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 br
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[i]Wow, I must live in a noce cosy world, it would be incomprehensible to me for my fiends to spout the homophobia and idiocy like b r, project etc. [/i]

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Its probably an age thing and, it seems there are just more gays around now.
http://www.avert.org/gay-people.htm

TBH I didn't know of anyone gay when I was at school/college, and it was just as rare to work with anyone gay in the work place through the 80's and 90's - but then I haven't really worked in the public sector, nor with actors 🙂

And I second the campsite bit, having been told sites were full when with groups and/or m/c's.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 11:50 am
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Aren't we so absorbed with the rights of gay people/minorities that we forget that others have rights too. For whatever reason, this women did not want gay males sharing a room as guests in her house. Surely it is her right to make that choice ? We are not talking about a hotel or a public bus service here, which is an entirely different scenario.

And before the STW lib police have a go, I personally wouldn't be bothered, or even give it a second thought. The point I am trying to make is that the guest house owner also has rights/beliefs which should be given equal respect.

ps. I don't believe for 1 second that the 2 had never experienced homophobia (have they been living in a cave, or should that be closet, until recently?) but I guess it made the story more sensational.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 12:07 pm
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TBH probably over estimates the number of thoughts in br's head:

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Posted : 22/03/2010 1:07 pm
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Its probably an age thing and, it seems there are just more gays around now.

It's probably catching. Is that why you don't want them around, in case you get the Gay Flu and start fancying a bit of cock? 🙄


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:10 pm
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b r WTF does the "number of gay people" have to do with it?

I grew up somewhere where there were zero ethnic minorities - would it be OK for me to be a racist?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:11 pm
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I note it says in the story her problem was with two men sharing a bed. Am I the only (straight) man around here to have slept in the same bed as another man?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:30 pm
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..... It`s BIBLICAL......argue with that, More religous crap


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:31 pm
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No. But she's using "sharing a bed" as a euphemism for "debauched and sinful acts of sodomy". 😉


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:31 pm
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Aren't we so absorbed with the rights of gay people/minorities that we forget that others have rights too. For whatever reason, this women did not want gay males sharing a room as guests in her house. Surely it is her right to make that choice ? We are not talking about a hotel or a public bus service here, which is an entirely different scenario.

You'll have to explain to me how a B&B is completely different to a hotel. Looks pretty similar to me (private room to sleep in, money changing hands, breakfast provided).


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:31 pm
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Am I the only (straight) man around here to have slept in the same bed as another man?

If you've done that you are clearly GAY


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:32 pm
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I was always led to understand that heterosexual couples could commit debauched and sinful acts of sodomy.

And leave bum juice on the sheets.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:33 pm
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If you've done that you are clearly GAY

Oh 😳


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:37 pm
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They have a right to be gay.

She should have the right to refuse to deal with whoever she wants.

Other guests have the right to decide to go elsewhere for their breaks in light of her decision.

Everyone wins. I think.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:38 pm
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it was just as rare to work with anyone gay in the work place through the 80's and 90's

I'd be quite surprised if it was. What you obviously meant to say was "it was just as rare to work with anyone openly gay in the work place through the 80's and 90's" - but then that was down to the existence of people like you.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:40 pm
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runs off to make a white, pointy head-scarf to fit in 😆


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:40 pm
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She should have the right to refuse to deal with whoever she wants.

Ah, "No Blacks or Irish" is acceptable then?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:41 pm
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We had a nightmare trying to find a campsite in Newquay that would accept our small group of four blokes..

I once got refused a spot on a campsite when on my own because I was an "all male group" 🙄


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:44 pm
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An Independent Financial Advisor turned dowm my business once because I'm not gay.


 
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Ah, "No Blacks or Irish" is acceptable then?

She should have the right to impose that rule if she wants to, yes.

Don't get me wrong - I don't agree with what she decided, I just think that an individual should retain the right to deal with whoever they want based on their beliefs. The BNP has only just been made, as an organised political party, to allow people 'of a non-British descent' into the party. If it was a bunch of mates getting together for a beer they could say 'no blacks, no gingers, no girls' or whatever so what is the difference if it is someone renting out rooms in their house to holiday-makers?


