same oppressed don’t get a word in edgeways
As a past supporter of Stop the War, and an admirer of Brian Eno's speeches, articles, interviews... anything where he gets to talk on and around a difficult topic... his pronouncements about what has been happening (on behalf of STW and in a personal capacity) have been notable for hardly mentioning the people of Ukraine... I find it all quite depressing and disheartening.
You really make a fool of yourself.. learn to read and understand whats written in context before spouting of like a fool
🤷🏻 Thank you for your elaboration and clarification there.
Yeah Kelvin. You look a right mug now. Blimey.
No way can we and Europe allow the current gas issue to continue for more than 5 more months before we see a change of heart …
Posted 47 minutes ago
Really?
Yeah Kelvin. You look a right mug now. Blimey.
Whats new?🤣🙃🙄
Fair TJ. Fair. 🤣
Deputies in 18 districts of Moscow and St Petersburg have signed a statement demanding that Putin resign. "President Putin's actions are detrimental to the future of Russia and its citizens."
I suspect this is why there has been no general mobilization of Russian troops. He still needs someone at home to keep things under control
All Dictators think they are invincible - until they aren't.
Well, looks like it wasn't the Belgorovka that I thought after all. Perhaps this is why I am not a military general
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1569350893958471681/photo/3
Deputies in 18 districts of Moscow and St Petersburg have signed a statement demanding that Putin resign.
"President Putin's actions are detrimental to the future of Russia and its citizens."
Now that seems a BIG change of events in Russia.
If 'regime change' occurs, will the successor pull troops out?
You really make a fool of yourself.. learn to read and understand whats written in context before spouting of like a fool
Interesting phrasing. Just out of interest, is English your first language?
Not having a go. You don't come across as illiterate but, like I said, interesting use of grammar and punctuation.
Are you Indian, Chinese, or French, by any chance?
Just Posh
Once we all sink into a long winter and see the fall out of the cost to keep warm and even survive etc .Its not that hard to see some peoples Moral compasses will change and they will revert to “me first ” .Add in maybe losing work income etc and Things change .No one though it would last this long and unless Putin is removed from within Russia . very little will stop him sacrificing it all just to make a point .He has that mind set . This will carry on until someone kills him .The chances of him hanging up his coat in almost zero chance . Far too many in Russia eat from his table and know the danger of speaking out .So the current (today) claim that top officials are asking him to retire is going to be answered very quickly .
Was this written by a bot?
ok...would you allow 40% of your wages to be taken in order to fund the Ukraine war against Russia etc ? How about 30% , maybe even 10% . I can guarantee you , all the virtue signalling going on can soon change once reality starts playing with family , income , work and business etc . If Russia keeps up this for long we are going to see a real mess and mess that really started at home years ago when we sold off and closed our ability to produce our own power and invest in nuclear power. If we had done this 20 years ago. we would be in a stronger position . We made ourselves weak and Now Putin is taking advantage . He knows the chances of a real War with nato etc is slim .
If Putin was powerful enough he would have mobilised months ago
A harsh winter will be very tough in Europe with this energy crisis but , I don't believe people will stop supporting Ukraine
Nor need the increased cost of gas on the open market mean the public paying hugely more. In tory Britain yes but the rest of Europe?
I smell bot. Strange syntax, not answering questions put to 'it', spouting pre prepared statements and stats. We've had this before on the forum.
TRTWorld - not the most reliable/unbiased source. Wonder what the next reaction will be?
We made ourselves weak and Now Putin is taking advantage . He knows the chances of a real War with nato etc is slim .
We have green energy to sustain / keep us alive don't you know? (quickly sneak out to buy some hot water bottle, extra wool jumpers, stock up some charcoal and ready me BBQ stoves for cooking, and prepare for the preppers lifestyle).
This will be a very cold winter.
Energy plants, fuel supply, infrastructure etc are all targets in all warfare.
If gas is short then other fuels are in demand and that means paying more for it .Domino effect
Yes, there is no way to escape the domino effect.
I counted that it will probably cost me £3 to £5/hr to switch on my central heating at the current gas rate.
Energy plants, fuel supply, infrastructure etc are all targets in all warfare.
Not entirely true. But as Putin is not following the laws of war, in this case for him they're fair game.
Some analysis of what the recent collapse in the Russian defense means for Putin:
BBC News - Ukraine war: What will Russia's losses mean for Putin?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62879367
Not entirely true. But as Putin is not following the laws of war, in this case for him they’re fair game.
Oh ya ... communication system as well.
In war only the winner(s) set the law.
Law of war is meaningless if you don't have the weapons to back it up. e.g. Japanese army butchered so many in South East Asia/China but nobody was able to stop them until Fat Boy arrived. Historically, the "great" Khan would wipe out the male population of the city but nobody could stop them.
Defeat the enemy(s) and you can dictate whatever law you wish.
Alright big man I'll bow to your superior knowledge. 🙄
It’s like busses isn’t it, been ages since we had a pet troll on here, and suddenly, there’s two of em 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️
Don’t feed em, folks!
It’s like busses isn’t it, been ages since we had a pet troll on here, and suddenly, there’s two of em
Tell me how you are going to prevent or to stop Russia?
