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Should Zelensky step aside in the hope that a successor could establish a better relationship with Trump, for the good of Ukraine?
I don't think Trump's original grudge is with Zelensky personally - Trump manufactured the row because he wants to ditch Ukraine, so he'll do the same to a successor. My understanding is that Zelensky's reputation among his citizens has (on balance) been enhanced by his response to Trump.
For China, Russia and the USA talking territory has to be a win. They aren’t hiding their desire to do the same. Only problem is that some of the places China wants to take is also claimed by Russia. Unlike Taiwan, which is looking more and more at risk.
I don't think Trump's original grudge is with Zelensky personally
trump is likely still upset that Zelensky wouldn't fabricate any evidence of bidens involvement with corruption in Ukraine in 2020, not to mention the point vance raised about Zelensky visiting a US ammo factory during the last election campaign
Just watched Newsnight and the Canadian foreign minister was genuinely concerned by US belligerence and said Canadians no longer found it funny describing their country as the 51 state an d referring to Trudeau as a governor.
Hope Trump's not got similar ideas that Putin had.
not to mention the point vance raised about Zelensky visiting a US ammo factory during the last election campaign
Trump probably thinks he walked round with a daffodil spy camera to get manufacturing secrets, and on the tour he filled up his pockets with artillery shells and rockets that he didn't pay for.
Of course Zelensky would visit an ammo factory in the country providing him with the stuff to support the government that was arranging the assistance. He'd have done it if Trump had been president as well.
The Canada thing has gone quiet on this side of tbe Atlantic. Will he turn his fire that way if Ukraine gets "resolved"?
So JD Pants pissed on the graves of British (and others) soldiers yesterday and suggested that American mining contractors would be a more effective security guarantee that 20,000 soldiers from some random European nation. Despicable just doesn’t seem to cover it anymore!
Should Zelensky stand down? Trump is clearly driven by personality, grudges and relationships. Should Zelensky step aside in the hope that a successor could establish a better relationship with Trump, for the good of Ukraine?
I think that Ukraine would be poorer without President Zelensky who's done a pretty good job under the circumstances.
What President Trump fails to understand is that there's a democracy behind most states and Zelensky is doing what he feels is right for the electorate and as such he's a strong leader.
Zelensky hasn't bowed to Russian pressure and he won't bow to the US and resign. Why? Because Trump v1.0 repeatedly shown himself to be someone who cannot be trusted, e.g. Trump, via Speaker Mike Johnson, obstructed US weapon supplies to Ukraine for several months in late 2023/2024, costing lives in Ukraine and so far this term hasn't sent a single thing to Ukraine while stopping USAID. He's already started to resupply Israel with weapons during this term, while Israel and Egypt were already exempted from USAID cuts.
If he needed confirmation on Trump v2.0 he got that on the 28th and again on the 3rd with the threat to stop weapons supplies.That was a massive business faux pas because although Trump can stop Joe Biden's off the shelf drawdowns, he shouldn't interfere in signed business contracts between Ukraine and US manufacturers, which is where the longer-term supplies are sourced. That's one reason now for international mistrust of US manufacturers
So JD Pants pissed on the graves of British (and others) soldiers yesterday and suggested that American mining contractors would be a more effective security guarantee that 20,000 soldiers from some random European nation.
I find the whole idea of American miners being an effective security guarantee bizarre really, what civilian would agree to go to a warzone as a human shield when their president is cosying up to the aggressor?
I suspect if they were there we would see attacks on these mines like we have seen on the nuclear installations at Zaporizhzhia and Chernobyl that Russia will say was Ukraine and vice versa. It seems clear who Trump would side with.
its a ludicrous position - there were plenty of American contractors in Ukraine prior to the invasion.
If US run mines/industry was overrun by Russian military, Agent Orange would just shrug and work with Putin anyway.
It's a non-starter of a 'deal'. First thing Russia would do is send a drone over, kill some workers/civilians, claim it was a Ukrainian drone - and see what action is (or isn't) taken. Then the peace is shown to be weak and the door ajar to invasion v.3...
I'm honestly starting to think that China is the only one who can step in and sort out this mess, its like a bunch of squabbling school kids at the moment
China are sitting back and laughing, they are Russia's biggest ally, and any concession of land by Ukraine to the Russian's just legitimises China then going into Taiwan for their own land-grab, they have had troops amassed on border for a long time.
