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Damn, worldwide blackout coming
I think it was meant to be yesterday. A lot of people on TikTok etc pointing out to the QAnon nuts that (once again) absolutely nothing happened and there was no blackout.
You'd think at some point the fact that nothing Q predicts ever comes true would dent their belief system a bit, but it doesn't seem to.
Clouthub? Sounds legit.
One of the places that Parler refugees are migrating to. Also Bitchute, Telegram and MeWe.
Two members of Congress have tested positive for coronavirus after the pro-Trump siege on the Capitol last week.
Bonnie Watson Coleman, 75, and Pramila Jayapal, 55, both Democrats, tested positive after being forced to lockdown in a small room with many others as pro-Trump supporters broke into the building.
Some of their Republican colleagues refused to wear masks when sheltering, Jayapal said, calling such behaviour “selfish idiocy”.
From the BBC. What truly vile individuals, the linked video shows them grinning about their refusal to wear masks.
sounds like trump put his top drawer strike force legal team on the case
https://twitter.com/RealRichardBail/status/1348350747205885954
https://twitter.com/JanNWolfe/status/1348867890766897153
US lawyers seem to be set for the century. It’s beginning to seem as if a third or more of the population are happy to make scathing public accusations about any public figure, individual (or business entity) that they fancy?
Remember that mad bloke who was always late out of the pub, shouting bolx echoing up the streets:
‘yerall ****ing alien lizards, and, and DYOU KNOW HOW I KNOW THAT????’
(leans close and stares through you , then stabs at his temple with his index finger, winking, coating your face in that fruity acetate scent as he exhales a slow conspiratorial whisper...)
BeCOZ...........(gurning grin)......
....I know. So areyuh WITH me, or AGIN’ me, eh?’
Well, he seems to be everywhere now. What’s more, millions more seem to enjoy gargling his piss as if it’s the elixir of life.
So has this ever happened before? Declining a presidential medal? Can't find any examples.
https://twitter.com/bostonglobe/status/1348795244280737792?s=21
Yeah. I feel a bit let down by Tiger Woods who I always though was kind of OK. He accepted his medal basically for playing golf with Trump. Went down a lot in my estimation after that.
Went down a lot in my estimation after that.
He's obviously a very talented golfer, but he came across as a bit of a **** when his wife got sick of him and aired the dirty laundry.
Lin Wood seems to be pretty far down the QAnon rabbithole.
I'm not sure if it is all a cunning act to create uncertainty or if he has genuinely lost the plot. But he is going for all the usual Q targets "big revelations about these people coming soon... real soon.. honest... top secret operations happening... mainstream media won't tell you about this (because its all bollocks)..." etc etc
I'm curious why he hasn't been sued into bankruptcy. I assume people are wary of the Streisand Effect and are aware that if someone believes his ramblings then they are unlikely to be convinced by court action.
Lin Wood seems to be pretty far down the QAnon rabbithole.
I think he's mainly having a psychotic break.
You’d think at some point the fact that nothing Q predicts ever comes true would dent their belief system a bit, but it doesn’t seem to.
What happens is all the "only just going with it" types then leave the conspiracy.
Leaving an ever-more hardcore set of nutters behind.
Then the leader doubles down and predicts something else, and so on.
It is nuts how they keep predicting BIG THINGS that don't happen but that doesn't seem to shake their faith at all. It's just like doomsday cults from throughout history.
Damn, worldwide blackout coming
It is nuts how they keep predicting BIG THINGS that don’t happen but that doesn’t seem to shake their faith at all.
What? You don't believe? Definitely a blackout yesterday in the UK. It happened about 4.15pm, I remember because I had to turn the kitchen lights on.
You’d think at some point the fact that nothing Q predicts ever comes true would dent their belief system a bit, but it doesn’t seem to.
I asked a mate who's got a better handle on these things than me the same question and his answer was thus:
"It's ****ing brilliant in its simplicity, any time they are wrong it's a delibrate error to throw off the lib counter insurgency"
We're ****ed, I for one welcome our new rodent overlords after the fall, they can't be worse than the current shower.
They predicted 5G would wreck their lives, they just didn't realise it would be because of all the shiny cell-sites triangulating and logging their every movement through the Capitol.
If you really want to go down a Qanon rabbit hole, have a search for "Juan O'Savin" and "Mark Attwood" on youtube.
Absolutely mental.
I'm not sure if it's serious or it's just some piss take like the majority of flat earthers.
just some piss take like the majority of flat earthers.
