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Hi All

Don't know if anyone is interested, but as there seems to be a lot of disquiet with the idea of Brexit/Article 50, there are marches planned for this Saturday to try and get the views of the other 48% and those excluded from voting noticed by the Government.

https://www.uniteforeurope.co.uk/

It'd be good if anyone could do London/Edinburgh/wherever else there are marches if they care about the outcome.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 4:42 pm
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Meh...


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 4:49 pm
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Willrab - do you believe that "brexit can be stopped" and that the wishes of the 48% should outweigh the wishes of the 52% ?


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:03 pm
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The 48 can vote for a party committed to the UK rejoining the EU


 
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I'm afraid I've adopted the Mastermind "we've started so we'll finish" attitude to Brexit. Let's just get it done with. Having voted remain, personally i think it will do this country more harm than good to try and backtrack on that once in a generation referendum result.

Ironically, Brexit may well force the EU to change into something more people would have voted to remain.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:27 pm
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Ironically, Brexit may well force the EU to change into something more people would have voted to remain.

Precisely - it will eventually get leaner / more pragmatic, but we won't reap the benefits. But I am sure trading with NZ will help offset the loss.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:32 pm
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Yay a march to solve all! 😕


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:38 pm
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Will there be achingly witty placards?


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:38 pm
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depends if anyone has access to some board and a selection of coloured markers


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 5:44 pm
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The fight now isn't to undo brexit, it's happening next Wednesday, Leave lied about pretty much everything, but the sad thing is a lot of people just don't care.

The fight now is to remind May that she promised a deal for both sides of the argument, not just the UKIPers she's so worried about for 2020.


 
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The fight now is to remind May that she promised a deal for both sides of the argument, not just the UKIPers she's so worried about for 2020.

With a 16% lead in the polls that must be it.


 
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Oh goody, another Brexit post!......


 
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Ironically, Brexit may well force the EU to change into something more people would have voted to remain.

I would like to think that it would reform itself, but there are powerful voices saying otherwise, like Junker admitting that fear will be used to keep other countries in the bloc.

[url= http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/like-or-lump-the-eu-divorce-bill-juncker-tells-may-dc6vhlww8 ]http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/like-or-lump-the-eu-divorce-bill-juncker-tells-may-dc6vhlww8[/url]


 
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Unite for Europe March

For one moment I thought I was reading a football team in Europe ... 😛

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... like Junker admitting that fear will be used to keep other countries in the bloc.
Junker the tool who peddles fear will soon know his place.


 
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Junker the tool who peddles fear will soon know his place.

Aye, he'll be sitting in his mansion, still collecting his 7 figure salary, quietly sobbing, muttering - 'I wish I was that chewkw, spending all my time posting horseshite on singletrack'...


 
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You do horse shite a disservice that at least has benefits for my veg plot.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 7:33 pm
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😆


 
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Willrab - do you believe that "brexit can be stopped" and that the wishes of the 48% should outweigh the wishes of the 52% ?

I believe that the voices of those 48% (and almost certainly rising) should be heard rather than "shut up, we won, you lost, get over it, two world wars and one world cup doo dah."

Do you believe that half of the country should just be completely ignored, that they should be oppressed and bullied into silence? That's no democracy I recognise.


 
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**** the 48%. They lost. Is it such a hard concept to understand.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 7:55 pm
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Scotland is nice this time of year how about a 48 percent increase in population.


 
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I'm afraid I've adopted the Mastermind "we've started so we'll finish" attitude to Brexit. Let's just get it done with. Having voted remain, personally i think it will do this country more harm than good to try and backtrack on that once in a generation referendum result.

Ironically, Brexit may well force the EU to change into something more people would have voted to remain.


What he^^ said.


 
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Aye, he'll be sitting in his mansion, still collecting his 7 figure salary, quietly sobbing, muttering - 'I wish I was that chewkw, spending all my time posting horseshite on singletrack'...

I rather he retires then cause more hardship to millions of people after all hasn't he leeched off enough in his job so what's else does he want? 😆

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You do horse shite a disservice that at least has benefits for my veg plot.
😆


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 8:27 pm
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Junker admitting that fear will be used to keep other countries in the bloc.

Bomb Luxembourg.
That'll teach the lying bent bastard.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 8:30 pm
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Civil war or STFU.


 
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oh bugger it i can't resist

**** the 48%. They lost. Is it such a hard concept to understand.

no the 100% lost. its just the 48% were right.

ah that felt better.


 
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Zaneland I have never been beaten in my life - the remain resistance and the EU popular front will fight on...... and shit on Brexiteers at all opportunities.


 
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I don't believe that May should be given free reign to do as she pleases with Brexit, especially given the information coming out of David Davis' mouth at the Commons Select Committee last week.

If May's arguments against a Scottish Indy Ref 2 are to be believed she's either missed the idea of irony or is a massive hypocrite.

Without some kind of either parliamentary scrutiny or a referendum on the outcome of negotiations we'll be the only country in the EU without any kind of ratification or scrutiny of the deal, hardly taking back control.

