I wondered that. Is is possible to have both simultaneously if they are so different?
But with a hospitalisation rate of 0.0045%
hospitalisations tend to lag cases by a couple of weeks , so early signs are encouraging but still too early to say, really
Anyone know of people in the 20 to 29 yo age group getting boosted as yet or does it not go live till tomorrow for that age group? Want to ensure my son and his partner are jabbed asap.
My two got done today at a walk-in (18). Arrived approximately an hour before opening, were fourth in the queue for walk-ins. The centre was prioritising its existing appointments, so one walk-in got done every 30 or so. Took them just over an hour to get their jabs. The queue when we left was most of the way around a large block, so most of them will have to queue for several hours by that token.
Basically, act the same way people do to get some sale bargains from Next, or a Black Friday telly, and they'll be fine.
Is is possible to have both simultaneously if they are so different?
Why not, that's how you get lovely genetic recombination in viruses.
If you want to see what England should be doing/will be doing soon.... Look to Scotland. We've been here before of course.
Scotland to announce new measures for mixing soon.
Oh, an easy to read and yes, a little dumbed down perhaps, explanation of why the booster gives so much more protection than just 2 jabs.
I feel a little reassured after reading it anyway. Worth a read @reluctantjumper
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59639973
Early days at the moment, but it does appear that this variant is significantly less lethal the others
Less lethal, bearing in mind the vaccination rate. We seem to keep talking about issues in isolation and not seeing the bigger picture at times.
Had the booster yesterday. They gave me a shot of Pfizer.
After leaving I realised they didn't give me any paperwork to show the receipt of said vaccine 🙁
I feel like crap now; terrible headache and body aches all over.
With the AstraZeneca I just got some severe shivers in the evening.
After leaving I realised they didn’t give me any paperwork to show the receipt of said vaccine 🙁
mine showed up in the NHS app fairly quickly.
still got a sore armpit..
After leaving I realised they didn’t give me any paperwork to show the receipt of said vaccine
You don't get a receipt, just the MSDS type info sheet about the vaccine you received. The receipt will be digital in app, when required. I got mine last thursday, showing on the app now.
@poopscoop - that does allay some fears but I'm not getting mine until Christmas Eve. Allow it time to work and I've got to somehow avoid getting infected over January. It's not getting I'll myself I'm worried about, it's passing it on to my parents. Also all I hear from my friends in the NHS (based all over the country) is that staff are isolating all the time, people are quitting in droves and that it's complete hell already. One was assaulted a few days ago after someone turned up in their department and demanded their booster immediately, they got violent when they were told to go to a different site as orthopaedic care doesn't administer them.
I dunno if anyone is in the same situation but (being over 40) I initially booked under the 6-month rule and was allocated a slot in Jan. When the new 3-month rule came into effect I immediately cancelled the first slot and booked a new one which was just a few days away.
Head of S Africa Health says yes more cases of Omicron and it is more transmissible but milder than delta and not filling hopitals.
Someone mentioned not trusting Dr John Campbell? Apparently he's not a medical doctor, he's a nurse practitioner and lecturer.
Anyone catch Dr McCullough on Rogan's podcast?
If you want to see what England should be doing/will be doing soon…. Look to Scotland. We’ve been here before of course.
There is not expected to be any extension to the vaccine passport scheme at this stage.
That is because the passports only show that a person has had two vaccine doses, which offers limited protection against Omicron.
That's funny. Mine definitely shows all three doses - in the "International" section.
Had the booster yesterday. They gave me a shot of Pfizer.
After leaving I realised they didn’t give me any paperwork to show the receipt of said vaccine 🙁
I feel like crap now; terrible headache and body aches all over.
With the AstraZeneca I just got some severe shivers in the evening.
Ah, sort of the opposite. The astrazenca dose 1 floored me. Dose 2, less so. The pfizer booster gave me a sore arm and an underpowered feel for 2 days then ok. I did ride on the 2nd of those 2 duff days, but was definitely down on oomph so took it easy.
You don’t get a receipt, just the MSDS type info sheet about the vaccine you received.
i got another vacinne card with a sticker with batch no etc on and the NHS covid pass now shows all three doses with the latest one first.
