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Though it’s still unclear if he can parson himself and it creates the problem that it sort of admits to having commited a crime
But is that a problem for him? The left know he's committed crimes, but his fans think he's a genius. See the whole 'tax returns' debacle.
He would play it along the lines of:
"I'm sad to be leaving the presidency, but I'll be back and stronger than ever in 2024! Now, those deep-fake deep-state actors don't want me to run again, but I hereby promise you good folks that I will! Sure, they'll all try and stop me - they know what we've achieved so far and how much of a threat we are to their deep-state system. Sad! But I'm smart (so smart!) so I have a plan to own the libs. I'm going to pardon myself and all the hardworking folk in my administration. That way they'll never take me down! Make America Rise Again! <without irony> Drain. The. Swamp! #Trump2024
Hell, he makes Nixon look like a conventional president.
Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, John McCain, Romney, all look like raging pinko-liberals in comparison. Jesus, Romney's immigration policy was to just make immigrants so miserable they would self-deport. He was such a pussy he even supported granting human rights to refugees.
There’s a chance Biden may offer him a pardon.
Normally I would say that would be a good political move. In Trump's case, zero chance. The implication of a pardon is that the person is guilty. If Trump came out, confessed to everything, showed remorse, and apologized, then a pardon might be a good idea. Ain't gonna happen.
I Trump is pardoned in any way and then is called as a witness in any case he can no longer plead the 5th and if he is not 100% forthcoming or truthful then he goes to jail for contempt of court. thats the dilemma for him
This is interesting:
Maryland Governor repeatedly denied authorisation to send the national guard to DC.
It seems like it should be fairly easy to work out where the orders came from, and when. Someone’s got significant explaining to do.
The constitution has had a few amendments, but Americans worship it like the Bible so most of it reflects 18th century thinking and it’s close to impossible to amend it now.
They were happy to repeal the 18th amendment. They are up to 27 amendments, the last being made in 1992. So not a frequent occurrence but feasible nonetheless.
I Trump is pardoned in any way and then is called as a witness in any case he can no longer plead the 5th and if he is not 100% forthcoming or truthful then he goes to jail for contempt of court. thats the dilemma for him
But what if his pardon covers contempt of court? Either way, he'll try and stay out of court rooms through whatever means possible.
Imagine if all the off duty police that were part of the mob had stopped their rioting and decided to help their fellow officers out.
They are up to 27 amendments, the last being made in 1992. So not a frequent occurrence but feasible nonetheless.
The 27th Amendment was proposed along with the Bill of Rights way back in the 18th century. It sat on the shelf for 200 years before it was ratified in 1992.
The 26th Amendment was proposed and ratified in 1971. It is currently the most recently proposed amendment. That was 50 years ago.
The 25th amendment was proposed in 1965 and ratified in 1967. That was four years before the 27th.
The 24th amendment was proposed in 1962 and ratified in 1964. That was three years before the 26th.
So, it used to be fairly easy to amend the constitution. Now, it's not. That's for political reasons, not legal reasons. It hasn't happened in 50 years and Republicans are not going to support an amendment proposed by Joe Biden.
It hasn’t happened in 50 years and Republicans are not going to support an amendment proposed by Joe Biden.
Then Biden should still do the right thing and let them vote it down, highlight that the Dem's would concede presidential powers for the good of the nation when they are in control and have the power not just calling for it from opposition. Let the republicans humiliate themselves trying to argue against it.
But what if his pardon covers contempt of court? Either way, he’ll try and stay out of court rooms through whatever means possible.
That would be pardoning for future crimes not past ones which cannot be done. a pardon does not give you blanket immunity for ever.
It looks like the normal service of caps and exclamation marks has been resumed
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1347555316863553542?s=20
That would be pardoning for future crimes not past ones which cannot be done. a pardon does not give you blanket immunity for ever.
I'm sure he would state something along the lines of the pardon can be used for any crime, but that he will use it for a specific charge. He can only be compelled to answer questions about that crime, but he will argue that
I.e. His narrative would be that they'd have to charge and convict him of a crime, and only then be able to compell him to answer further questions. But, oh no, he can't comment on that because it might reveal a different crime. State court, bounced to a higher court, back down, back up, maybe to the Supreme Court. All over the space of a few years, by which point he's an old man.
We still haven't seen the guy's tax returns.
It looks like the normal service of caps and exclamation marks has been resumed
Good. Impeachment was always going to be harder to justify when he was pretending to be conciliatory.
Let the republicans humiliate themselves trying to argue against it.
Have you read the news in the last 15 years? Do you seriously think Republicans care about humiliation in front of liberals. Check out Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley. Both are graduates from elite law schools and understand the law. Supported the insurrection because they don't care about humiliation, just whether rednecks will vote for them.
The gold plated bawbag has just tweeted that he won't be attending Biden's inauguration. Completely expected classy move there Donald
Graceless until the end
This looks like one of those fake pay up or we'll tell your mom where you've been surfing sort of notices from 10 years or so ago 🙂
The gold plated bawbag has just tweeted that he won’t be attending Biden’s inauguration.
It'll be too cold to stand outside for hours in an orange jumpsuit anyway.
I'm liking Sidney Powell being sued by Dominion. As much as I hate the power of big money lawyers, you shouldn't be able to throw around accusations in public unless you have at least a little amount of proof.