With so many people currently in limbo due to this I think the Tory party's game is ruining many peoples lives and should have some kind of scrutiny.


 
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the remain resistance and the EU popular front

How's things, Wolfie?


 
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I believe that the voices of those 48% (and almost certainly rising) should be heard rather than "shut up, we won, you lost, get over it, two world wars and one world cup doo dah."

Do you believe that half of the country should just be completely ignored, that they should be oppressed and bullied into silence? That's no democracy I recognise.

+1!


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 8:36 pm
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Sometimes it is good to admit defeat than trying to hang on to the losing grounds to cause more troubles. 😆


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 8:39 pm
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**** the 48%. They lost. Is it such a hard concept to understand.

This isn't a football match.

We want May to listen to us when coming up with a new deal. Is that such a hard concept to understand?


 
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Tooting Popular front - bunch of light weights... CFH we are the Northumbria National Resistance proper hard-core..


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 8:49 pm
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no the 100% lost. its just the 48% were right.

I may borrow that line.


 
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Northumbria National Resistance

Splitters.

🙂


 
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We want May to listen to us when coming up with a new deal. Is that such a hard concept to understand?

What do you have to say or to offer deal wise? 😯


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 8:51 pm
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What do you have to say or offer deal wise?

Or you know, maybe Parliament have a say? You know, because they want Parliamentary Sovereignty?

If they're so confident they'll get a good deal why are they so scared of having scrutiny?

The referendum didn't say what kind of exit we'd get, surely parliament having a view would be good for democracy?


 
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**** the 48%. They lost. Is it such a hard concept to understand.

It's hard to argue against such a well formed argument, but I'll have a go.

Democracy, the word that the Leavers hold so sacrosanct, is the representation of the population, not just the ones you agree with. If the vote had gone the other way by the same narrow margin, I'd be all for parliamentary change to address the reasons why many people voted Leave.

Oh I don't know why I bother, it's like playing chess with a pigeon.


 
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I may borrow that line.


 
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48% is not half, 50% is half, anything above 50% is a majority.


 
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Anyway. The reason this thread wasn't closed as a duplicate is that it was to discuss the march, rather than retread the same ground as the huge one. You want to argue leave vs remain, or want to be a patronising bell-end, go do it there. I'll be aggressively deleting off-topic conversation from here on in.
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Zaneland I have never been beaten in my life

Swoon, my hero.


 
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So, the march then. Is anyone here going? I can't, unfortunately.


 
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Don't Zanelad I am filling up...


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 9:23 pm
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Marching is not going to do any good other then stirring up sentiment amongst people who are trying to move on.


 
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You are proper funny Chewkw


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 9:29 pm
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chewk says........... dont protest just blindly obey your brexit masters

Im going to try and go down later


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 9:30 pm
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Seems odd to be concerned about something that isn't going to achieve anything, TBH.


 
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We're planning on going. Taking the dog too. On a string. 😀


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 9:34 pm
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Stay classy, DD. (-:


 
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I did not say follow blindly but at least wait until the A50 is signed or whatever deal is done, then decide if they are good for you. Isn't that the rational way forward rather than trying to jump to conclusion?

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Seems odd to be concerned about something that isn't going to achieve anything, TBH.
They are just going to cause more troubles to people all over the country. Some people just want to move on ...

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We're planning on going. Taking the dog too. On a string.

Why take the dog? What if the dog get injured when the protestors start to go a bit wild?


 
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But nobody has said what they hope the march will achieve or what the government should listen to ? I would imagine that would be "scrap brexit", but that's not going to happen is it.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 9:40 pm
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So, the march then. Is anyone here going?

If I can organize a wheelchair and transport.
If only to show citizens of the EU that *I don't hate them, as a lot feel like that, which is no way to treat your **family!

*Not saying that those not attending do hate them.
**Literally; my family is founded by various immigrants, plenty from Europe.


 
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Why take the dog?

Can I take you instead? On a string? You can be my pet Brexiteer? Everybody can stroke you. I get the feeling you don't often get human contact. It'll be nice.

Actually thinking about it, I'll take the dog. She makes more sense than you.


 
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* the 48%. They lost. Is it such a hard concept to understand.

Possibly the least helpful response from a brexiteer I've heard. And that's ****ing saying something. **


 
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Marching is not going to do any good other then stirring up sentiment amongst people who are trying to move on.

Marching is good for the sole (pun intended) speshially when accompanied by some jaunty tunes, gotta keep in step though 😉


 
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'Everyone should be free to support and believe in whatever sparks life into them. Ignore detractors because their voice is just white noise, listen to the voice inside yourself and believe in the conviction and passion.

The internet is full of angry do nothing arseholes, intent on disruption and fear.

Fuel your belief in what stirs your soul.


 
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Can I take you instead? On a string? You can be my pet Brexiteer? Everybody can stroke you. I get the feeling you don't often get human contact. It'll be nice.
Pet Brexiteer? I think you got that term wrong as we love our pet(s). No, I find marching and protesting so time wasting ... human contact is overrated.

