feels more like we’ve got stuck in the boggy bit of the garden and the owners just announced they can’t remember where the septic tank was located but it’s been blocked for years.
If that were the case we'd be surrounded by lush vegetation and bountiful fruit trees.
Metaphorically, I'm longing for a leaky septic tank.
I say give Larry the cat his chance.
Certainly couldn't do any worse.
Boris would be hilarious.
Yeah, erm... no.
We desperately need an actual adult.
No sure why people keep referring to the **** as :"Boris"- makes him sound all nice and cuddly.
I don't think he'll run again- after all his money worries, he's just had a wee taster of the riches and soft power that await an ex-PM. It'll be another corruption he won't be able to resist. Remember the Blair's and the mortgages- they must look back and wonder what they ever worried about. Johnson will be the same now- why bother with this public service lark, when there's nothing more in it for him.
I wonder if he's just put it out there that he's considering as a huge windup.
The Tory's have been delivering progressively worse PMs since Cameron. The problem is, being worse than Truss is a pretty high (low?) bar to clear. The list of candidates who would be worse than the current PM is getting pretty short.
I'm going to stick with my prediction from a week ago of Kemi Badenoch.
I can't quite figure out exactly how it's going to happen yet but I have no doubt that they will surpass themselves with their choice of PM yet again.
Did Brady just say candidates need 100 nominations?
How are the loonies supposed to get that many MPs to nominate them? Seems very unfair.
