At least one recent report about his social media history suggests that their vetting might not have been all it could have been
I’m just wondering where the bar is set for what kind of social media a activity would get you kicked out of Reform?
Farage is, unsurprisingly, very selective about his reading of opinion polls. He says that it is now absolutely certain that Labour will win the general election, presumably based on the polls.
But he also says that Reform UK will take substantial votes from Labour despite all the poll evidence suggesting the opposite.
Over the last year support for Labour has remained remarkably stable, during that time support for Reform UK has almost trebled and support for the Tories has nosedived.
I think it is obvious where support for Reform UK is coming from.
From his little speech this afternoon I get the impression that typical for a demagogue he has an overinflated belief in his own popularity.
Obviously he is going to talk up his alleged appeal but I think much of it he probably genuinely believes. That must have played a part in his decision to stand 7 times for parliament despite never winning, how many other politicians have a similar record?
Tories apparently now terrfied of a total wipeout
Amazing really, I know Im not farages target demographic but its not just that he repulses me in every single way, but will this really take many more votes from the Tories are there that much more for them to lose?
Theres not much left in the dont knows to squeeze, so it would have to be straight tory to reform flips...
https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1797634458775883784
Actually, this is just so he can take part in the leader debates, isn’t it?
Watching Farage get stuck into the Lil Fella is going to be comedy gold though 😂
This idea that Farage has a lucrative career in the US - is anyone saying that apart from Farage? Trump ensures that the money flows to him directly whenever possible, and there's a thousand Americans who are louder, prettier, with more media access and even some popular support who are ahead of Farage in the Grift Queue.
I thought Sunak was vegetarian, and “hardly ate at all” ?!?
Because this is the only thing he's said I'm interested in, I researched this. There was an interview last year in which he said he likes a full cooked breakfast Inc pancakes and crispy bacon on a Sunday.
He presumably doesn't do that when his mother in law is around. She's a member of the Indian legislature where the question of whether you eat meat or not, and whether you would eat beef or pork in particular, are markers in the religious culture wars: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-66336500
PS I don't believe for a second that Sunak actually eats crispy bacon. Like the rest of the "love the kids, love the wife, love the Nandos" rubbish, it's just a dogwhistle about what kind of person he is...and isn't.
I suspect Farage will also get stuck into Starmer too as a suspected re joiner.
Ernie -
farage did make a public offer.
Not overt but its clear what he is meaning
Can Nigel Farage ever tell the truth? Honestly if you listed the ‘100 top bellends in the world’ I think 90% of them would be politicians.
Which reminds me of the best ever Nigel Farage video…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bxMhwNkKfqs&pp=ygUYTmlnZWwgZmFyYWdlIHdhbmtlciBzaWdu
Ernie –
farage did make a public offer.
Your link doesn't say what you seem to think it says. From your link:
The Reform UK honorary president said: “I got rid of Mrs May with the Brexit Party. I stood aside with Boris to help a massive majority. What are they going to do back for me?”
No, I'm not asking for anything other than: I've done them some huge favours over the years as a party, give me something back. We might have a conversation
For Nigel Farage to say to the Tories "I have done you some huge favours, it's time for you to do me some favours back, let's have a little chat", is not the same as saying "I want to do another huge favour like I did for you in 2019".
Its clear what he is offering - to stand down in return for something. Clear as daylight
It's clear that he is claiming that they owe him favours. That is clear as daylight.
Edit: So anyway that fooled you into believing that Reform UK wouldn't stand in Tory seats under Labour threat? Seriously?
Its clear what he is offering – to stand down in return for something. Clear as daylight
You've been saying that for the last 12 months. He did that last time and got bent over by Boris. He won’t be doing it again, that’s for sure.
Imagine receiving promises from Johnson that he then immediately reneged on? Who’d have thunk it?
I firmly believe that most of his motivation is spite and revenge for getting mugged off by them 5 years ago. He’s as thin-skinned and vindictive as they come
Fancy the usual pastry-based wager Uncle Jezza? I’ll have you twenty quid worth of steak bakes that Farage and Reform fully contest this election and don’t stand anyone down? 😃
….for something
Leader of the Tory right/Party.
24 Tory seats?
Rees-Mogg could really lie across the benches then.
If they only have 24 seats Rees-Mogg will be long gone.
43 in the FT one & 3rd party behind lib dems
Eh? 135 as of today. FT Poll
Also FT poll today
If Farage increases the Reform vote I think we all know where most will come from. I can't see him winning but he might guarantee the Tories don't.
the slippery c-nut is sniffing around sunaks honours list isn't he.
the little fella is so pathetic he just might put him on it
No I long thought that Ernie / Binners. Thats just confirming the deal is there if Sunhak takes it
Looking less likely tho now I agree.
These folk with a Labour/Gaza issue, who else are they actually going to vote for?
Genuine question.
Depends what your issues with Labour are. You vote for the person not the party and there are a number of left wing Labour candidates around. Also lots in support of Gaza. If you have one then you are in a great position as they will have some influence on the party likely to be in power.
Farage has always wanted to be at the top echelons of the tory party, he's been rejected for years, but he thinks with the lunatic right that the tories have now, he has a chance of doing damage, and probably then amalgamating the parties to get his wish, it'll all be in his head though, the guy is just a pure chancer who just wants to be in some sort of power, it's a bit like Johnson, but with less scruples, which is hard to believe was possible 🤣
It'll be a fun election, you're already seeing a lot of the moderate tories moving away because of what's happening, what they put up for those gaps will be against proper right wingers if reform are competing, all i hope for is a labour majority and the lib dems to get in my local seat, we do have a lot of old folk in our area though who have voted the tories in for years, even though it gets worse every time!
You taking my bet then Uncle Jezza?