Don't get me started. 😁
The overlaps are interesting though. A lot of flerfs are QAnon as well (crank magnetism). Often covidiots, anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers for the same reson.
And a lot of the same "rationale" is used too: e.g. "if it is so obviously false then why do you need to debunk it?", "you have strong reasoned arguments with sources, so you must be a paid disinfo agent", "dO yOuR oWn rEsEarCh" etc
A lot of flerfs are QAnon as well
That Attwood bloke I mentioned above claims that the Clintons, among others, rape then eat children. They also drink their blood and have blood transfusions.
This all take place in thousands of miles of underground tunnels.
The other one he claims is that peoples birth certificates are bought and sold for thousands of pounds, thousands of times. He doesn't give any reason why anyone would do this though.
The birth certificate thing got that widespread that the gov.uk made a statement about it. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/paying-debts-using-a-national-insurance-number-or-birth-certificate
Not heard the birth certificate one before, but yeah the whole "satanic elite pedos eating babies for Adrenochrome" stuff is pretty much the core QAnon belief.
Perhaps this is the real "blackout" that they were worried about? 😂
https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-suspends-70-000-accounts-linked-to-qanon-12185543
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/12/deutsche-bank-severs-ties-with-donald-trump
Deutsche Bank became the latest large company to cut ties with Donald Trump, with the firm that has propped up the Trump Organization for two decades reportedly announcing it would no longer do business with the disgraced president.
Dunno bout you lot but I could very easily carve "Trump" into the forehead of whatever **** did this
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1348745936499982339?s=20
Andrew O’Neil on the BBC again, telling us about the big bad bias of the social media companies and the media against Trump and the lovable far right.
flerfs
Not heard that before, like it. Somehow needs to be portmanteaud with Trumpism and QAnon.
Quanumperfers?
Qrumpets?
Is that carved into its body or scraped off gunk off its back? Like writing on a dirty van with your finger. Looks like the latter to me.
TrumQualerfers
Quaumpfs?
His death warrant that he signed on a mentally ill woman has been put back too.
I bet that would of got his ****ter response going.
The grain of truth in qanon though is Jeffrey Epstein, who it does look like was able to easily entrap many powerful people into embarrassing sex acts and probable pedophilia, for blackmail purposses if not just to enrich himself but also as a probable agent for a foreign power.
Now of course Trump was right at the front of the queue begging to be blackmailed, but also was Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew and a litany of those who hold wealth and power.
I really hope many powerful people get taken down in the investigation, because otherwise it will look like (and probably be) a cover up. And it is that kind of dishonesty and differential treatment that leads to the conspiracy theories, fake news agenda and just the general feeling of unfairness and inequality that the likes of Trump abuse to gain power.
If Andrew Neil was American we'd be calling him a white supremacist, same goes for Douglas Murray and a good deal of the Spectator and Telegraph writers.
I was listening to a Nina Simone song the other day an in it was the line:
"School boy cops, trying to tell us it's a communist plot."
She was refering to the fact that this was the argument put forward in the 60's in opposition to the civil rights movement. In the age of television and with the whole world watching the old Jim Crow arguments wouldn't cut it any more so they needed to find a new argument. An argument which many in the non segregationist states could adopt also.
This is the argument Andrew Neil and Co. are repeating today. They are using the same words as George Wallace and Bull Connor, the most notorious and the most vicious segregationists in 60's America.
Some reporting coming in now on pardons. I'd noticed they'd stopped...
https://twitter.com/draperrobert/status/1348991625054343168?s=21
The grain of truth in qanon though is Jeffrey Epstein
And this is the problem. QAnon point to Epstein, Weinstein, Prince Andrew, NXIVM and say "See? Proof!" and if you cast doubt you are just defending pedos. Don't you care about children?
In reality, any sane adult knows that pedo rings and other sexual abuse stuff does happen. But there is a pretty big jump from "some people are nonces" to "all of hollywood, the elite and liberal politicians are involved in satanic babyeating rituals and Trump is heroically fighting a secret war to bring them down" 🤪
reporting that Trump's been advised a self-pardon would be an admission of guilt & open the door to lawsuits from those injured. "The attitude seems to be, `If I can't get a pardon, then nobody else should be able to get one either.'"
Perhaps this is the moment where the years of crap finally cannot be swept away and hidden? One way or another now he is in the doo-doo personally and professionally up to his neck, and no-one can or will help.
all of hollywood, the elite and liberal politicians are involved in satanic babyeating rituals and Trump is heroically fighting a secret war to bring them down”
In fact, Trump is so dedicated to his work to fight the evil of rich old men abusing young women that he has gone deep undercover to a similar extent Reece Dinsdale's character did in cult classic film I.D. (love you Gumbo).
