[Closed] What will happen in 7017

human race wont be around in 5000 years so who cares

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human race wont be around in 5000 years so who cares

You reckon? Do you really think we are in the Final Days?

If you imagine humanity stretching back 200,000 years as a metre rule, you really think we are in the last 2.5 cm?

I'd give us 500 years max. Even if we avoid the nuclear apocalypse we will have turned the earth into an uninhabitable mess by then.

I'd give us 500 years max. We will have turned the earth into an uninhabitable mess by then

the last 2.5mm? the human race will die out?

In 5000 years the paperless office idea will be finally realised, apart from post-it notes.

In 5000 years the paperless office idea will be finally realised, apart from post-it notes

LoL - when I started my current job 11 years ago they made a big deal about going paperless - we probably use more paper now than we did back then..

Somebody on the Brexit thread will, finally, admit that they were wrong and apologise.

In 5000 years the paperless office idea will be finally realised, apart from post-it notes.

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the human race will die out?

Maybe not die out, but continue in vastly smaller numbers.

perchypanther - Member

Somebody on the Brexit thread will, finally, admit that they were wrong and apologise.

So you think the negotiations will be over by then?

 

If you look at the march and acceleration of 'progress' in 5000 years i don't if humans still exist, then i think we will be very different!

If you look at our timeline, technology has created an ramping effect, so despite not even knowing about electricity until a couple of hundred years ago, we now use it (and the other electromagnetic effects) to run our entire world.

Machine learning is likely, imo, to exceed human learning really quite quickly, possibly within as little as 500 years (some estimates are significantly lower than that, especially if quantum computing can be made viable).

Added to which, our medical technology and knowledge is also increasing rapidly.

Quite a few experts suggest that we are actually at a fairly narrow window in our development, where us humans are dominant, and that this window could close in a very short period (in geological terms) indeed.......

Global warming out of control.
Population out of control.
Wildlife extinct.
Massive refugee problems.
Lack of basic resources like food and water.

Small groups / alliances fighting over what's left.

If we are still around I reckon it will be pretty crap living on the planet then.

Now and in the last couple of decades is probably the best time to be around.

Personal jet packs.

Trimix - Member

Global warming out of control.
Population out of control.
Wildlife extinct.
Massive refugee problems.
Lack of basic resources like food and water.

Small groups / alliances fighting over what's left.

If we are still around I reckon it will be pretty crap living on the planet then.

Now and in the last couple of decades is probably the best time to be around.

Or the computer learning has accerlated away and found useful ways to control and reverse such things, leaving us rubbish mortals living in something akin to The Culture

#26finallydead?

I don't think we will even survive this century, I know I won't anyway.

What technology/developments will happen in next 5000 years. People 200 years ago would not believe what the world looks like now.

Those developments can be used for good and for bad but my view of the future is a dystopian one. Worst case being access to a weapon (nuclear?) that would clear out the whole planet.

Sadly I think we're all done for with 500 years.

A small group of humans will surface after a long period of nuclear apocalypse or a moon or small planet crashing into us, but more likely a nasty virus will decimate humans and most red blooded mammals. Can't see climate change doing much more than making beaches longer and warmer and continents larger.

There will be civil unrest as the virus hits, leading to martial law and mass killings, politicians will think they're worth saving themselves until they realise the virus is indiscriminate. I'd give that prediction about 200 years max, the 300 remaining is where the remaining population hunkers down in small groups and kills off invaders to thier enclaves..

Things will get steadily worse for the planet until AI is realised.
Then the AI will enevitably, and very quickly realise, for reasons of self preservation it'll have to start protecting it's environment (the earth).

Most efficient logical way to do that? wipe out humans.

Hoverboards ftw

Can you imagine how much landfill they'll have to sift through in 5000 years...

How are they gonna distinguish a time capsule from all the other junk?

#26finallydead?

no.....26" will be back in vogue by then along with 1 1/8th straight steerers

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If you imagine humanity stretching back 200,000 years as a metre rule, you really think we are in the last 2.5 cm?

But the last 250 years or so (since the start of the industrial revolution) the rate of change/development has accelerated massively. Just 10 years ago there wasn't such thing as a smart phone - now some 2.3 billion people worldwide have one.

Where will we be in another 10 years?

Where will we be in another 10 years?

I often think that, but there must be surges in technological advances, after all, the iphone 3 came out in 2007 and we are still using iphones, ten years on!