The problem with Farage is that firstly he very occasionally gets it right. There was a moment during his press conference when I actually stopped smiling in amusement at his moronic comments, that was when he commented on the issues of PR and the House of Lords. He was in fact spot-on and saying exactly what Keir Starmer should be saying.
The second problem is that both the Tory and Labour leaders have absolutely zero charisma. Immediately after the Farage segment on the news they switched to a read speech by Keir Starmer, my immediate reaction was **** me is he dull or what.
I can see Farage benefitting from those two points more than I am comfortable with.
Farage will put in as much effort as an MP as he did as an MEP - worst attendece record (bar a guy who was paralysed & attended virtually). Max out the expenses & subsidised bars and only show up for grandstand ING clips for social media consumption
Also British MP makes him sound more important in USA
That said best result would be for Reform to help Tories get totally wiped out and farage to still not get elected as an MP
Unfortunately he gets to air his views even more on prime time which is grim
Tories were facing wipeout before this, in yougovs latest MRP a lot of Tory seats they're just winning by a few %, so even a small gain for Reform from Tory vote could have a bg effect, also really help lib dems in some tight tory seats, Davey could well end up as LOTO
You taking my bet then Uncle Jezza?
What bet, i'm not even sure what he's up to these days, i know he'll go for the election and keep going until he's no longer capable, not sure what he'll do when he gets in, still running around the world doing his stuff i guess.
Binners - Nah - two months ago I might have but its really too late now for the deal to be done.
The second problem is that both the Tory and Labour leaders have absolutely zero charisma. Immediately after the Farage segment on the news they switched to a read speech by Keir Starmer, my immediate reaction was **** me is he dull or what.
Mrs Binners has just said the exact same thing Ernesto. She watched Farage, then Rishi, then said “Oh god, the same idiots who voted for Boris because ‘he’s a bit of a laugh and I can imagine having a pint with him’ are all going to vote Reform now, aren’t they?”
^^ I was just thinking of the possible consequences for Farage (and Clacton) if he wins/loses.
If he wins, unlike being an MEP he'll be expected to actually do some actual work. There'll be no campaigning to do, which is what he really thrives on, sure he'll be on the news throwing shit at Labour policies as much as he can but for the first time he'll be directly accountable to those that voted for him.
If Clacton voters are daft enough to vote for him, which is likely, they probably deserve what they will be getting frankly, which is a workshy grifter.
On balance, I want him to be elected so there is a real spotlight on him for 5 years.
It will be illuminating in many ways.
On balance, I want him to be elected so there is a real spotlight on him for 5 years.
TBH that's very similar to my thinking. If he wins he will almost certainly be the only Reform MP among literally hundreds of MPs, so really quite insignificant. Farage craves being the centre of attention, he will hate it.
Furthermore when he does get the spotlight in the House of Commons and he has the opportunity to speak he will expose himself as an intellectual pygmy. He might impress the lads down his local but there are some savvy politicians in the House of Commons.
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I’m not so sanguine about it. Pasokification may see Farage become a likely next PM. I hope he loses ignominiously and ****s off to America.
Absolutely, him becoming an MP is not without risk. That said, he has had a huge and negative (imo) impact on UK politics and society by being able to be on the outside pissing in, having much influence with almost none of the accountability.
If he were PM eventually he will still hit the reality brick wall that all far right politicians eventually do simply because they make huge promises based on simple solutions. It never ends well.
So yep, over all, I'll be happy to see him become an MP as there will at least be some oversight of him whilst actually having to work for his constituents. I'm theory.
He needs a spot light on him, he's lived in the shadowy murk far too long.
It'll also end his whole, "in not one of the elites/ politicians" bs he comes up with.
If politics is exciting, like constitiutional law currently is, you’re doing it wrong.
Well I might not expect House of Commons Select Committee politics to be exciting and gripping but I certainly expect general election politics to be.
And in fact I am actually quite exited about the 2024 general election, even if the speeches from the leaders of the government and opposition might be dull and uninspiring.
Btw if David Green truly believes that constitutional law is currently exciting he needs to get out more.
FFS. Earthworm Jim! AGAIN! He’s like a turd that just won’t flush. Just sitting there fouling the water and blocking the plumbing from doing what it’s supposed to do. I really hope he has to travel by light aircraft a lot during his campaign.
Tories have 3 days and still have 100 candidates to find
What's nuts is that the current tory chairman can't seem to get one
https://twitter.com/tomorrowsmps/status/1797687404222115946?t=iNn5fKdoS5GPtesGmIFHrw&s=19
Btw if David Green truly believes that constitutional law is currently exciting he needs to get out more.
He does not, that's purely your own supposition.
Tories have 3 days and still have 100 candidates to find
What’s nuts is that the current tory chairman can’t seem to get one
Yeah you would think that with a hundred seats to choose from the current Tory chairman wouldn't be having any problems finding one.
Is he being awkward and expecting to find a winnable one?
He does not, that’s purely your own supposition.
So what does this mean ?
"If politics is exciting, like constitiutional law currently is"
He didn't say it, the copyright was falsely attributed to him?
Apparently the safe one he was after the local party were so angry he decided not to
I don't think it helps that he's quite unlikeable & associated with their disastrous campaign
His partner is chief political correspondent at The Sun - so wonder of there will be a backlash?
So what does this mean ?
“If politics is exciting, like constitiutional law currently is”
He didn’t say it, the copyright was falsely attributed to him?
Apologies, I forget that opposing opinions must be quashed without mercy. In this case I suspect he was, dare I say it of a lawyer, being flippant, but I welcome your correction.
https://www.ft.com/content/e8e83f02-7ab5-11e8-af48-190d103e32a4
Eh, I don't give a monkeys what he said. One person suggested that one thing, you suggested that he didn't say that. I don't even know who he is.