This is one of the issues, it has gone past the war in Ukraine, you allow Putin to win there, and you then allow the worlds other autocrats a fair crack at whatever land grab they fancy, then where do you sit on countries like India and Turkey who have ignored sanctions for the continuation of cheap Russian gas, this is why the whole conflict could blow up into something so much bigger.
How things can change in just 45 days. who needs friends like this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cly28qvp83pt
So JD Pants pissed on the graves of British (and others) soldiers yesterday and suggested that American mining contractors would be a more effective security guarantee that 20,000 soldiers from some random European nation. Despicable just doesn’t seem to cover it anymore!
His interview made me chuckle. I can't get upset by the ramblings of a bloke who's military pinnacle was as a tubby photographer. Every HQ motor transport section has a fat gobshite of an NCO like him, even if he's talking (of sorts) about friends of mine.
When a ****wit acts like a ****wit, it should come as no surprise. No matter the heinous shit they chat.
What possible justification has the Trump regime got for denying access to Ukraine for intelligence - other than overtly helping his mass murdering mate in the Kremlin.
just legitimises China then going into Taiwan for their own land-grab, they have had troops amassed on border for a long time.
Agree with the principle, just one minor geographical detail 😉
Latest episode of News Agents discussing the idea that China does not want an expansionist US/Russian axis, and may consider siding with Europe/RoW.
Interesting idea, especially to hear Emily Maitlis being a bit sweary.
What possible justification has the Trump regime got for denying access to Ukraine for intelligence - other than overtly helping his mass murdering mate in the Kremlin.
Came on to say the same thing. What a petty, horrible orange cxxt. I can't ever remember feeling such disgust towards another human being in my life. I despise every single thing about the man.
The aim is to pressure Ukraine into surrendering so that Trump can claim he ended the war. The problem for Trump is other folk have morals. Something he has no notion of.
I can't get upset by the ramblings of a bloke who's military pinnacle was as a tubby photographer
Something which is always worth bearing in mind when talking about the relative military budgets is how in the USA a reasonable part is used to provide what any civilised country provides to everyone.
Sign up for four years to get your free education and healthcare and other benefits for life. Obviously got a bit awkward for a decade or so with a real risk of getting shot at but is returning to normal now and as Vance shows if you plan well you can mostly avoid that inconvenience.
Jonathan Chait sums Trump up in a headline:
The Simple Explanation for Why Trump Turned Against Ukraine
The president’s defenders ignore one possibility: He just likes Putin.
The president’s defenders ignore one possibility: He just likes Putin
I can't read the whole article but it seems to suggest that the issue is personal to Trump, however that doesn't seem to be the case as he enjoys very significant support from US voters with regards to his stance towards Ukraine.
An opinion poll taken straight after the disastrous press conference with Zelensky suggested that 62% thought that Zelensky had been disrespectful, that will clearly include a lot of Democrat voters.
If you look at many aspects of Trump's attitude towards Europe, Ukraine, and Russia, he typically enjoys the support of at least 45% of Americans and often a clear majority.
There are some astonishing findings in the various polls in the article below including that 35% said they considered western European nations to be “friendly but not allies”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/ukraine-russia-support-poll
For me the most surprising finding was this :
But broader support for the current US foreign policy appears more mixed. Sixteen per cent said the US should take a leading role in the world; 67% said it should work equally alongside other allies; and 17% said it should not get involved in the world’s issues.
Who would have thought that only 16% of Americans think that the United States should take a leading role in the world? I guess that involvement in wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq, has taken its toll?
With 35% of Americans not considering European nations to be American allies and only 16% believing that the US should have a leading role in the world, I think this is a wake-up call for British and European politicians and voters, and we need to stop kidding ourselves.
These attitudes won't have come as the result of Trump becoming the US a month or so ago, in fact they might help to explain why he won the presidential election so comfortably.
Russia has been claiming that President Zelensky isn't the rightful leader of Ukraine for months and that elections should be held
March 5 (Reuters) - Four senior members of President Donald Trump's entourage have held discussions with some of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's top political opponents, Politico reported on Wednesday.Talks were held with Ukrainian opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko and senior members of the party of Former President Petro Poroshenko, Politico reported, citing three Ukrainian lawmakers and a U.S. Republican foreign policy expert.Discussions were held on whether Ukraine could have quick presidential elections, according to the report.
Ukraines parliament recently voted overwhelmingly to back Zelenskyy
Jonathan Chait sums Trump up in a headline:
The Simple Explanation for Why Trump Turned Against Ukraine
The president’s defenders ignore one possibility: He just likes Putin.