People in Scotland have been asked to limit socialising to three households at a time in the run-up to Christmas amid concerns over the Omicron variant.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59655829
@reluctantjumper
that does allay some fears but I’m not getting mine until Christmas Eve. Allow it time to work and I’ve got to somehow avoid getting infected over January. It’s not getting I’ll myself I’m worried about, it’s passing it on to my parents. Also all I hear from my friends in the NHS (based all over the country) is that staff are isolating all the time, people are quitting in droves and that it’s complete hell already. One was assaulted a few days ago after someone turned up in their department and demanded their booster immediately, they got violent when they were told to go to a different site as orthopaedic care doesn’t administer them.
I totally relate to your circumstances mate, my mum's 92 and my oh works in an NHS lab. 2 of her colleagues were of last week with Covid... One came in ill, hadn't done a lateral flow test even. Sent home and sure enough had Covid. Idiot.
It's getting closer all the time but everyone in my "bubble" is boosted now except my son and his partner. Mum and I being really careful but I'm basically playing a delaying tactic. I've excepted we are going to be exposed to Omicron (have carers coming into the house for for a start...) but trying to delay it till spring when the NHS is in a better place (if mum needs it...) and better anti viral drugs are available. Just being pragmatic about a situation I find deeply worrying/helpless in. It's just that worrying changes nothing so I try to put it to the back of my mind. Sort of.
If I were you, with your concerns (which I relate to) I'd queue at a walk in centre, get boosted, then cancel the later appointment. I can't see how anyone could judge you harshly for doing so. Id do the same in a heart beat.
People in Scotland have been asked to limit socialising to three households at a time in the run-up to Christmas amid concerns over the Omicron variant.
"Don't be a numpty, reduce who and how many people you meet, get a booster, work from home" is now guidance.
Also shops/pubs/hotels etc to go back to more rigorous controls including reduced numbers, track and trace, screens etc.
No changes to schools (other than letter last week to reduce visitors in schools).
Care homes - reduce to no more than 2 households visit each time and LfT at all times for staff and visitors.
High risk individuals - CMO to write to all who were shielding shortly.
So, there is obviously a huge amount of variation in how people react when they get infected with this virus; from asymptomatic to death. As this thread shows, there is also a wide variation in how people react to the vaccine. Is there any positive correlation between the two?
People in Scotland have been asked to limit socialising to three households at a time in the run-up to Christmas amid concerns over the Omicron variant.
And working from home going to be put into law it sounds like. Typing this sitting alone in my work's main office - normally 80 staff but only 2 of us in while I guide someone setting up their new laptop.
And working from home going to be put into law it sounds like. Typing this sitting alone in my work’s main office – normally 80 staff but only 2 of us in while I guide someone setting up their new laptop.
Indeed - I have two staff who work in the office, not usually together, but in two separate rooms if they do, and for some very valid reasons....
On the plus side I'm about to exhaust our supply of spare laptops so I'll have no further need to return to the office again after this Thursday. There's going to be a lot of beg, borrow and stealing of equipment between staff I think, based on importance.
We went to a wedding on Friday and we’re under no illusions that we’d be coming home with the virus. Sure enough, the tickly throat started late on Sunday and had my pcr result 1st thing today confirming it. 😏
Had the booster yesterday. They gave me a shot of Pfizer.
After leaving I realised they didn’t give me any paperwork to show the receipt of said vaccine 🙁
I feel like crap now; terrible headache and body aches all over.
With the AstraZeneca I just got some severe shivers in the evening.
I was simmilar;
Shot 1 AZ - felt pretty rough the next day
Shot 2 AZ - no side effects really
Shot 3 Phizer -felt a bit rougher than shot 1 - basicaly spent the day in bed feeling sorry for myself
All my side effects came on the day after the injection had gone by the morning after that.
@i_scoff_cake - I'm in the same boat as you - over 40 with a booster shot booked for Jan, BUT, I've not been able to access an appointment for an earlier appointment.
And now, there are no vaccination centres showing as offering walk in appointments when entering an SP11 7 post code...
My other half has an appointment on the 22nd Dec - I'm gonna rock up with her and try and blag a booster
@davebrookes - I've heard the website has been overloaded with people trying to access bookings so it could all be full up now? I was fortunately very quick to rebook as soon as my GP sent me an invitation.
Had my Pfizer booster this morning after OxAZ for the first two jabs, I'm already feeling shattered and a bit achy. In fairness though, thinking back, I felt sides effects coming on a few hours after the OxAZ jabs too that were both afternoon injections.
for me (long COVID sufferer):
Shot 1 AZ – Rough for a couple of days, then a month of energy peaks and troughs
Shot 2 AZ – Rough for a couple of days, then a week of migraines, then 2 months of severe fatigue
Shot 3 Pfizer - so far, 24 hours of feeling a bit groggy and achey. Much milder than the other two. We'll see how the next few weeks pan out...