 
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I was once in a bar in Barcelona with the rest of the band. We didn't realise we were in what might be termed the "gay" quarter, but half an hour into the second round of drinks, we found ourselves accosted by late-middle-aged beefy Spanish blokes in dresses and lace mantillas with whiskers sticking out from underneath the pancacke makeup.

We made our excuses and left, except for the gay keyboard player, who we found later outside the same bar lying on his back in the street shouting "Somebody f*ck me!" at the top of his voice...

Happy days.


 
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If it was a bunch of mates getting together for a beer they could say 'no blacks, no gingers, no girls' or whatever so what is the difference if it is someone renting out rooms in their house to holiday-makers?

Presumably the bunch of mates don't rent out being part of their group as a commercial transation?

Why is it more acceptable for a B&B owner to be racist than it is for a shop or a bank? Or should a shop owner also have the right to refuse to deal with people because of their beliefs?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 1:50 pm
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Or should a shop owner also have the right to refuse to deal with people because of their beliefs?

Why not? They can refuse to serve someone with their hood up FFS.


 
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So as a black person in order to get served you simply paint your face white - I see how that's far easier than the person wearing a hood taking it down, and why being a black person is inherently far more of a potential security problem than somebody hiding their face from the cctv with a hood.


 
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So as a black person in order to get served you simply paint your face white

Yes. Just don't speak with a lithp...


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:02 pm
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I am simply trying to illustrate that some discrimination is acceptable (see above discrimination against larger same sex groups). There is a Black Policeman's Association and various gay and lesbian groups which a straight white male would find it very hard to gain access to.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:05 pm
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you are now confusing under represented groups clubbing together to voice shared concerns ...like say shops not serving them because of their skin colour, not getting promoted because they are "darkies" and discrimination.
They do not discriminate on skin colour in joining or gender as THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:11 pm
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hang on a minute, page 3 and no-one's blamed it on PC gone mad?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:20 pm
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O.K. It's PC gone...

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Posted : 22/03/2010 2:29 pm
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[i]I'd be quite surprised if it was. What you obviously meant to say was "it was just as rare to work with anyone openly gay in the work place through the 80's and 90's" - but then that was down to the existence of people like you. [/i]

[b]aracer[/b]
No, disagree and I was writing of my experience - and have you the experience to back up your statement?

I've had one gay boss and probably managed half a dozen gays, but thats only in the last 10 years - before then?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:35 pm
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[i]I've had one gay boss and probably managed half a dozen gays, but thats only in the last 10 years[/i]

S****s childishly. 😉


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:40 pm
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I've had one gay boss and probably managed half a dozen gays,

😆

(Ohh, you didn't mean it like [i]that[/i] did you)?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:41 pm
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Before then? The gays were in the closet!


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:41 pm
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bit off topic but i have a gay mate who is a total homophobe..they are all vulgar except him and his bloke.
honestly.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:50 pm
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maybe they weren't nice to me 😉


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 2:57 pm
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you be what you want to be br. bloody homophobephobes.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 3:00 pm
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Discrimination is everywhere.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 3:03 pm
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bloody homophobephobes.

Now then, there is no need for that. Ruddy homophobephobephobe!


 
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I am simply trying to illustrate that some discrimination is acceptable (see above discrimination against larger same sex groups).

Would you be happy to be discriminated against in that way? You probably have the choice to go somewhere in a same sex group. I don't think you get a choice to be gay.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 3:16 pm
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Everyone wins. I think.

Well, apart from the fact that an opportunity to attack bigotry has been missed, you are correct.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 3:17 pm
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I stayed at a B&B run by a gay couple a few years back, it was one of the best B&B's I've stayed in. Not sure if that's relevant but thought I'd mention it. 🙂


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 3:20 pm
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I've been avoiding reading this thread all day but I gave in eventually and what happens?? I kind of fancy a bit of cock myself now.

Anyone in the Bristol area feeling the same way? We could help one another out.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 3:22 pm
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Good word.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homophobephobe


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 3:24 pm
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Gay or not I'd be annoyed if I had to find a room last minute when I already had one to share with my mate.

Anyway, BB owners in this position should just say they've made a mistake and double booked. That's what the airlines do when they think your a gay.