I'm beginning to wonder at what point the US starts arming Russia in this war...
The latest Newsagents podcast had a suggestion that US belligerence towards Europe might well pivot Europe towards China. Not a bad suggestion as they make better tat than the US. It would be interests of China to make a deal with Ukraine for its lithium.
Those rumours of back channel conversations with Ukraine opposition leaders is a bit disturbing, if true. The down side for the US, is that they all seem united against the idea of elections and back Zelenskyy...I know it might be to warm them up for post-peace deal scenarios. Either way, it's time to look at US actions and prepare for the worst, rather than living in false hope of it all coming good. Some kind of acceptable peace deal might magically appear, and Ukraine allies are still working hard to push for that, but I think they also know there is a less hopeful alternative, which they are also preparing for.
I may have missed them, but I don't recall seeing any of Paul Warburg's videos posted before. I find them considered and informative. This is particularly relevant at the moment. A glimmer of optimism for Ukraine.
There are some astonishing findings in the various polls in the article below including that 35% said they considered western European nations to be “friendly but not allies”
I'm guessing that may be connected to a lack of broader education. Not having a go at Americans, I'm gobsmacked how little my younger colleagues know of 20th century history/geopolitics, but they didn't have grandparents in WW2
I like Paul’s YouTubes
With 35% of Americans not considering European nations to be American allies and only 16% believing that the US should have a leading role in the world, I think this is a wake-up call for British and European politicians and voters, and we need to stop kidding ourselves.
But
67% said it should work equally alongside other allies
Doesn't say who those allies should be though 100-35=65 which is close to 67% and that suggests to me most Americans think the US should work with Europe.
Most Americans probably think Europe is just another state that they haven't visited
That 35% are the maga morons.
I'm guessing that may be connected to a lack of broader education. Not having a go at Americans, I'm gobsmacked how little my younger colleagues know of 20th century history/geopolitics, but they didn't have grandparents in WW2
History is easier to remember when you have nice well defined wars with clear beginning and end dates to act as a reference point (and relatives who were actively participating in the war, of course).
Wars these days tend to begin and end ambiguously. If you asked me to describe the history of Iraq over the last 20 years I can more or less remember when it was invaded. After that, I'm not so sure what happened and when it 'finished'.
There's a lot of history and it's not all centered around the UK. Not that I would have gotten that impression from my history classes in school. As far as that was concerned, history was the First World War, what happened between the wars, and the Second World War.
When we (ie, those of us of a certain age educated in the UK) collectively had the same highly focused history education it's easy to think those who don't have the same grasp of dates and places we do to be lacking education. We're now a quarter of the way through this century. I don't think it's surprising that the relevance of the previous century is fading.
I hope people in the non-MAGA world hold the Trump regime directly responsible for lives and infrastructure now lost due to them pulling away intelligence and support from Ukraine.
Normally this sort of thing would warrant it's own thread, but not these days...
Tusk pointed out Ukraine was invaded after it got rid of its own nuclear arsenal, adding Warsaw would like to acquire its own nuclear weapons, however remote a possibility that may be.
"Today, it is clear that we would be safer if we had our own nuclear arsenal, that is beyond doubt. In any case the road to that would be very long and there would have to be a consensus too," he said.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy83r93l208o
And that was dropped into an article talking about training all adult males for war and increasing the standing army to 500,000.
I can see a number of European states wanting nuclear weapons if the US is serious about isolationism.
Not great, but it makes sense
I can see a number of European states wanting nuclear weapons if the US is serious about isolationism.
Not great, but it makes sense
Unfortunately the US has thrown a wrench into the nuclear non-proliferated works.
A European umbrella held by the UK and France would have been sufficient a couple of months ago, but states are seeing a world where nuclear powers can withhold support on a whim.
Can we rely on someone else, sheltered by several countries and a prevailing wind, to launch their nukes in our defence? No? We'd better get our own then
Another advancement of the Doomsday Clock
It’s actually worse than that. If Russia and the US are effectively allies, then MAD is no longer in play. So a first strike by Russia is much more likely if the target isn’t the US.
So a first strike by Russia is much more likely if the target isn’t the US.
I wouldn't say "much" more. Consider the population centres of Russia; a fair chunk of the population live in Moscow and St Petersburg (around 18-20mn.)