Positive PCR test for me, which came back last night after the test on Sunday. I was at a work "lunch" in London last Thursday, which a lateral flow beforehand showed negative and I had no symptoms. I only took a lateral flow on Sunday morning as I woke up with a slight sore throat. Don't currently feel too bad tbh.
Interestingly, pretty much most of the people I was at said lunch with (in central London) also tested positive on Sunday. Thursday to Sunday seems a bit quick compared to the old 5 day-ish period (Omicron?) and some of the people have only recovered from Covid (delta) within the last few months.
Mine definitely shows all three doses – in the “International” section.
As does mine. Once they decided to show boosters in the International section (because some foreign travel requires them) it was updated very quickly. I'm sure that if they decide to require boosters on the UK (English) covid pass it would be a very quick job to show them.
@reluctantjumper just go and get your booster now if you want it (like a new DFS sofa) 'in time for Christmas'. Find out where your walk-ins are and then just pick a dumb time to go, i.e. when less people will be there. You can then cancel your original appointment.
I have a feeling he's in Wales so can't. Got a text with my appointment this afternoon, but not till early January.
Early days at the moment, but it does appear that this variant is significantly less lethal the others
Less lethal, bearing in mind the vaccination rate. We seem to keep talking about issues in isolation and not seeing the bigger picture at times.
Yes, but it's severity in a largely vaccinated (or COVID recovered) population is relevant, because that's what we have !!
I do find myself questioning whether the rush to boost everyone is going to make a material difference... it's the severe cases we want to stop, and perhaps a targeted approach would have achieved that.
I have a feeling he’s in Wales so can’t. Got a text with my appointment this afternoon, but not till early January.
I had mine last Thursday (in Gorseinon as per posted appointment). You ain't having any of my antibodies sucker!
On that note, when you give blood do things like antibodies get removed? Would antivaxxers get the benefit of my hard-won antibodies unwittingly? (Are vampires Covid free because of their diet? Sorry, I'm bored in work.)
FYI, Government suspending the mandatory 15 min wait after vaccination to speed the booster program up.
Only exception will be if you have a history of allergies etc.
Yep suspension of 15 min waiting is to help community pharmacy settings ramp up their delivery as they often don't have the space.
Had Moderna booster yesterday after 2x moderna before. Slight heavy arm and fuzzyness but nothing really. Dose 2 put me in bed for 24hrs.
Wait till booster #2 comes
I'm still expecting this to be an annual vaccine (like flu) to accommodate regular mutations and waning efficacy.
I'm definitely not expecting CV19 to go away, ever.
If I were you, with your concerns (which I relate to) I’d queue at a walk in centre, get boosted, then cancel the later appointment. I can’t see how anyone could judge you harshly for doing so. Id do the same in a heart beat.
just go and get your booster now if you want it (like a new DFS sofa) ‘in time for Christmas’. Find out where your walk-ins are and then just pick a dumb time to go, i.e. when less people will be there. You can then cancel your original appointment.
I have a feeling he’s in Wales so can’t. Got a text with my appointment this afternoon, but not till early January.
Yep, in Wales so no walk-ins available. Was in Bristol yesterday and had my break parked near a walk-in there so wandered over to ask if I could have one there but as my address is in Wales they couldn't deal with me. Will have to wait until the 24th but it's still a big worry as my current work means I'm meeting lots of different people all day (delivery driver) and handing them stuff so keeping contact to a minimum is very hard. I'm also running out of home test kits so going to see my parents will be higher risk for a while unfortunately.
On home LFT kits... I ordered one online this morning at 06:30 (NHS England). So maybe it is true they have enough stock, but not enough delivery slots.
I’m still expecting this to be an annual vaccine (like flu) to accommodate regular mutations and waning efficacy.
Yes I'm sure that will be the case. It's no big deal.
so wandered over to ask if I could have one there but as my address is in Wales they couldn’t deal with me
I'd wondered if that was an option, but makes sense it isn't.
You ain’t having any of my antibodies sucker antibodies sucker....Are vampires Covid free because of their diet?
haha - more to the point are all the bloody mozzies and horse flies in clyne immune now?