Actually thinking about it, I'll take the dog. She makes more sense than you.
Dogs are wonderful aren't they. All animals are wonderful unlike the human ... 😛

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Marching is good for the sole (pun intended) speshially when accompanied by some jaunty tunes, gotta keep in step though
Marching is only good if there is a purpose ...


 
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I'll march so long as there's no sassenachs, the complete fuddy gobshites.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 11:43 pm
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Racist.

"Fuddy?"


 
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I believe that the voices of those 48% (and almost certainly rising) should be heard rather than "shut up, we won, you lost, get over it, two world wars and one world cup doo dah."

Congratulations on quoting 2 questions and not answering either of them.

Do you believe that Brexit can be stopped and that the wishes of the 48% should outweigh the wishes of the majority ?


 
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Don't know if it can be stopped but given the closeness of the result, the importance of the outcome, and the number of people who either voted on false premises or have wavered since, I don't think it's unreasonable to give the matter some consideration.

I'd march if I could be there.


 
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It was far from a unanimous decision, as said above if the people most affected by this vote had been included there is a very good chance it would have turned out differently. And opinions do change as new information comes to light. On the day Martin McGuiness dies, the reflection is that everyone has a chance to reconsider no matter what was thoought in the past.

The big issue to me is that our elected representatives; the ones who should be raising the concerns are waving things through virtually unfettered. And if the elected representatives won't represent me, I'll have to do it for myself.


 
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Well this thread opens your eyes to the thought process of Brexit supporters

Stay classy Zaneland 🙄

Can't make Saturday but will be interesting to see the turnout.


 
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Speaking of the visibility of thought processes... How much frothing and reporting and general hand-wringing would be going on if a Brexit-voter had posted a picture of a noose in response to a post discussing a foreigner...?


 
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human contact is overrated.

That explains an awful lot about you..


 
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We're planning on going. Taking the dog too. On a string.

Following one of the anti-capitaist marches a few (many) years ago two rasta sporting hippy types where on the bus complete with dog on a string. A fiesty old lady from East London absolutely battered them about having a wash and getting a job. She got a few mentions in about the war and how we hadn't fought amd died so they could be tramps. Tremendous stuff, beat live rant I have ever seen 🙂

Nope not going on the march, will have a celebration on Wed 29th though.


 
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What should the Remoaners equivalent of a pussy hat look like? Something bold and clear in message... 😉


 
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I assume you concealed the fact that you were masturbating at the time jamba? That kind of jingoistic "we didn't fight a war..." talk must have given you the right old horn.


 
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Speaking of the visibility of thought processes... How much frothing and reporting and general hand-wringing would be going on if a Brexit-voter had posted a picture of a noose in response to a post discussing a foreigner...?

It was a joke but you're right, it was in very poor taste (and anything to do with "foreigners" hadn't crossed my mind). I'll remove the offending post.

Congratulations on quoting 2 questions and not answering either of them.

Do you believe that Brexit can be stopped and that the wishes of the 48% should outweigh the wishes of the majority ?

Not that it has any relevance to this thread: I don't know, and no.


 
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Stay classy, DD. (-:

Guess not


 
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Do you believe that Brexit can be stopped and that the wishes of the 48% should outweigh the wishes of the majority ?

Not that it has any relevance to this thread: I don't know, and no.

Do you think the considerations and concerns of the 48% - plus the 1.5 million 16-18 year olds who weren't given a vote - should now be brushed aside?

"**** the 48%"


 
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Sat 25th?

I'm busy getting on with my life that day.


 
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plus the 1.5 million 16-18 year olds who weren't given a vote - should now be brushed aside?

Don't forget all the weasels, stoats and badgers who were denied a vote!

But lets not count the otters - leavers, the lot of 'em.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 9:13 am
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For those that would prefer a more relevant march on Saturday, they'll be one in Uppermill and Yarm. It's a joint demonstration to get these two great towns back into the fold that is Yorkshire. Freeeeeedommmm


 
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It was only the older uneducated otters that voted out


 
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Ageist!


 
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Following one of the anti-capitaist marches a few (many) years ago two rasta sporting hippy types where on the bus complete with dog on a string. A fiesty old lady from East London absolutely battered them about having a wash and getting a job. She got a few mentions in about the war and how we hadn't fought amd died so they could be tramps. Tremendous stuff, beat live rant I have ever seen

That's pretty shitty, to be fair, that all they are to you, without knowing anything about them except what they look like, is an amusing story about an old lady shouting at poor people. What do you think that says about you?


 
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[url= https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/21/anti-brexit-campaigners-face-conundrum-as-date-is-set-for-article-50 ]https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/21/anti-brexit-campaigners-face-conundrum-as-date-is-set-for-article-50[/url]

16,000 claiming that they will turn up. Given the electorate that isn't a lot of people.

I do hope that the BBC will video the protest with the nice wide lens they used for Trump's inauguration, rather than using a telephoto to make it seem like there is a sea of people there.


 
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Me too.

Got to show support for something you believe in though, rather than become "one of them"


 
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Mince for Europe would be a more accurate description.


 
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