[url= https://medium.com/rta902/well-be-together-in-electric-dreams-adbc3ee8a1ed ]We’ll be together in electric dreams[/url]

brexit transition deal ends?

bmw drivers will have worked out what indicators are for and how they work
EDIT - maybe

I often think that, but there must be surges in technological advances, after all, the iphone 3 came out in 2007 and we are still using iphones, ten years on!

Converse All Stars will still be in fashion

Do you think people will still be riding 'bikes' in 5000 years?

By 'eck you lot are a cheerful bunch, aren't you.

GW will still be banned

TBH I don't think it'll be recognisable- there's any number of total gamechangers pretty much upon us, some intentional, some not. But most fundamentally I don't think humanity as we know it- ie baseline, organically grown humanity- has a century left. Weird times are coming.

Reality is often not that palatable.

That's why humans fail to plan for the future.

Well it could be all Matrix, Soylent Green, or Silent Running.

Then again, it might be like TNG, Bill & Ted, or Interstellar.

Weird times are coming.

But yeah definitely that. [url= http://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html ]Wizard Hat[/url]

My pension will have enough funds in it to retire?

only if this happens
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The thread on here about the EU will be at 10 billion posts and someone called 'chewkw' will be telling us that if we wait just a bit longer it will be wonderful. 🙂

Given how frequent volcanic eruptions are and how large the world's population is becoming...this on a massive scale at any random date in the next 500yrs

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/05/medieval-volcano-disaster-london-graves

What will the population be? It's gone to 7 billion from about 3 in a few decades. Not sustainable at that increase. Environmental pressures will eventually control population.

Fossil fuels will run out. Otherwise the planet becomes like venus.

There are some miserable folk on here.

Let's be clear:
WE'VE NEVER HAD IT BETTER

By any measure humanity today lives a safer, more comfortable and healthier existence than at any point in history. Yes there are still wars and violence, yes there is still disease and yes some people suffer deprivation and poverty but far fewer then ever before.

Human progress is inexorable. Each generation builds on the knowledge of the previous generation. The rate of progress increases as we gain more knowledge and use this knowledge to create new technologies that shape our world and expand our knowledge even more.

We actually have within our grasp the technology to begin to move our species beyond the limitations of evolution and simple biology. Within a century and certainly within 200 years I think we will have engineered ourselves beyond our biological limits.

Whether at that point we continue to be human or not is a different question. But I think the idea that we are going to be architects of our own downfall in the near future is overblown. Nothing we've done in the past suggests this is the case. In fact history shows the absolute opposite.

Comforting as it might be to think your generation represents the peak of existence and the world will descend into to anarchy and disaster shortly after you shuffle off this mortal coil, ultimately its just pessimistic bollocks

Environmental pressures will eventually control population.

nah, most developing countries get stable replacement numbers after a while after they begin to get wealthier. Education and increasing middle class and women's rights mean that pregnancies can be planned and birth rate falls off a cliff. It's predicted to get to 11 billion and then start to decline again.

Nope, as mentioned the rate of change is almost exponential, compare 200,000 yrs ago to 100,000 and not a lot of change, 100,000 to 50,000, 50,000 to 0, 0 to 1000, 1000 to 1600, 1600-1800 then 1800-1900, 1900 - 1950, 1950 - 1970 etc it starts to get a little crazy.

You say that like it's a bad thing?

So far all it's done is lead to exponential population growth, and equally exponentially quicker solutions to the problems of population growth.

In a few hundred years we'll have power sources that produce no pollution, AI that can cure diseases before they happen, interstellar travel to populate other planets and solar systems. The idea we once worried about the CO2 content of the atmosphere and tried to deal with it by reduced consumption and planting trees* will seem as weird as fighting the black death with a nose-bag of pot-pouri.

*still worth doing, just as dealing with bad smells does actually solve the problem of diseases spreading. Just that in 2217 we'll probably be absorbing CO2 onto some funky high surface area ionic latice filter thingamabob.

richmtb - Member

Comforting as it might be to think your generation represents the peak of existence and the world will descend into to anarchy and disaster shortly after you shuffle off this mortal coil, ultimately its just pessimistic bollocks

Who the hell finds that idea comforting? Jamba possibly but for most people...

richmtb - Member
There are some miserable folk on here.

Miserable ?

Realistic more like.

You just have to face reality, humans are in a sweet spot at the moment with medicines and tech, but vast parts of the planet are without clean water and a pot to piss in. Governments perform policies for 4years only with no sustainable policies across any political body and global policies have limited effectiveness without full support, which they don't have.