Istanbul is the only city in Europe that has a larger population than Moscow (technically, it straddles the Asia/Europe border)
While a country has strong conventional defences then it's unlikely to resort to nuclear weapons, which can be a two-edged sword because to match Russia the Convention on Cluster Munitions (CCM) and Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on their Destruction are already up for discussion. Lithuania withdrew from the CCM three days ago
Russia isn't a signatory to the CCM and the US was able to supply Ukraine (also not signatories) when supplies of "normal" unitary munitions were hard to get.
I'm beginning to wonder at what point the US starts arming Russia in this war...
Probably unlikely, but...
So US intelligence sharing and assistance is switched back on and Ukraine agrees to a 30 day ceasefire. Onus now on Russia to reciprocate. Also, more positive noises from the US about a "secure" peace for Ukraine. Without knowing how much of the family silver Ukraine has had to agree to give up, a pause in the slaughter has got to be good news?
It's a positive sign, depending on how much Ukraine is having to sacrifice to achieve it. Progress on the mineral deal as well.
Is there still radio silence from russia atm? I'm not on Twitter/X anymore so a bit out of the loop...
Seems so. They've made noise before about not wanting a short ceasefire, as it will just allow Ukraine to rearm and regroup, even though that also applies to them. And even though they have the power to turn a short one into a permanent one.
They are going to look pretty bad (yeah, I know) in the eyes of the world if they refuse. I can even see China putting pressure on them.
I've binned X too, bluesky is just as good a source of info on Ukraine. Better even, as there's no siegheiling south African oligarch pulling the strings and spreading Russian disinformation.
The acid test really is whether or not Ukraine is prepared to cede territory. Rubio has stated that he wants to see if Ukraine is "prepared to do difficult things" which most folks have interpreted as meaning allowing Russia to retain what it's invaded.
Has Russia indicated it wants a ceasefire?
Rubio has stated that he wants to see if Ukraine is "prepared to do difficult things" which most folks have interpreted as meaning allowing Russia to retain what it's invaded.
I cannot believe there's an expectation that Russia can keep all it's taken. That would be a horrendous outcome for Ukraine and Europe.
I can see Ukraine may have to concede some territory, which is a tragedy and potentially sows the seeds for future conflicts. And obviously Russia will want the bits with the minerals.
The acid test really is whether or not Ukraine is prepared to cede territory. Rubio has stated that he wants to see if Ukraine is "prepared to do difficult things" which most folks have interpreted as meaning allowing Russia to retain what it's invaded.
Has Russia indicated it wants a ceasefire?
Has Russia indicated it wants a ceasefire?
And obviously Russia will want the bits with the minerals.
From a purely transactional perspective it doesn't matter if you sign a contract to supply minerals with Russia or Ukraine, and it's blindingly obvious to everyone that Trump prefers to deal with Putin than with Zelensky
JD Vance has a cousin who is a former marine.
He went to Ukraine early in 2022 to help train the Ukrainians. He has since been fighting on the front line in several regions.
He is rather cross with the current administration, to put it mildly. Interestingly he said that JD has never asked him about the war, which I find very peculiar, almost as if JD has made his mind up and doesn't want evidence to contradict it....
Article about it in the Independent but I can't get a link to work.
The acid test really is whether or not Ukraine is prepared to cede territory. Rubio has stated that he wants to see if Ukraine is "prepared to do difficult things" which most folks have interpreted as meaning allowing Russia to retain what it's invaded.
I expect as well as giving up territory, they will have to give up hope of joining NATO, and Zelensky will have to stand down, I very much doubt any deal that is offered is going to mean that Ukraine will be safe, Hopefully Europe will still support their right to independence and historic borders, and not allow a puppet government to replace Zelensky's government, and support their eventual inclusion into NATO (or a European/ROW equivalent if the US leaves).
I guess at this stage the ceasefire doesn't tie Ukraine or Russia into anything concrete just yet. I would guess that talks are based around establishing negotiation boundaries and agreeing to ceasefire on those broad bases. But it's worth noting that agreeing to a ceasefire is a basis for peace negotiations...there's plenty that could fall apart, and I hope Ukraine doesn't have to compromise too much. I think Putin may accept a ceasefire if it doesn't cost him to anything and it makes him look willing to seek peace, but we've no idea of the ceasefire details, which may contain unacceptable things to them.
Yesterday it looked slightly better for Ukraine, but I still fear a sell-out of them. We'll see...
The timing of the cease fire offer does give Putin a bit of a dilemma.
