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Almost immediately flagged by Twitter. I thought he was going to concede when it popped up. No such luck.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334240039639937026


 
Posted : 02/12/2020 10:04 pm
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what's the betting he doesn't turn up ?

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1334228195466498050


 
Posted : 02/12/2020 10:54 pm
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Today's CV19 related death count in the US is 2,500+ and still 5 or more hours for that to rise further.
That's a massive increase over the recent daily average of c1,500.
I don't know how upto date the reported numbers are but I'm hoping that's an anomaly.
Despite the death count trump's only concern remains the election result - and avoiding court.


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 1:02 am
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I don’t know how upto date the reported numbers are but I’m hoping that’s an anomaly

They're just about exceeding the daily numbers in the first peak now. Not good, and cases are still rising so it's only going one way.

McEnany was asked about it today, shouldn't Trump be speaking to the country and she just rambled on about what a success Trump's COVID response has been.


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 1:30 am
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Now there's a surprise - Washington Post reporting that trump is preparing to fire Bill Barr.


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 2:22 am
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I don’t know how up to date the reported numbers are but I’m hoping that’s an anomaly.

No - I fear it isn't. This was/is the entirely predictable aftermath of thanksgiving. I work with a number of colleagues in the US, and I've been asking them if they had a good thanksgiving - very few of them have described any sort of concession made to the pandemic.

Will be instructive to our own messaging around Christmas I think.... at least I hope it will.

I think that Trump is building up enough steam/outrage in his base to carry him through the next 4 years - my expectation is that he announces that he is running for reelection in 2024 as soon as he admits defeat (or inauguration day). In fact, I wouldn't put it past him to run a rally to make this announcement on the same day a Biden's inauguration. From his perspective, the sooner he starts his campaign, the sooner he can start gathering donations.

From Biden's perspective, I think his outward message is going to be one of unity/moving forwards, but I would be amazed if there isn't a plan to burn the whole lot to the ground. Importantly, I would exclude Trump himself from that, but there has been so much behavior across the board in his government and the GOP that MUST be actionable, a huge number of people are going to find themselves "exposed" - hence the race/auction for pardons.

First on my list would be all the people in the closed briefing on Coronavirus, who then went on to sell/buy stock before public announcements were made. This is surely almost the definition of insider trading, and my understanding is that the SEC has got real teeth - significant jailtime would be on the cards. My guess is that these are the people hammering on the door for a "preemptive pardon".


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 3:22 am
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First on my list would be all the people in the closed briefing on Coronavirus, who then went on to sell/buy stock before public announcements were made. This is surely almost the definition of insider trading, and my understanding is that the SEC has got real teeth – significant jailtime would be on the cards.

Perdue and Loeffler clearly fall into that category.


 
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https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1334356275140964352


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 6:16 am
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Yes, I believe I heard only around a third of funds raised is ringfenced for election-related litigation.

In some cases it was only if you donate over $8000 that any portion of the donation would go towards the actual legal challenge costs.


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 7:07 am
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as soon as he admits defeat

Trump is never going to admit defeat. In his head he won, so why would he say any different? I don't think he'll do anything really stupid*, and TBH, I think the institutional US is robust enough with withstand any shit #DaiperDon wants to throw, but he's never ever going to admit that he lost to Biden in a fair election.

46 minutes of Trump "explaining why he couldn't have lost

* although this is Trump, so "stupid" within a variation between slightly dumb to really really idiotic


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 8:26 am
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No – I fear it isn’t. This was/is the entirely predictable aftermath of thanksgiving.

What's scary is the current deaths are people who were infected 6 weeks or more ago if you factor in the death reporting process. The Thanksgiving uptick won't be for a while yet. And we have Hanukkah, Christmas, New Year...

https://twitter.com/VinGuptaMD/status/1334331943085768707?s=19


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 8:52 am
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That's the same IT contractor at the Michigan hearing who's already had her account thrown out by the court. The woman before her too.

Why are there no experts in the process in those hearings? She's repeating the same claims that ballots were scanned multiple times when they jammed in the tabulators which has already been responded to, the process deals with that scenario.


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 9:02 am
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the people in the closed briefing on Coronavirus, who then went on to sell/buy stock before public announcements were made. This is surely almost the definition of insider trading

Almost?


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 9:39 am
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Perdue and Loeffler clearly fall into that category.