It makes sense that QAnon chose a site riddled with child abuse images and people exchanging stories about child abuse because of a lack of moderation to message out to supporters about the war against child abuse.
Seems legit...
I don't see much reference to this but as nickc says back in the earlier days of the internet 4chan always had a reputation for being where people could post whatever they wanted and apparently that frequently included child porn etc.
Very strange that they now consider themselves the saviours of children.
His death warrant that he signed on a mentally ill woman has been put back too.
That is good news. That is a horrific story and the idea of Trump getting some sort of capital out of pushing it forward is just too much
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/11/capitol-riot-self-coup-trump-fiona-hill-457549
Honestly it'll take years to unpick all of this.
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1349017587368263680
And the ****er is going to the bloody Alamo tomorrow. Pence is gonna regret not hitting him with the 25th.
EDIT: Correction, not The Alamo - Alamo the city, which is slightly less inflammatory, I guess!
Wondering what would happen if air force 1 just disappeared.
Or he landed in Texas and got told he was not the president anymore.
* Sorry Mr trump the radio went wonky
Horrid case but the woman is clearly not fit to be charged in normal court of law.
completely agree
Pence is gonna regret not hitting him with the 25th.
They should have upgraded it's software #worstsyntheticVPever
One way or another now he is in the doo-doo personally and professionally up to his neck, and no-one can or will help.
But, Rudy...
Pence is gonna regret not hitting him with the 25th.
I imagine Pence is a bit worried about his safety and that of his family. He's in a pretty horrible position.
You have to imagine that if he restricts pardons for his close associates then they will all be shortly contacting the fbi or similar to offer information to help with the plea bargains.
I imagine Pence is a bit worried about his safety and that of his family. He’s in a pretty horrible position.
True - I don't envy him at all. Maybe he'll chose his colleagues more wisely in the future.
I struggle to muster much sympathy for Pence, he's a deplorable human himself all bracketed under his religion and "morals". Don't forget back in 2016 when Trump got in that there were plenty who were viewing Trump as the lesser of two evils
For the record I don't wish him or his family harm.
How do we think the next couple of weeks are going to go?
Anyone watching this cracker speak in Texas?! He’s talking non stop grade A shite and is showing no sign of stopping. He’s said “aliens” instead of “immigrants” at least 4 times now. WTF
EDIT: Correction, not The Alamo – Alamo the city, which is slightly less inflammatory, I guess!
Given recent experience at gardening businesses, what's the odds he thinks it's THE Alamo? 🤣
In general, the next few weeks and months will get better, responsible adults are back in the White House and anxiety will lessen for sane people as they wake up each morning not wondering what insane or irresponsible or criminal move the government has taken.
Interspersed with random acts of terror, many with more bark than bite but a Waco type event is surely inevitable.
For the Republcans the death spiral has begun. They've already crawled back under their rock and are back to being consumed by self interest.
If half of Republican voters approve of the putsch that means that over 30 million American citizens have been radicalized and they have been armed with machine guns by the Republican party. Open carry will be banned within months, it will happen as a reaction to the inevitable Waco type event.
Open carry will be banned within months, it will happen as a reaction to the inevitable Waco type event.
Sorry, that's not going to happen.
Multiple horrific events have been met with huge resistance to any gun control.
Thanks Whitestone that makes a bit more sense now. 😂
He used the term aliens/immigrants interchangeably and I thought he’d lost it (even more).
Matt,
Fair enough but we haven't seen significant conflict with Government agencies since Waco and the Oklahoma bombing. Ill stick my neck out and say open carry of long guns (at least) will be banned by the end of the year.
How ironic that the Police over reaction to black protests from Ferguson onwards may have provided the training for the conflicts to come.
Ferguson should be twinned with Fallujah. The tactics used in Ferguson against mostly peacefully black protesters were learnt fighting the early incarnations of Isis in Fallujah. As were the tanks and combat gear, some of which was probably army surplus from that actual battle.
I say ironic when I mean profound.
Much to my amazement……
Very much so, but they need rid of him for their medium/long term aspirations, so the motivation is there
Well shiver me timbers. I'll believe it when I see it. I absolutely think the top brass Rs want Trump to go away, but they need to do it in a way that doesn't alienate* his base. I don't know how they do that - the racists, insurrection apologists and other QAnon crazies make up a staggering proportion of his voters.