The Russians are actually making reasonable progress in pushing the Ukrainians out of Kursk and a pause now will gives Ukraine crucial time to resupply and refresh the forces there whilst they furiously dig in. Meaning that Ukraine will almost certainly still be holding some Russian territory as a card in their hand for future peace negotiations, something Putin was desperate to prevent.
Conversely over the last few weeks the Ukrainians seem to be doing much better in the East and a pause now will almost ensure that the key transport hub of Pokrovsk remains out of Russia's grasp as, again the Ukrainians resupply and dig in.
Cynically I think Putin will agree to the ceasefire as a sop to Trump and to promote allied division by playing the 'see, we're reasonable' card that his useful idiots will pounce on and then find some kind of weaselly excuse to keep fighting in areas where it suits him (namely in Kursk). Betting that Trump won't call him out on it.
I suspect that Trump, Vance and Musk have been taken aback but the vehemence of the fall-out from the White House Zelensky meeting. They assumed that everyone else was as venal as them and were just looking for an excuse to walk away and they were genuinely not expecting the response that came from the rest of the West and even many of their own voters.
Hence reinstating weapons shipments and intel cooperation at the first opportunity.
This all doesn't mean Ukraine is out of the woods in any shape or form but diplomatically Zelensky is in a much stronger position than he was a few weeks back.
I suspect that Trump, Vance and Musk have been taken aback but the vehemence of the fall-out from the White House Zelensky meeting. They assumed that everyone else was as venal as them and were just looking for an excuse to walk away and they were genuinely not expecting the response that came from the rest of the West and even many of their own voters.
I think you credit them with too much self-reflection and empathy! But yes, whatever has brought about a change in their initial position and the US having some alignment with Ukraine again, is a good thing. indeed, the world awaits the next steps...
If he had any empathy he wouldn't have tried to stuff Ukraine in the first place, but he does have a fairly strong strong sense sense of self-preservation and I suspect this may have finally kicked in.
Heres Laurence Freedman with another angle on why the Russians might have trouble acccepting a ceasefire/peace deal.
TLDW; the territories they have annexed are just rubble now. Completely economically inactive and depopulated. It's going to be very expensive to look after and will be a pain in the arse as it'll require ongoing policing/pacification forever. Without conquering Kiev / getting a puppet goverment installed, it'll be more trouble than its worth
The timing of the cease fire offer does give Putin a bit of a dilemma.
Dilemma? What dilemma? Just keep progressing. There is nothing to be gained from cease fire other than giving the opponent(s) the opportunity to regroup. It does nothing to the sanction etc and the threat is still there.
If there is to be a hostage exchange as part of a ceasefire ... can we send chewkw?
JD Vance has a cousin who is a former marine.
He went to Ukraine early in 2022 to help train the Ukrainians. He has since been fighting on the front line in several regions.
He is rather cross with the current administration, to put it mildly. Interestingly he said that JD has never asked him about the war, which I find very peculiar, almost as if JD has made his mind up and doesn't want evidence to contradict it....
Article about it in the Independent but I can't get a link to work.
Comes up on some YouTube coverage by the ant Trump commentators
Does anyone think Ukraine is pulling back out of land taken in Russia to sort of help the peace talks? Thus Putin can say he has removed them and a looks like a small victory for him?
I understand that they were making progress anyway, so maybe i am over thinking it.
No because it is taking away Ukraine's most important bargaining chip. And why Russia is so keen to make advances.
The Russian advance in Kursk is probably a result of the US ceasing intelligence sharing. I believe Russian special forces got in behind the Ukrainian front lines by infiltrating via the gas pipeline, and taking them by surprise. With US assistance, they may have seen this coming. Without it, they didn't.
The details are coming through now....my post above a bit out of date/too late!
It seems they left lost of equipment behind that tells a story in itself.
If Putin can force Ukraine out of Kursk before the talks start it removes a huge bargaining chip that Ukraine currently hold.
Hence why they started throwing everything at it whilst Ukraine's ability to defend was hampered by the UK intelligence freeze.
The flip side of this is that Russia has clearly moved assets out of the Eastern front to throw into Kursk as Ukraine is suddenly making significant progress there.
The logic is similar on both sides; the more land they hold when the firing stops the better the outcome they are likely to see, the clock is ticking.
The worrying that about Kursk is that the Ukrainian forces still fighting are pretty much an enclave in danger of being physically surrounded and supply line (a single road) being cut, not only will they lose some experienced soldiers, those captured can expect the usual Russian treatment, if kept alive at all.