 
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mudshark - I was just under the impression airlines like to discriminate against travellers?

edit - just realised there's multiple meanings there - I mean people travelling by air.. (In other words, all their customers)


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 3:55 pm
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4 pages and still going strong,not a sign of any limp wristedness so far.

Hiya all.


 
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mudshark - I was just under the impression airlines like to discriminate against travellers?

nah - they let you take a caravan with you

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Posted : 22/03/2010 5:36 pm
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You'll have to explain to me how a B&B is completely different to a hotel

A B&B is someones home as well as being a commercial enterprise and is not a public place like a hotel. While I do not agree with the the owner I believe it is her right to choose who she rents a room to.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 5:51 pm
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So she has the right to discriminate? Would "no blacks" be acceptable?

The law is really clear - you must not discriminate when you are providing goods or services


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 5:53 pm
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Hate filled trolls get another 100+ post thread, hats off to them. To save me having to read this, can someone start a seperate thread to let me know who has won?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 6:08 pm
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Would "no blacks" be acceptable?
Depends if they were gay or not.

Seriously though, there are far more important things in the world than a homophobic landlady. The BBC is showing it on the news now. I would be fascinated to see what happens to her bookings for the summer.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 6:14 pm
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Its not a case of whos won or lost,its just a discussion about bigotry, and discrimination,that is all around us,some openly discriminateing and some who are just evil.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 6:15 pm
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Interesting thread this ....... and very revealing.

I sometimes forget that MTBing takes all sorts.

And it clearly includes those who have Victorian attitudes towards sections of our society.

Strangely enough though, these characters always seem have a somewhat more liberal attitude towards their own behaviour.


 
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4 pages and still going strong,not a sign of any limp wristedness so far.

Yep you win, it's a knock out discussion with real poignant insights on the topic. I'll just retire back to my huge arse dildo.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 6:41 pm
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Mr Black and Mr Morgan were* in the village

* Insert - 'the only gays' - here


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 7:25 pm
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... and the news has revealed that the B&B owner's convictions spring from - wait for it - christianity.

What a surprise.


 
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I think I alluded to religious bollocks earlier


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 7:38 pm
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If its a biblical thing then I imagine it was a lucky escape, the stuff about no bacon and pork is in the bible too so the breakfast would have been rubbish.


 
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Seriously though, there are far more important things in the
world than a homophobic landlady.

So we should just let people get away with all the trivial things then?

Just so we know where we stand, can you rank the following on scale of
importance?

Speeding
Homophobic landladies
Murder
Fiddling HMRC on import duty
Wearing a full face helmet with lycra
Shoplifting
Fiddling expenses


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 9:48 pm
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Did I say it was trivial ?

As you asked.....

......There is one heinous crime on your list which stands out and is irrefutably at #1, the perpetrators of which should feel the full force of the law and remain outcasts from society for eternity. I feel [i]dirty[/i] and somehow [i]sullied[/i] even typing the letters - [b]wearing a full face helmet with lycra[/b] <spits>

Couldn't give a monkeys about the rest so can't be bothered sorting them.


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 10:19 pm
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it seems there are just more gays around now.

i think it's hereditary!!

heard of several b&bs that wouldn't take unmarried couples.

stayed at a gay b&b - best breakfast burrito i've ever had.

people are always trying to give me and my mate double rooms on biking trips.

make of that what you will...


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 10:55 pm
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make of that what you will...

You're gay ?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 11:01 pm
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You're gay ?

what happens in llandudno stays in llandudno! 😯


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 11:10 pm
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[i]So we should just let people get away with all the trivial things then?[/i]

She's not "getting away" with anything. She considers two men sharing a bed to be immoral, so is perfectly entitled to decline their business. Whether any of us think it's immoral or not isn't the issue. She didn't advocate violence or hatred towards them, just politely said she'd rather they stayed somewhere else.

You'd like to think the police had "proper crimes" to investigate.

These threads are always interesting in that those who preach tolerance of all things are generally the first to be intolerant of anyone who doesn't share their views.


 
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whoosh!

If its a biblical thing then I imagine it was a lucky escape, the stuff about no bacon and pork is in the bible too so the breakfast would have been rubbish.

True, but at least you would have got pure cotton sheets - no mixing of fibres, you see...


 
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