*Nickewen this is nothing to do with martians either 😛
McConnell jumping ship? trump really is FUBAR
I reckon the plan is to delay impeachment trial until Dems take control. Then they’ll have the numbers to do it without Rep help, so they can cling on to that base if they want.
No they don’t. 2/3 majority for impeachment. 16 Rs need to vote to convict him.
House Republican Conference chair Liz Cheney: 'I will vote to impeach the President'
Its gathering speed. there will be a tipping point at which its better for republicans to ditch trump and when that point is reached this will become a flood.
If those two are open to / in favour of impeachment than maybe we are at the tipping point. No one will want to be the last trump acolyte
Bear in mind that potentially the reason (the source for) that article has been given to the press is to ‘test the water’ among Mitch’s colleagues. It gets Rs talking but if Trump (or anyone) asks, McConnell can claim it’s fake news, he never said that. Now McConnell goes into hiding for a few days until the dust settles. He’s a snake.
But hey, if it gets people thinking / talking then maybe it’ll achieve something.
It's all about funding and support base, combined. I think many of the R's will have support from pac's of votes who provide funding and support. If the funding starts to trickle away they will start to change their allegiances. That and them not wanting to be one of a minority in the remaining party.
Cheney has been saying that for days. She’s in the house, where they vote to impeach by a simple majority, which the Dems have.
Senate is 50/50 R/D and they need 2/3 there to convict.
I think the next election cycle is lost to the GOP whatever happens. If they appeal to Dons base, moderates will vote D. If they drop him, the base won’t vote.
They need to decide what they actually stand for and move forward.
I absolutely think the top brass Rs want Trump to go away, but they need to do it in a way that doesn’t alienate* his base.
Better to do it now, like ripping off a plaster and they've got 4 years to get them back than have it dragging on towards the next election cycle.
Actually, that starts in about 2 years in their ****ed up system doesn't it! But yeah, hoping this really starts to snowball.
McConell needs to be more explicit
Reps still to terrified of Trumps base
Until Qanon is no longer a thing then they wont move off it
as for all that paedophile stuff, projection much?
Correction, not The Alamo – Alamo the city, which is slightly less inflammatory, I guess!
https://twitter.com/MPRadamacue/status/1349022640825098252
/\/\ whys Jeff off of byker grove getting involved?
/\/\ whys Jeff off of byker grove getting involved?
If Trump appears on next years I’m a Celebrity with Ant and Dec they’ve got to have been Q all along, or perhaps it was Spuggie?
As we pour scorn and disgust (rightly so) on a subsection of Americans beliefs and actions I fear we have been on the same trajectory since before the Brexit vote ultimately split the uk, and I’m not referring to the vote split between devolved nation states rather the split between two sections of society, the trump/Brexit vote & their beliefs vs everyone else who is deemed a traitor.
https://twitter.com/femi_sorry/status/1348887439239090181?s=21
I think the next election cycle is lost to the GOP whatever happens. If they appeal to Dons base, moderates will vote D. If they drop him, the base won’t vote.
They need to decide what they actually stand for and move forward.
I really don't know, the GOP had the appetite for a deal with the devil before, Trump might be too toxic for a 2024 run himself, but his base of nutters can potentially swing an election.
So he might be talked (paid) into endorsing a Rep' presidential candidate in four years?
Alternatively, if he avoids prosecution, he could set up a 3rd Alt right party, or lend support to one if he's ineligible for the presidency, thereby helping to split the right and keeping the Republicans out of power for most of the 20s...
He weilds just enough influence to piss on the GOP's chips for the next decade or give them a shot in four years... If he can stay out of prison.
That ABC News article on QAnon is pretty decent. Concurs with what I’ve read in other articles and on boards etc: Q is Jim Watkins (possibly with other authors).
There have been other tells, such as Watkins and Q using similar language and both sharing a hobby of collecting fancy wooden fountain pens.
The route to keeping Trump’s base on side, and get back some of the more sensible right wing voters, is Ivanka in 2024. The Republicans can have two campaigns, hers and his, but one candidate… her. Their support will be split, but I can see a few paths to uniting them at the polling both. A running mate for Ivanka that’s seen as a moderate, for example, but with the blessing of President Trump.
The problem there is that Jared Kushner is a creepy Jewish guy and a lot of the base voters are racist bigots. I don't know if you've seen the stuff posted online about her marrying him, but it's nasty race-traitor stuff. They are basically wealthy New York liberals whose hearts aren't really in the race-war stuff. I can't see her getting anywhere as a candidate, she has no base.