Reading this article it sounds like Trump may be preemptively warning Putin about the Ukrainians in Kursk
BBC News - US had 'productive' talks with Putin over Ukraine war, Trump says
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce34g2e75zno
Reading this article it sounds like Trump may be preemptively warning Putin about the Ukrainians in Kursk
BBC News - US had 'productive' talks with Putin over Ukraine war, Trump says
If you believe Ukraine then it concerns me more that President Trump doesn't listen to his own intelligence briefings. On that basis alone he can't be passing anything accurate to Russia 🙂
Trump's social media post also "strongly requested" Putin should spare the lives of Ukrainian troops, whom he described as surrounded by Russian forces, adding it would be a "horrible massacre" not seen since World War Two.
His comments came after Putin said on Thursday that Ukrainian troops in Kursk had been "isolated" and were trying to leave, as Russia ramps up efforts to reclaim the region invaded by Ukraine last year.
But on Friday, Ukraine's armed forces general staff denied the encirclement of its troops, calling it "false and fabricated".
In a statement, it said operations were continuing, with Ukrainian troops having withdrawn and "successfully regrouped" to better defensive positions.
"There is no threat of encirclement of our units," it said. (BBC)
Timelines of Russian actions and the build-up of numbers of attacks suggest that their counter-offensive in Kursk began earlier than either the weapons or intelligence freezes. There's little doubt that Russian actions were helped by the freezes, but Ukraine also messed up a troop rotation in Kursk
Following the meeting, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the US would not make foreign policy decisions based on what leaders said on social media or at a news conference, and stressed the "only way to end this war is through a process of negotiations". (BBC)
And the biggest culprit and leader on social media is...
Important day to find out the intentions of Putin and Trump. Will Trump cave in to Putin's demands and preconditions, and hand Ukraine an impossible 'choice' that may crash any peace of ceasefire potential, allowing Trump to blame Ukraine for failure? Will Putin ultimately say 'no' and what will Trump do then? Will a satisfactory compromise be reached?
I feel fairly pessimistic about it. Feels like Putin still wants all his war aims and will use this period to extract as much as possible from the situation (playing Trump to get favourable outcomes). Trump is desperate for a Nobel peace prize, but has neither the capacity or guile to do so. Ukraine and Europe are hoping for a good outcome, but must be bracing for the worse to happen. What a position to be in, that such a consequential moment rests in the hands of two awful tyrants.
While he is on the phone ,no doubt he will have ordered a significant attack to happen as a fingers up to the west.
Reagan and some of the GOP must be rolling in their graves. How do you side with a murderous autocrat against a budding liberal democracy. How does that make America great?
Disrespectful, so disrespectful. Probably the most disrespectful thing in all of history. No-one has ever been more disrespectful. Nasty, so nasty....
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c3e4xzd8qq8t?post=asset%3A2ad457ef-f44d-41aa-bb6d-f6954a4b5f71#post
Trump apparently now wants not just 50% of the minerals, but also USA ownership of Ukrainian powerplants too. It seems he wants to reap the rewards of Russia's invasion to take bits of Ukraine himself .. without using USA troops to take it. He and the USA system are all scumbags for even suggesting this.
How quiet Zelensky has been about it makes me think he has now decided to just play Trump. To just pretend to be in agreement to keep arms etc coming into Ukraine whilst Europe tries to position themselves to fill any gaps.
How any country can trust the USA after all this is impossible - Trump and his whole team are scum, but there are others in US government allowing it to continue who also need to take responsibility.
Guardian covers the power plant here, it's specifically states it's only been mooted for the plant currently occupied by Russian forces.
The Ukrainian leader also said that he and Trump had discussed the US proposal to take ownership of the Russian-occupied Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in south Ukraine.
“We talked only about one power plant, which is under Russian occupation,” he said.
I think a big thing that has not really been mentioned enough in the Zelenskyy meeting was how Don was saying how much Putin had gone thru the phoney Russian witch hunt that Putin was accused of and the bathroom tap where it all came from.
Obviously more important than actual bombs dropping and sort of invading another country.
Anyway in other news Don got his 5 mins of truce for the news before Russia attacked that thing they said they wouldn’t.
As long as he gets enuff content for the evening news about how great he is he’s a happy chappy 🙁
and then of course the next brain fart is for the US to take ownership of that powerplant that Russia has control of ie stolen,so the official strategy is now to steal from the stealers.