They've claimed their investments are 3rd-party managed, they had no knowledge 🤔

'They began selling stocks on January 24, the same day Loeffler attended a private briefing of the Committee on Health, Education, Labor & Pensions on the spread of the disease'

'Between January 24 and February 14, the couple sold between $1.275 and $3.1 million worth of stock in 27 companies, while buying stocks worth between $450,000 and $1 million, including in Citrix, which develops remote collaboration software'

Then the Ethics Committee closed her case - and reported her husband made a big donation to a PAC...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/20/kelly-loeffler-trump-super-pac-272626


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 9:54 am
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Just checked this. It's nonsense, surprise, surprise.

There were 2 errors from a sample (100) of 28,000 duplicate votes. i.e. ballots that were too damaged for the machines so were hand transcribed.

So if you assume the 2% and all went Trump's way (a big assumption) he'd pick up 560 votes.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334282156349267970


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 10:15 am
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Has the cokehead in chief even mentioned Covid since the election? Maybe i'm not paying enough attention, but he doesn't seem to have said much about it since realising he can just ignore it till Biden moves in and can get to claming him for it all


 
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Perhaps just as worrying is Bidens cabinet announcements all far right centrists and corporate lobbyists. Just business as usual, there will be no attempt to fix the underlying issues and improve peoples lives.

Trumps populism was built on the fact that so many people felt ignored and excluded by modern politics, that will only get worse if they don't start swinging back to people centric policies.


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 10:42 am
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Has the cokehead in chief even mentioned Covid since the election?

All I've seen is him celebrating the supreme court overruling the governor's limits on religious gatherings, and a retweet of a doctor's selfie implying COVID is fake news. Oh, and a tweet suggesting people gather to celebrate Thanksgiving.

'In the latest example of misinformation about the coronavirus ricocheting across social media, a Nevada doctor’s selfie has been used to spread false claims that downplay the severity of the pandemic.

In the picture posted to Twitter on Sunday, the doctor, Jacob Keeperman, is standing at the Renown Regional Medical Center’s alternate care site in Reno, Nev. In the background, empty hospital beds covered in plastic stand in a vacant parking area. The photo was taken on Nov. 12, the day the site opened, so patients had not yet arrived, Renown Health said.'


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 10:49 am
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Perhaps just as worrying is Bidens cabinet announcements all far right centrists and corporate lobbyists. Just business as usual, there will be no attempt to fix the underlying issues and improve peoples lives.

Biden campaigned and was elected as a moderate centrist. His cabinet picks are consistent with that. Cabinet secretaries have to be confirmed by the Senate, which will probably be controlled by Republicans. Even if it's not, there won't be support for left-wing cabinet picks.

Trumps populism was built on the fact that so many people felt ignored and excluded by modern politics, that will only get worse if they don’t start swinging back to people centric policies.

I think his support was mostly built on resentment about social change. A bunch of left-wing cabinet secretaries trying to upend existing systems is exactly what will make Trumpism seem more attractive to moderate voters. Moderate centrist voters want a guy like Biden, not Bernie Sanders.


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 10:56 am
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Centerist in US politics is right wing in european. Republicans are hard right, democrats centre right


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 11:27 am
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Biden was elected as not Trump, and his cabinet picks are not moderate centrists, they are corporate lobbyists and right wing centrists. Not one of them is a moderate centrist (even in the American sense of centrist).

If progress can be made to make peoples lives better in the next 4 years, then Trumpism is dust. If the same alienation and ignorance to the lives of normal people continues then his successor will rise and be better at it, then we really are ****ed.


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 11:31 am
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Has the cokehead in chief even mentioned Covid since the election?

Not since announcing the rollout of the vaccine he invented.


 
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keep up

trump beat covid. covid is fake news. nobody dies from covid, covid is a lie. only democrats die from covid.

trump won the election. your vote was fraud. trump has the bigly votes from all america

go vote trump! stop the steal! eternal president trump will rule american forever#

biden eats babies and does other marxist communist stuff you dont like


 
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If you take a step back, and just look at exactly what trump & GOP are doing, it’s unbelievable.

He/they are attempting to ignore an election and seize power. The country seems powerless/unwilling to stand up to him.

I would like to see all those left with any integrity get together and call it what it is. Governors, Mayors, Senators, Military, GOP, Police Chiefs, Judiciary, oh, AND THE FRIKKIN RELIGIOUS LEADERS!!!


 
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powerless/unwilling to stand up to him.

They'll just leave it until he's a nothing on 21st Jan and then Biden will order the special forces to get him out of there.

They'll be a few more riots whilst COVID rampages through the streets of the US, what a time to be alive if you're a domestic American citizen.