Use guerrilla tactics? They too can deploy that.
Big bombs? They have that too.
Sanctions? They are more or less self sufficient.
The combined NATO force is about 3 to 5 times more than Russia at the moment if I can recall ... they can always match to Moscow in winter.
would you allow 40% of your wages to be taken in order to fund the Ukraine war against Russia etc
If the alternative is seeing Putin come after the Baltic states, Poland, Finland, yes, I'll pay to prevent that, even if I pay more to take some of the load from those less able to afford it.
We may not have boots on the ground but we are in an economic war with Putin. At times of war, governments traditionally spaff billions to ensure a victory, and then pay it off over 70 years or so. I'm not sure why this isn't being more openly done, but someone will be along to tell me in a minute.
Sanctions? They are more or less self sufficient.
Er, mate, they're having to buy artillery ammunition from NORTH KOREA, do you think they'd be doing that if they didn't have to.
Self sufficient my hairy butt cheeks.
Urgh, this kind of 'Russia-stronk' nonsense is why I stayed out of this thread in the early days, oh well, it's been fun.
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1569298704238100482?t=qRyfgAZfdiFg0L0npqdT_g&s=19
Translation (as per a reply on Twitter):
Russian soldier to the other:
Do you want this ( gun)?
**** no.
I don’t need it either. **** this whole shit.
Er, mate, they’re having to buy artillery ammunition from NORTH KOREA, do you think they’d be doing that if they didn’t have to.
Self sufficient my hairy butt cheeks.
Urgh, this kind of ‘Russia-stronk’ nonsense is why I stayed out of this thread in the early days, oh well, it’s been fun.
I don't know what they are buying from North Korea etc (briefly read this a while back on some news which sounded like the war had already been "won")
Okay, they are running out of ammunition and they are weak.
Why not just match in to stop them as winter is approaching?
Translation (as per a reply on Twitter):
Russian soldier to the other:
Do you want this ( gun)?
* no.
I don’t need it either. * this whole shit.
They don't look like well trained forces etc ... but again that's Russia forces (as we known them to be) but for some reasons they managed to defeat two major forces in the past.
I don’t know what they are buying from North Korea etc (briefly read this a while back on some news which sounded like the war was already been “won”)
Okay, they are running out of ammunition and they are weak.
Why not just match in to stop them as winter is approaching?
Because marching into another country is against all sorts of laws?
They don’t look like well trained forces etc … but again that’s Russia forces (as we known them to be) but for some reasons they managed to defeat two major forces in the past.
And lost several since?
Because marching into another country is against all sorts of laws?
Sounds like we are going to prepare for long cold winter then.
And lost several since?
Actually, I think they lost most of their "wars" but for some reasons when it comes to the major wars affecting their motherland, they always won.
My Troll-O-Meter is pinging.
We have a new poster who is posting all sorts of badly punctuated and grammatically weird takes, not to mention sharing a Turkish government funded news outlet. They seem rather fond of repeating the term "virtue signalling" re not just Ukraine but also outdoors kit too.
A really bizarre choice for a forum member to cite.
We also have our usual "alternative facts" chap chiming in too.
What a time to be alive.
Urgh, this kind of ‘Russia-stronk’ nonsense is why I stayed out of this thread in the early days, oh well, it’s been fun.
I wouldn’t worry, they’ve literally made no difference whatsoever.
And the line of attack, as I’m sure you well know, is being pushed widely at the minute so it was inevitable it’d end up here at some point. It’s just a desperate “oh, nothing else has worked” thing.
Yeah I don't understand why people engage with them
Time will tell how things will pan out.
In the meantime, I think it will be a freezing winter if price of gas, due to Ukraine/Russia War, continues to increase.
Personally, I can't be arsed to read the news coz they are all the same. i.e. "We win you lose or you lose we win etc ..."
but for some reasons when it comes to the major wars affecting their motherland, they always won.
Strangely seems to involve massive losses, together with financial and/or military assistance from the West.
too bloody old
Just Posh
Peterborough United fan, then? No wonder you don't sound very optimistic!!
Strangely seems to involve massive losses, together with financial and/or military assistance from the West.
As if they care. They are Russians.
Yes, they got some of their technologies from the West so did Japan(since the time of Shogun).
is too bloody old another dannyh replicant?
Strangely seems to involve massive losses, together with financial and/or military assistance from the West.
It’s also irrelevant, as no-one is marching on Moscow. The only reason that was punted out there is to get a bite.
There seems to be a lot of "what ifs" and conjecture about the Russian military.
It’s also irrelevant, as no-one is marching on Moscow. The only reason that was punted out there is to get a bite.
Quite.
It’s also irrelevant, as no-one is marching on Moscow. The only reason that was punted out there is to get a bite.
They have nuke otherwise they would be a walk over.
However, the West/NATO are generally very good at planning, technological advanced, very discipline etc but somehow this makes me think why the Russians are not that bothered or afraid yet.
... to get a bite.
Erh? No, I don't do that. Not me. Waste of time. Life is too short etc.
Erh? No, I don’t do that. Not me. Waste of time. Life is too short etc.
Ahem..