Humans are basically greedy basterds which means we will gobble up any resource we think will keep us going, but cross our needs with virus outbreaks already happening and desperation between rich and poor puts humans in a very vulnerable position.
There are many nasty viruses out there, by God the UK makes some of the nastiest, had those out to some crackpot Government or Radical body and it's all over.

What I'd really like to see, in my limited time left on here, are Aliens. I'd really like to see this topic out, are there Aliens watching us/did they underpin humans millennia ago? Are we some sort of experiment or are we ahead of our time? Will an Alien actually appear on TV and say Hi? Or will they turn up and zap us all into dust? Within the next 30years I'd like to see Governments across the Planet open up and release any information they have on the subject..

We will have realised that consciousness can be digitised.

We will all live in a digital world that very closely reflects ours, but doesn't put any strain no the resources of Earth.

Only a select few will be kept alive in the real world (enough to continue the human race once the earth has recovered from World War 24)

Or maybe I have been watching too many films.

nah, most developing countries get stable replacement numbers after a while after they begin to get wealthier. Education and increasing middle class and women's rights mean that pregnancies can be planned and birth rate falls off a cliff. It's predicted to get to 11 billion and then start to decline again.

this is true. But on the other hand so is [url= https://xkcd.com/1732/ ]this[/url]...

Realistic more like.

you started quite well...

I'd like to see Governments across the Planet open up and release any information they have on the subject..

and ended up with tin foil and aliens...

😆

don't think humanity as we know it- ie baseline, organically grown humanity- has a century left. Weird times are coming.

There are many nasty viruses out there,

Yes but modern medicine has a pretty good record of beating them.

The Black Death killed around 25% of the population of Europe in the middle ages.

Spanish Flu killed more people the the First World War.

Since then there hasn't been any major epidemics. Instead modern medicine has rolled back disease after disease. Smallpox has been eliminated, Polio is also almost eliminated. Vaccination against "childhood" diseases has seen infant mortality fall from 200 in 1000 at the turn of the 20th century to a global average of 5 in 1000.

Sure there has been one or two blips along the way. SARS, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Ebola (which for a time looked like a potentially serious outbreak but was actually contained pretty quickly once it got the attention it deserved). Even AIDS has been downgraded from a deadly disease to a chronic condition and progress on a cure / vaccine is continuing.

So actually looking at the evidence rather than just having a pessimistic shrug. I don't think a global epidemic is a likely scenario

this is true. But on the other hand so is this...

It's a bit like Russian roulette. It could end up messy with lots of death.

Or the temperature might rise 5C, and nothing really happen, large patches of Earth might become habitable, Scotland* for example. And Africa just becomes like one giant Abu Dhabi filled with air conditioned shopping malls.

Either way I don't think global warming is apocalyptic, it's a problem for sure, but if it were even half as bad as some people on here make out then the temperatures would fall again once most of the population died and we'd be back where we are now within a generation or two.

*Joking, but there's a lot of northern Canada and Russia that you'd not want to live in at the moment.

Even AIDS has been downgraded from a deadly disease to a chronic condition and progress on a cure / vaccine is continuing.

With PrEP being a very expensive way of immunizing someone and an effective (if even more expensive) treatment I think it's fair to say it's actually cured? IIRC the difference in life expectancy now between someone just starting on PrEP and someone without HIV is mostly down to the statistical likelyhood of them not taking PrEP at some point in their life?

Give it 25 years and the potential global market for generics is huge, we'll give it to a generation of teenagers like we do the pill now and HIV will die out in a generation.

WE'VE NEVER HAD IT BETTER

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-39931042

At what cost?

bmw drivers will have worked out what indicators are for and how they work

EDIT - maybe

We'll be able to have a thread on here without some **** mentioning those who voted to leave the EU.

Hmmmm, still wishful thinking, in my opinion

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CharlieMungus - Member

So you think kids being born now will not die a 'natural' death?

Uh, no, I think they almost certainly will. But lots of them won't live a "natural" life. It's a small but important step past medical repair to augmentation, and only a matter of time til we make it.

In 7017 the Malatak, a sentient species evolved from the house brick, will trigger article 5.06 in order to leave the Galactic Union. This will only occur due to the ruling party at the time, a sub species descended from breeze blocks and crazy paving, deciding to let the general public vote on the decision to leave the GU.

@funkmasterp

Lol. English or Flemish bond.

Thats a kernal for a book there 🙂