 
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@mrmonkfinger

Pretty well summed. But you forgot...’the great Reset’*

*Still not sure what it is but think maybe something to do with shadowy ‘globalists’ (((I never said Soros))) forcing us all to ride Segways to the gulag?

*Edit, seriously, that’s Sky News Australia??? I feel like this is becoming sort of like Willy Wonka World and all prior points of reference are now floating orange clouds that emit random contradictory gases towards which people run and prostrate themselves. ‘He’s not The Messiah Brian, he’s a Best Conman Messiah You’ve Ever Known Probably The Best Of All Time And Maybe Even Before Time Itself’


 
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oh, AND THE FRIKKIN RELIGIOUS LEADERS!!!

The most conservative of the lot!!


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 1:19 pm
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Don't forget that Trump prophesised that if Biden won then no one would ever mention Covid again after election day.

They are still mentioning it. It's getting worse.

Therefore clearly Biden didn't win! Simples!


 
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But you forgot…’the great Reset’*

"A fascist experiment pushed by controlling Elite's"  Hmm, where's my hat...?   Are we blaming Aliens, the Mason's Brick Top or what now?


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 1:28 pm
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Has the cokehead in chief even mentioned Covid since the election?

Not since announcing the rollout of the vaccine he invented.

Plus planning a rally this weekend and hosting White House Christmas parties.

The formal position from the White House (whilst many are queuing for food handouts). Wife and I agreed McEnany has had some cosmetic work done since her last presser. Face is completely different.

'Q And then just real quick: The CDC Director today said that the next few months could be among the worst public health months in American history. I wondered, does the White House — is it setting a good example for the public — for White House to be doing in-person holiday parties at a time when the CDC and other organizations are asking Americans to forego those kinds of celebrations for their own safety?

MS. MCENANY: Yeah, so, you know, if you can loot businesses, burn down buildings, engage in protest, you can also go to a Christmas party, you can celebrate the holiday of Christmas, and you can do it responsibly, which is why the East Wing has noted that they’ll have smaller guest lists, masks are going to be available, social distancing is going to be encouraged, hand sanitizing stations, among other measures. But we will engage in the celebration of Christmas, and there will be a Hanukkah celebration as well.'


 
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If progress can be made to make peoples lives better in the next 4 years

Obama tried that, remember Obama care, reviled by many of the people it was directly helping. The average American voter makes Brexiteers looks rational. They respond to populist wolf whistle politics not reasoned argument. Tell you're going to make America Great Again and they're all for it, give them accessible health care and they're immediately suspicious their rights are being weirdly eroded.


 
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*Noted that since I posted that video link Sky News Australia have changed the title from ‘segway’ to ‘segue’.

Interesting.


 
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Actually over 75% of the American population are in favour of universal healthcare, its only the media whipping up a vocal minority opposition that makes it seem otherwise.

Obamacare only provided for a minority that were uncovered, introducing proper universal healthcare would reduce bills and increase coverage for the majority.

This is what I mean by actually improving peoples lives to demonstrate a real change, rather than just pretending that pandering to corporate lobbyists isn't going to just make matters worse.


 
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They are happy with the “Affordable Care Act”, just not that socialist big government “Obamacare”!


 
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They are happy with the “Affordable Care Act”, just not that socialist big government “Obamacare”!

"Obamacare" sums up the republicans nicely. Obama tried to appease them and so based it around ideas which had been floating around on the republican side for some time which explains some of its failings.
However as soon as became his idea and not theirs apparently it became the worse thing ever.


 
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Apparently Trump recently made ‘maybe my most important speech ever yadayada’

Don’t CNN seem to be playing right into Trump’s hands by not broadcasting his 46 min address? Obviously the Trumpers are increasingly threatening Civil War now it’s being shown that their great leader is in fact being silenced by the librul globalist commulistic media. But the point remains? How are CNN et al not playing into his hands?


 
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keep up

trump beat covid. covid is fake news. nobody dies from covid, covid is a lie. only democrats die from covid.

trump won the election. your vote was fraud. trump has the bigly votes from all america

go vote trump! stop the steal! eternal president trump will rule american forever#

biden eats babies and does other marxist communist stuff you dont like

Hooray! Chewkw is back!


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 3:43 pm
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except I've been here all along!

who am I?

am I me?

or am I ye?


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 4:26 pm
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you are the walrus


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 4:33 pm
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No, I am the egg man


 
Posted : 03/12/2020 4:55 pm
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The average American voter makes Brexiteers looks rational.

No, it's not the average voter. It's the extremes. Yes, there are some unfavourable opinions held by lots of people, but that's true here too. Don't kid yourself that we're any better than them or anyone else.


 
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