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Well, we are better than all of Europe. Gavin Williamson said so on TV this morning 😮
every time you think you've reached the limit of craziness it gets worse. It's like a Netflix series that doesn't quite know how to end itself, like 'Lost' on steroids.
Dems leading in the polls in both GA Senate races.
Is anybody clued up enough to know how the constituency’s they are up for voted in the Pres Election?
Here’s guilanni showing off his star witness, I bet the democrats are shitting themselves now that “drunk Karen” has exposed the smoking gun
Well, we are better than all of Europe. Gavin Williamson said so on TV this morning
Yep, look, we've got more COVID deaths than any of those rubbish European countries.
dantsw13 - senate seats are voted for on a state-wide basis.
In Georgia, loeffler is referred to as the junior senator as she is the most recently arrived; she was appointed by the governor - not elected.
The Warnock v loeffler debate is live on CNN; it's either Friday or Sunday.
Is that farting Rudy clip fake?
The last survey i saw regarding American christians estimated that around 40% of them believed in the Noahs ark thing and if it wasn't for those damned Turks they could prove it.
When one considers the above it's not hard to understand the cult like following he enjoys by the credulous and gullible among the population.
stumpyjon
Full MemberObama tried that, remember Obama care, reviled by many of the people it was directly helping.
TBF Obamacare is still about the most perfect example of politics failing I can think of. And not because of the obvious stuff- that it was hated by the people it'd help most, or the awesome fact that if you ask people about the "affordable care act" they're likely to approve while the same people when asked about "obamacare" are more likely to disapprove, when it's the same thing...
Nah, the big thing is that it's a Republican policy. Obama's administration realised they weren't going to be able to pass the healthcare act that they wanted, so as a compromise they dusted off Republican healthcare policy and said "OK, this is the best we can do, but it's still worth doing and we should be able to get it through without any trouble". And the second they announced it, suddenly that Republican policy was Evil Communist Democrat Leftist Madness. Republicans who'd been involved in writing it queued up to denounce it.
And it worked. That's the main thing. It never even looked like it wouldn't work.
Now, US politics is not UK politics but, remember all that next time someone says the left has to compromise and meet in the middle and take the centre. What happens in the real world is the left compromises and meets in the middle and the right says "that's too left wing" and lurches right and the compromise fails and then everyone says "yeah but that's because the left has to compromise..."
Is that farting Rudy clip fake?
Of course it is, no one in their right mind would miss a “pull my finger” opportunity like that.
oh, wait....
Frank C - so it’s a statewide vote for both races?
eskay & eddiebaby: we’ve all dated a “Karen” at some point, always a poor life choice after a few drinks.
dantsw13 - yes; that's how it works in every state.
Wisconsin supreme court refuses to hear Trump's election lawsuit, sending it back to a lower court, due process and all that 😀
All the while Covid rages on over there whilst Trump pressures this garbage. What an utter disgrace of a human being.
Poops - today's CV19 related death count in US is 2100+ so far; this is on track to overtake yesterday's 2800.
Scary numbers and disgraceful that neither trump nor pence have anything to say, no plan, no clue, no interest.
Don't make the mistake of seeing trump as a human being; a bag of malignant cells in an ill-fitting suit.
pence isn't much better; spineless fundamentalist bigot.
it's interesting that Agent Orange hasn't fired Barr yet. Me thinks Barr would have been asked by Trump to do some particularly illegal shit (and can prove it) so Trump is in a bind.
It's also not just the deaths in the US for a lot of people it's complete financial ruin to require hospital treatment (for Covid) even with insurance.
This is encouraging; let's hope it continues.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/528582-warnock-leading-loeffler-other-georgia-senate-runoff-race-deadlocked-poll
Could agree more Frank, calling "it" human degrades most of the rest of the race. Pence, as you say, just as bad. Utterly complicit.
She’s a CyberSecurity expert.
