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Going my Nan's old slide and was told a story about this guy...

Jimmy Silk - Ironman of Hotwell's, Bristol

The guy on the right is my grandfather and worked from Pooles Warth, Hotwells, Bristol.

Jimmy Silk could carry two Hundred Weight [Long] bags of coal or cement. Thats about 100kg 😯 all day long. Not the now Spanish Health & Safety size of 25kg 😉

Date circa 1970

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/5777350928/ ]Jimmy Silk - Ironman of Hotwell's, Bristol[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/58162507@N07/ ]SGMTB[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 6:10 pm
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Yeah, right. 😆

That little skinny bloke could carry 100kg all day long? Let alone lift what would be I'd imagine nearly twice his own weight?

Do you still believe in Father Christmas?


 
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That little skinny bloke could carry 200kg all day long?

2 cwt [as the man said] is ~102kg


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 6:16 pm
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There was a speedy edit uplink. Speedy, and sneaky.

EDIT: in the OP


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 6:18 pm
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Yeah but he's only 35 in that picture, he's been worked to exhaustion 🙂


 
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Yeah, hasty edit shh don't tell no-one...

Still a load of cobblers though in't it? Come on; 102kg is a colossal amount. Almost 16 stone. So, that little bloke could heft nearly 16 stone baygs, all day long? No chance.

Gotta love old wives' tales though. 🙂


 
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Going my Nan's old slide
Is that a euphimism?


 
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BTW, 25kg is not a limit, it's a guide.


 
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Almost 16 stone

BTW - 2 cwt is exactly 16 stone


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 6:21 pm
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[i]Still a load of cobblers though in't it? Come on; 102kg is a colossal amount.[/i]

Only for a londoner, where a skinny latte* and an ipad is a taxing load.
Out in the country it's chicken feed.

* I don't actually know what a skinny latte is. I'm guessing a low fat milky nescafe, but if anyone can help me out I'd be grateful.


 
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Apparently there was an article in the Bristol Evening Post and I'm still looking for it.


 
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Ok, I weigh 62kgs or thereabouts; just under 10 stone.

I've just lifted a bar with weights, a combined 50kg. Heavy, but I'm sure I could lift another 10-15kg at least.

So, not impossible for that skinny bloke to lift 102kgs, if he was 'in training', but not to heft that amount around all day. Not a chance in hell. He'duv had heart attack within the hour.

I don't actually know what a skinny latte is. I'm guessing a low fat milky nescafe, but if anyone can help me out I'd be grateful.

Pfft. Don't ask me mate, I'm not a ponce. 😐


 
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I'm pretty sure that this summarises perfectly what the World was like pre 'elf 'n' safety..


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 6:36 pm
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Probably the all day bit is an exaggeration. But my Nan swears black and blue that he could lift carry that weight on his shoulders.

The place was Poole Brothers and Galbraith, Hotwells. All it is now is trendy flats and 911's.

Mind you some of them dockers were strong as ox's.


 
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[i]I've just lifted a bar with weights, a combined 50kg. Heavy, but I'm sure I could lift another 10-15kg at least.[/i]

Pah! Victoria Pendleton weighs the same and can do 120Kg.
And she's a girl.
A country girl mind.


 
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I had a job once [late 70s sometime] unloading peas as they came in from the farms, these were in 12 stone [75kg] hessian sacks
we used to lift them between two off us of the truck and tip them down a hopper

I was only a kid then but most of the blokes there took one each off the truck, it was all piece work
They did this all day long with just a couple of breaks


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 6:53 pm
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Depends on how they need to be lifted too though. Off the back of a lorry is one thing, off the floor is something else.


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 6:59 pm
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But he's only 35...


 
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Depends on how they need to be lifted too though. Off the back of a lorry is one thing, off the floor is something else.

I thought I said - off the lorry

They had to walk around 25yds with them on their back lean forward and cut the string and empty them over their shoulder
All day long

If you think that it's easy because it's not off the floor, there you go


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 7:04 pm
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I used to throw 20kg blocks of cheese around all day, not quite the same weight, it's all in the technique, innit?


 
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If you think that it's easy because it's not off the floor, there you go

Did I say it was easy? I said it was easIER.


 
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Blessed are the cheesemongers.


 
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😉


 
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If you think the guys unloading the trucks were tough, you should have seen the farm girls that loaded them 😉


 
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Don't be fooled by a slight stature, it used to be said of coal miners that the physical nature of the work would turn some men into beef and others into wire. Some guys would get bulky and muscle bound from the work and others would instead become scrawny, but they'd both be just as strong.


 
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100 kg over the shoulders of a strong man is not that heavy as a one off. Don't know about all day long, but an 'Iron man' could probably heft that weight numerous times in a days work. Sounds reasonable tbh.


 
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I've known a lot of very strong weedy blokes. I think size has very little to do with strength. Therefore I believe Redthunder's nan's story.


 
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SEO?


 
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SEO?