Nice summary from John Bercow, who stopped Trump from speaking in parliament when the Tory's wanted to roll out the red carpet
https://twitter.com/ukiswitheu/status/1347542753664708608?s=20
Multiple reports that circumstances of one of Wednesday's fatalities involved the attempted theft of a painting of Tip O'Neill, the accidental discharge of a poorly holstered taser and the miscreant's testicles.
Impeachment was always going to be harder to justify when he was pretending to be conciliatory.
This is borderline conciliatory. Still, remember he's a complete ****ing liar though.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1347334804052844550
the attempted theft of a painting of Tip O’Neill,
Just the Tip?
Multiple reports that circumstances of one of Wednesday’s fatalities involved the attempted theft of a painting of Tip O’Neill
So, applying Trump's own rationale when commentating on the BLM protesters, these lot are nothing more than a bunch of looters?
Multiple reports that circumstances of one of Wednesday’s fatalities involved the attempted theft of a painting of Tip O’Neill, the accidental discharge of a poorly holstered taser and the miscreant’s testicles.
That's hitting multple Darwin award criteria.
Copied from a tweet,
"And when they had gone to the trouble of providing a high chair and crayons to keep him entertained..."
This made me laugh:
The way this white guy reclaimed the term 'cracker' is brilliant. I think it's the perfect casual epithet to describe Teumpists.
If the Republicans split the new party should call themselves 'The Cracker Party'. It's certainly what I'll be calling them.
Though if you mix crackers with the Tea Party it'll end in a soggy mess.
Removing political interference from the judicial system is an easy sell to all parties supporters, it is selling an argument their is universal agreement for, but it is a power I suspect the politicians want to weld, so that is the only reason they won’t try, not because it can’t be done.
You seemed to suggest that it would be an easy thing to achieve. I really think that’s not the case.
I may have misinterpreted, and you meant that it would have widespread support outside politics, though I’m not sure that’s true either.
However...
So you agree, it’s not that it can’t be done that’s the problem, it’s not the republicans stopping them from trying, but because they don’t want to fix the system.
Beginning a post with “so you agree” and then stating something you seem to think that isn’t support by what I wrote isn’t a good start! I certainly don’t agree with that.
You’ll also notice I (deliberately) didn’t mention either party.
Isn't photo #36 above Stephen Mulhern from BGT?
It's hard to see how that lawsuit against Powell can fail. Trump and his sycophants have been shouting about having evidence without actually providing anything close since his loss. Dominion will have, as they state in the lawsuit, demonstrable evidence that there has been no tampering.
It would be lovely to see them slapped with a 1.3 billion dollar charge!
And it'd be impossible to claim there's no damage/lasting harm, or intent for that to occur- nobody had even heard of Dominion before this election but now they're a bogeyman and that'll keep coming back to bite them in every future election. If you were speccing a voting machine for your state/country/whatever, that could easily influence the decision- things have to not just be safe and reliable but also trusted and these lies and fantasies from places that should be respectable and reliable will definitely undermine that.
This is where it all started.
Marina Hyde warning of what's to come in the UK now that we've put the word 'news' in parenthesis.
Just catching up and it's of interest that only Federal crimes can be pardoned by El Presidente. State crimes are only pardoned by the state governor, hello New York! At 1 minute after he ceases to be CIC I expect that Governor Cuomo's legal representation will invite Mr Trump to try on some stylish jewellery in stainless steel and take a ride in a state vehicle.
Pelosi has contacted Mark Milley, chief of the general staff, about how to '...prevent an unhinged president from accessing the nuclear codes'.
No further information published- yet.
Following on from taserballs heartattack man we now have...
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This is Roseanne Boyland, the woman who was crushed to death by her fellow domestic terrorists during the attack on the Capitol. The flag she was carrying, if you don't recognise it, says "Don't Tread On Me"
Multiple reports that circumstances of one of Wednesday’s fatalities involved the attempted theft of a painting of Tip O’Neill, the accidental discharge of a poorly holstered taser and the miscreant’s testicles.
This is like Darwin Award with bar - not only does the perp destroy his ability to procreate, he then manages to remove himself from the gene pool entirely.
Re the fox style news here: dunno if anyone has noticed but Talk Radio has already gone full far-right wacko - their YouTube channel is a scary place.
Talk Radio has already gone full far-right wacko – their YouTube channel is a scary place.
And been blocked, I think I read the other day.
Was unblocked but with a content warning within a day
Andrew Neil has been going after anyone that says he's a trump apologist on twitter, completely ignoring the spectator & other RW journos, who have relentlessly told us trump isn't a fascist for the last 5 years
The Tories suddenly dismayed at trump, who have been cheering them on, likewise full of shit
The Brexit-trump-banon-Tufton Street axis all of sudden are a bit upset that they've been exposed for what they are
But they'll regain control of the narrative again soon
The Brexit-trump-banon-Tufton Street axis all of sudden are a bit upset that they’ve been exposed for what they are
I think it'll be a toss-up between Trump and Bannon as to who gets thrown in prison first.
Hmm. Looks like the Trumpets will have found their ‘Antifa’ leader of the riot 🙄
A prominent left-wing activist from Utah was among the pro-Trump mob, according to multiple videos from Wednesday's invasion of the Capitol.
But John Sullivan, 26, says he was just there to "document" it.
I always thought it was the same thing as the sun.
Not at all, they’re different things. The moon is at least useful as it provides some illumination at night. The sun, on the other hand, only ever comes out in the day when it’s light anyway.