Expert witness. Aye,that's the way she came across 🤣
did she really say that, out loud, at a hearing. I can only now assume that what is happening is that they are deliberately putting up lots of people who will fail but who others can identify with, so that when 2024 comes around, Republicans can say the last election was stolen and point to all these good people who were ignored
‘Good’ people clearly meaning racists, bigots, liars and fruit loops.
It's not a real "hearing". It is a load of loons playing a game in a hotel.
Why are they doing it?
The drunk woman was my favorite.
Why are they doing it?
Because thier supporters can claim 'hearing was held, we were ignored'. It means outrageous lies and prejudice goes unchallenged.
They couldn't get their message out in any official way, so create your own 'official' system.
Me thinks Barr would have been asked by Trump to do some particularly illegal shit (and can prove it) so Trump is in a bind
As vile as Barr is I doubt he's stupid enough to have done something obviously illegal at Trump's request. Sure he's directed the DoJ far more politically than it should be and possibly some of that will come back to bite him but nothing that he's likely to end up in jail for. I think Trump just realises this late in the game it would be counter-productive to fire him and try and get another yes man (that's not totally incompetent) to replace him. That said if Trump has a bad hair day and throws his toys out of the pram I wouldn't put it past him tweeting he's fired Barr.
I doubt he’s stupid enough to have done something obviously illegal
I wasn't suggesting he had, I was suggesting Trump had asked him to.
Because thier supporters can claim ‘hearing was held, we were ignored’. It means outrageous lies and prejudice goes unchallenged.
I keep thinking "can they really be that stupid" then some crazy preachers comes up on my Twitter feed claiming Biden is going to destroy God.....
I keep thinking “can they really be that stupid”
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1334887896688549889
As an interesting aside, Lin Wood - the b#tsh1t crazy attorney who has been trying to out Sidney Sidney Powell with his allegations of fraud and general skullduggery leading to him calling for Reps to boycott elections, and thereby (hopefully) triggering an all-out MAGA civil war and the GOP loss of the Georgia Senate run-offs - is the guy who represented Vernon "Pedo guy" Usworth when he sued Elon Musk. Hardly surprising I guess that the attorney who managed to lose that nailed on defamation case is now so busy giving himself (and the GOP) both barrels in the feet..
current state certification count

As for jenna ellis who is always on stage with giuliani and describes herself as a 'Constitutional Law Attorney'...
…a review of [Jenna Ellis’s] professional history, as well as interviews with more than a half-dozen lawyers who have worked with her, show that Ms. Ellis, 36, is not the seasoned constitutional law expert she plays on TV…. Since she graduated law school in 2011, nothing in her record in the courtroom — limited mostly to appearances in state court as a prosecutor or as counsel for clients charged with assault, prostitution, theft and domestic abuse — shows any time spent litigating election law cases.
She holds herself out as an expert on the Constitution based on her self-published book and her teaching of pre-law classes to undergraduates. She has never appeared in federal district or circuit court, where most constitutional matters are considered, according to national databases of federal cases, and does not appear to have played a major role in any cases beyond her criminal and civil work in Colorado
Nothing much to add to that.
Another kick in the knackers for trump's 'legal' team...
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/528897-appeals-court-rejects-effort-to-block-bidens-win-in-georgia
Can he be impeached twice? Don't understand how this stuff is legal really.
https://twitter.com/DJJudd/status/1335316389884796928?s=19
jamze, I read that earlier and asked myself exactly the same question.
If this could be proven it must, surely, be grounds for some action against trump.
CNN reporting 1 million new CV19 cases in US in first 5 days of December.
First world country?
Yeah just seen that too.
Total cases in the US 14million, and 1 million in the last 5 days.
A doctor interviewed said they modelled that the Thanksgiving peak would hit hospitals 15 Dec, so it isn’t getting better soon.
If Thanksgiving peak hits around Dec 15 the US hospitals will be at/beyond breaking point at Christmas with the consequences of the festive season still to come.
One of my sons and his US born wife live over there; they have two young children of 30 months and 9 days.
I'm concerned.