I know that... but it's like greased lightning 🙂


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 7:27 pm
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I can see how he done it, the clues in the pic.


 
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Just spoke to my 96 year old nan. She reckons she still has the news paper cutting. I'll get it tomorrow and scan it in.


 
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I can see how he done it, the clues in the pic.

No, those donkey's are drunk, Jimmy Silk is carrying them home to sober up, look at the eyes of the one on the right - he's totally munted. Those hay bails are the donkey equivalent of a post pub kebab.


 
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Sounds reasonable enough to me.
Used to work for a marquee firm and would carry the bags of roof canvas on my back, ~80kg dry, over 100kg wet. I'm about 75kg.

Plenty of heavy shifting in that job. As above, the guys that could do the work were either big (few front row rugby lads) or lightweight guys.

Quite funny watching new guys think they can lift them and then getting flattened as the bag comes off the van.


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 7:33 pm
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No, those donkey's are drunk, Jimmy Silk is carrying them home to sober up, look at the eyes of the one on the right - he's totally munted.

It's the 70's he's a hippy Donkey.


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 7:35 pm
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Actually - he looks a bit like Boris Johnson


 
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Posted : 30/05/2011 7:38 pm
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That's one hell of a spliff.


 
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That's only a 100kg of feathers not hash, 100kg of hash is heavier than 100kg of feathers ;-).


 
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2 cwt of your finest Mary-Jane in that one.


 
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This guy will be carrying somewhere in the region of 120kg
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Pah! Victoria Pendleton weighs the same and can do 120Kg.
And she's a girl.

😯

Seriously?

How on Earth does she manage that???


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 7:51 pm
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By being strong. Tim Perris gives other similar examples in his book btw.


 
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This guy will be carrying somewhere in the region of 120kg

😯

That's mental. He's not doing that all day long though, is he? Just once every whatever. Still nuts mind. Sure that isn't just staged for the camera, and he'd only be carrying half that?

Mate of mine was a hod carrier. Big lad, from Oop North. He also had a job killing rats, and once knocked down a dry stone wall in Cumbria.

I don't disbelieve the ability to lift such a weight, just the 'all day long' bit.

And I'm assuming that photo was taken when Jimmy Silk had long retired, cos in all truth, he don't look that well, that feller.

'Elfinsofty' Lol!


 
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😯

😯

😯

[i]Three Hundred and Eight pounds. Almost One hundred and Forty Kilograms.[/i]

I think I got to about 100kg on squats. Like, doing one. Just one.


 
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I used to work on a farm and we had fertilizer delivered in 50kg bags, near broke me unloading 20 tons of that, the scary thing was the woman trucker who shifted all of it on her own on the truck, i just staggered from the truck to the shed. She had Diesel Queen painted on the front of the lorry and came from Monmouth if I remember right.


 
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Those bricks are probably just under 2kg each.
So that's around 85kg, including the hod.

100kg in a sack on the shoulders off a lorry bed is believable.
After all, even a pale skinny vegan can carry 75kg in each hand. 😉

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/8805115@N04/2509422153/ ]sleepers[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/8805115@N04/ ]Vegan Graham[/url], on Flickr


 
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You'd be surprised what the human muscular skeletal system can do.

I've no problem believing the OP

This guy will be carrying somewhere in the region of 120kg

That's mental. He's not doing that all day long though, is he? Just once every whatever. Still nuts mind. Sure that isn't just staged for the camera, and he'd only be carrying half that?

I'm guessing you've never had a job labouring


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 8:16 pm
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I'm guessing you've never had a job labouring

Funny that was my first thought too.


 
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No. Have you? Closest I've ever bin is working in a yard shifting Calor gas bottles onto and off a conveyor belt. Empties on, not too bad. Full ones off, different story. Proper knackering.

Then some massive bloke comes up, lifts one of those 5' ones, full, above his head. Puts it down, laughs at us feeble runts, then walks away.

After all, even a pale skinny vegan can carry 75kg in each hand.

In fairness, you're hardly 'skinny'. Actually, quite a world away from it. An entire solar system in fact. No, a gala... oh sorry. 😳

You'd be surprised what the human muscular skeletal system can do.

I've no problem believing the OP

No problem believing that bloke could lift 100kg, when he was young and fit, but not all day long. So, what, big hefty bayg, up off floor, onto shoulders, onto lorry? All day long? Bollocks.

We need a 'STW's Strongest Man' (and bird, no need for sexism of course) competition. Who will win??!

Be funny to see all the 'big strong blokes' come up with excuses why they can't enter...


 
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A lot of it's technique.

I used to fling hay bales about for a couple of summers as a 17 year old. They were at ground level but had two strings to grab onto. After a few days it became doable all day.. I just got the hang of it.


 
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We need a 'STW's Stongest Man'

I just ordered a 24kg kettlebell 🙂


 
Posted : 30/05/2011 8:28 pm
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What are you going to do with that, Mol? Use it as a doorstop?


 
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you got mighty purty soft hands there elfin....

