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The North Yorks Moors. Mile after mile of heather and sheep and pretty well much nothing else.

So what do they do? [url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/8270264.stm ]Put an illuminated sign up telling you there are sheep there.[/url]
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Posted : 23/09/2009 9:21 am
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I wonder how much it costs the taxpayer to clean up after over 200 dead sheep?
About 30 years ago my parents ran into a sheep one night near the Wrekin whilst driving at about 60 mph, it effectively wrote their car off.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 9:26 am
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carrion feeders will deal with the dead sheep, just drag it on to the verge.

As for the mess of the car, that's insurance's job to make good your parents mistake aP.

at an average of £60 per lamb/hoggett/ewe that's about £15k a year in agricultural losses. Insured probably.

I bet each sign probably costs about £15k.

cant see the value myself, nor indeed the economic trail - who pays for the signs? - local council tax payers: who benefits from the signs? - insurers? local farmers?


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 9:29 am
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Knowing that road pretty well, I think it's a good idea. Some cars absolutely zap along, and the sheep are s-tup-id.

Wether (!)or not it will have an effect, I don't know. At least they intend to monitor that instead of leaving it there,


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 9:31 am
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My point is really - why put a sign up telling you there are sheep when all you can ****ing see for mile after mile is ****ing sheep. If seeing a real sheep doesn't register in the idiot driver's head, why do they think a flashing sign with a picture of a sheep on it will?

Bl00dy daft.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 9:31 am
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My point is really - why put a sign up telling you there are sheep when all you can ****ing see for mile after mile is ****ing sheep. If seeing a real sheep doesn't register in the idiot driver's head, why do they think a flashing sign with a picture of a sheep on it will?
It's likely because they need to be seen to be doing something. The Authority will have been given a target of reducing accidents and installing a sign is cheap. They can then say that they are working on reducing accidents. Unfortunately you have a bit of common sense and have realised that it wont make much (any?) difference to drivers.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 10:10 am
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Last year, 239 sheep and lambs died on open moor roads in the park after being hit by vehicles.

Clearly someone needs to be warned. Same reason we need flashing speed limit signs.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 10:20 am
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If seeing a real sheep doesn't register in the idiot driver's head, why do they think a flashing sign with a picture of a sheep on it will?

Because it might be dark? Because people might be under the mistaken impression that sheep have some awareness of traffic? Because the costs of clearing up a dead sheep actually extend beyond the basic cost of replacing the luckless side of mutton? Because insurance is expensive enough without having to rely on it?

In any event, even if this is a waste of cash, I'm all for pointless expenditures of taxpayer's money if it means amusing pun-based newspaper headlines. I've already come up with "SHEAR LUNACY", "THEY CAN RAM IT" and "***KED TUP". Anyone got any more? 🙂


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 10:26 am
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I bet each sign probably costs about £15k.

Where are you buying your signs Stoner???? I think you need to shop around a bit!


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 10:31 am
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numptiness the signs need placing a bit lower then at least they'd be easier for the sheep to read - i've never seen a 6ft tall sheep but i guess maybe the big ones don't go near the roads


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 10:37 am
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Where are you buying your signs Stoner???? I think you need to shop around a bit!

I bet they cost at least that - illuminated, solar-powered....


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 10:40 am
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Pah. We don't get illuminated sheep signs round here. it's a postcode lottery.
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Posted : 23/09/2009 10:42 am
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I bet they cost at least that - illuminated, solar-powered....

Well it wouldn't surprise me that a local council or government agency would be stupid enough to pay that much for them, but the actual cost of manufacture is probably in the hundreds.

You can get solar powered shed lights for a tenner. Add some simple speed detection, weather proofing and a pole. Job done.

The article I linked to above says "VAS signs cost between £1,600 and £6,000" and even that seems pretty damn expensive to me.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 10:53 am
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commercial quality solar pv systems will be around £5k+ before VAT and as soon as public sector prcurement machinations get involved you can double that at least! 🙂


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 10:55 am
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Anyway, let's not get all serious on this - it was only ever meant as a light-hearted post. I just found it amusing that an expanse populated almost entirely by sheep was found to need a flashing sign telling people that there are sheep there.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 11:04 am
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Maybe its time to experiement with sighs of the verges showing the sheep that there is a road with cars?


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 11:25 am
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Anyway, let's not get all serious on this - it was only ever meant as a light-hearted post. I just found it amusing that an expanse populated almost entirely by sheep was found to need a flashing sign telling people that there are sheep there.

You're forgetting just how stupid and unaware of their environment the average motorist is.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 11:28 am
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I've already come up with "SHEAR LUNACY", "THEY CAN RAM IT" and "***KED TUP". Anyone got any more?

"TOTALLY BAAAAARMY"?

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Posted : 23/09/2009 11:30 am
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I just found it amusing that an expanse populated almost entirely by sheep was found to need a flashing sign telling people that there are sheep there.

Surely it says more about the stupidity of drivers that drive along that road. Slow down ffs...

If we had GPS controlled speed limiters in cars, then we wouldn't need signs telling people to slow down!! 😉


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 11:40 am
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Surely it says more about the stupidity of drivers that drive along that road. Slow down ffs...

You're forgetting just how stupid and unaware of their environment the average motorist is.

No I am not...

[i]If seeing a real sheep doesn't register in the idiot driver's head, why do they think a flashing sign with a picture of a sheep on it will?[/i]

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Posted : 23/09/2009 11:45 am
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If we had GPS controlled speed limiters in cars, then we wouldn't need signs telling people to slow down!!

Yer you would. I nearly hit several young sheep on the A68 approaching Carter Bar (Scottish/English border).

I was well under the speed limit (it's all hills and corners as you approach) and had to do a full emergency stop because they were just standing in the middle of the road on the brow of the hill.

I backed up, put my hazards on and contemplated whether to risk getting out and attempting to chase them back into the field.

Fortunately several ewes started shouting at them in motherly-sounding bleats and they all scurried back under the fence, looking very.. er.. "sheepish".


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 11:47 am
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"WOOLY THINKING"
"EWE COULDN'T MAKE IT UP"
"SCRAPIE-ING THE BARREL"

They just write themselves, really...


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 11:53 am
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"EWE COULDN'T MAKE IT UP" is the winner I think.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 1:10 pm