Mind you, if you weren't so prejudiced about the rural way of life you might have been more ready to believe that someone is able to heft 100Kg+ around all day. Used to regularly move that kind of weight around, and as above throwing bales can be tricky before you've got the knack and muscle strength up.

One guy I worked with used to be able throw a bale all the way over a lorry load.


 
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Lift it up, swing it around and about a bit and admire my muscles in the mirror 🙂

+1 Stoner. In a busy rural pub the farmer types are the ones who look like tubby old men but bumping into one is like bouncing off a stone pillar.


 
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[i]"We need a 'STW's Strongest Man' (and bird, no need for sexism of course) competition."[/i]

I'm up for it. 😀


 
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How are we going to do this then? At Big Bike Bash?


 
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if you weren't so prejudiced about the rural way of life you might have been more ready to believe that someone is able to heft 100Kg+ around all day

Not someone as small and skinny as that bloke in the pic. It's a tale that's bin embellished somewhat.

Used to regularly move that kind of weight around

Course you did mate, course you did. 😉 The most weight you shift is your gut...

There's a big difference between lifting large weights for short periods of time, and doing the same constantly.

I used to be able to do one-arm pull ups. Looked impressive, but I only weighed just over eight stone! 😀


 
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No. Have you?

Calm down love. And yes I have, not for about 20 years though, it would kill me now.

Thing is, it's totally possible to lift heavy stuff all day long every day. You just need a good technique that protects your muscles and most important of all you need to stick to it. For every bloody single lift. Every single one.

People permanently alter their bodies carrying heavy stuff, there was a BBC doc on this stuff not too long ago, chaps carrying massive pieces of sulphur on their backs etc. Marvellous thing the human body.

Und bend zee knees!


 
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Molly... aren't you trying to lose weight?


 
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How are we going to do this then? At Big Bike Bash?

Great call Mol. I'll let WCA know. Hmm, actually...

I'd seriously like to see some of thiise tough guys on here put their money where their mouths are. Seriously.
I reckon MTQG isn't bluffing, but he's the only one provided any evidence so far.

if you weren't so prejudiced about the rural way of life

I still know bullshit when I smell it, Stoner...


 
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Yossarian - there was something about tennis players too, altering one of their shoulders.

My Mum has a knackered back and always bends over to pick stuff up with completely straight legs. I keep trying to explain to her...

I'd fancy my chances as as a strong man in my weight category.. 🙂

Molly... aren't you trying to lose weight?

Yeah, I don't reckon 24kg is enough to bulk me up.


 
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Thing is, it's totally possible to lift heavy stuff all day long every day

Not disputing that. I've seen fellers on sites lift ridiculous amounts.

Not 100kg a time though. Not all day. You'd be dead inside a week.

I remember seeing a smallish feller hoick a scaffold pole onto his shoulder, then off onto a site. I tried it once, Jesus H Christ. Nearly shat meself with the exertion. 😳


 
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What weight bell have you been using? What exercises?


 
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the downside is that yes people can and do lift weights around and can do seamingly allday but as they get older they end up crippled


 
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I got 12kg to start with, doesn't really do anything. I tied two together and it felt like a pretty good weight but was too awkward a size to get the right posture. Hence 24 🙂


 
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bale chucking = tape around fingers


 
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or the polished underside of your knuckles timber 😉


 
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I've got more photo evidence if you want it.
I wasn't planning on going to BBB as it's 160 miles for me.
A mountain biker weight lifting contest might tempt me though.
I can bring the weights.


 
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Not disputing that. I've seen fellers on sites lift ridiculous amounts.
Not 100kg a time though. Not all day. You'd be dead inside a week.

It's not weight that's the problem, its the force required to move it plus the torsional stresses. As said previously, someone with muscles developed to do the task plus a bit of knowledge and a bit of discipline...


 
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If you're doing 20 reps of turkish get ups with 24kg I salute you!

Edit: Everyone else... take a look at videos of scaffolders playing around on youtube.


 
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I just wonder if it being an old photo, what you thought said 'Jimmy Slik picking up 2 cwts' might have been something else, sometimes handwriting is hard to decipher


 
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Turkish get-up? 😕

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I've worked with farmers built like beanpoles who could easy move that sort of weight on a regular basis. Bulk is not strength. Of course, these are country folk, not cockneys who are genetically weaker.


 
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Of course, these are country folk, not cockneys who are genetically w**ker.


 
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Of course, these are country folk, not cockneys who are genitally w**kers.


 
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Workers ?


 
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Some skinny blokes don't even need a hod


 
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I've worked with farmers built like beanpoles who could easy move that sort of weight on a regular basis.

No you jolly well have not! Not 100 [b]KILOGRAMS[/b].

100lbs, yeah, easy. I could carry that. 100 Kg is a different matter.

As no-one has actually provided any [i]proof[/i] of such claims, instead resorting to pathetic attempts to insult people from London, I'll consider this matter done.

STW Strongest Mayn; Are you tough enough? MTQG is up for it, are you?


 
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