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Like the actual Yeti, you are renowned for your camera shyness.
Like the actual Yeti, you are renowned for your hideous monsterlike features
dont post a photo yeti, come on a ride instead and i can stroke your belly then
breakfast: museli- oatflakes, wheatflakes, mixed nuts & dried fruit plus wholemeal bread with acacia honey.
mid morning: black coffee /no sugar
lunch: mixed rice and beans, broccoli, chicken, olives, tomato with fresh basil and parsley.
I've already been for a run, it was nice outside.
Kev
I'm off for a run.
No you're not.
I was talking to Jo about coming down to your manor Phil...
[i]Dave [s]and Solo[/s] opened my eyes to it, but a very long time reading about the primal plan has concreted my future hopefully.[/i]
Similar for me here.
🙂
And.... I've yet to find good, hard, independant data indicating that bread is [i]good[/i] for me, us, the French.... Anyone.
So I've been thinking about getting into running because road biking can get boring. Are a decent pair of shoes required, any recommendations? How long should I go for a "first run" to avoid getting shin splints or whatever?
Solo - but bread is soooo good. Especially French bread with Presidente butter on it. IS there any real evidence that it's bad for us?
Tom... Get some proper shoes and start slowly... I like Asics personally.
Was gonna put in some diet and exercise chat but got distracted by the just giving link feauring picture of Yeti's bird. So, what about posting some pictures of her diddies for us Yeti and in exchange I'll talk dirty to you about sweat and carbs and all sorts.
Donate some money and I'll think about it...
_tom_ - Member
So I've been thinking about getting into running because road biking can get boring. Are a decent pair of shoes required, any recommendations? How long should I go for a "first run" to avoid getting shin splints or whatever?
google 'couch to 5k' for some advice. If you like running go to a proper shop and get fitted for some trainers which suit your gait.
Tom,
all good advice, try on lots of trainers and choose the ones that are comfy for you, (don't worry about barefoot or whatever) start slow and short runs and build up slowly.
Tom,
Get the trainers that look the fastest, red usually, and then just hammer out a 15mile run. If you can still walk the next day, then you have cracked it.
...however, if you feel a lot of pain, then you probably have also cracked it.*
*in a stress fracture stylee.
TSY.
Milk aside 😉 ...
Bread contains phytate.
Studies into its effect in nutrient absorption seem to indicate that phytate hinders nutrient absorption.
[i]The results strongly suggest that the inhibitory effect of
bran on iron absorption is due to its content of phytate
and other inositol phosphates present after fermenta
tion, rather than to its content of fiber or other constitu
ents. Thus, effective fermentation will increase the bioavailability
of iron in whole-meal bread. J. Nutr. 122:
442-449, 1992.[/i]
Bread also contains lectins.
Lectins are found in a lot of foods, but appear to be more concentrated in bread.
So, if you care, which you don't as you are relying on a real time demonstration of the nietzsche approach to eating.
Go research what lectins do to us.
And as for gluten, well.
Theres loads on that, about the inturdnet.
If you're interested.
All I've go to say is thank goodness for the mediterainian diet, eh ?.
Goodness only knows how we, as a race, survived without it.
For the preceeding 2.5 million years.....
You know, before the French olympic team landed on planet earth.
It's okay Solo... I donate blood the other day and they said my iron levels were Awesome 🙂
Tell me about lectin and gluten 🙂
Thanks for the running advice, especially you Jamie 🙂 I think I'll give the couch to 5k thing a go. Can I still road bike on "off days" or will that not give me enough recovery?
[i]Tell me about lectin and gluten[/i]
snore 🙄
It's just food...trying to make food into stuff that's bad and stuff that's good is a waste of time I think.
/serious mode
Don't worry to much at the start about what shoes your wearing. Start slow. Don't be afraid to walk. If you can, run off road on fields, bridleways etc, as its a) more enjoyable and b) easier on your joints....well assuming you don't snap your ankle in a rabbit hole 😉
Loads of flat bridleways about 5 minutes away so off road should be do-able and probably more interesting than biking on them.
Loads of flat bridleways about 5 minutes away so off road should be do-able and probably more interesting than biking on them.
You're in the same boat as me, if I remember right. Soon you will have sold the MTB and just run and take the road bike out when it's sunny 8)
TSY.
You don't need me to tell you anything.
You eat what you like, you move about at a ridiculous intensity and maintain a very lean physique, which appears to please you.
But as you are, you can't attribute your BF percentage to anything as you claim not to know what you're doing.
Well, besides when you claim that you've read x,y,z somewhere.....
Just carry on.
I just can't be doing with twits who promote eating stuff which is so obviously not that [i]good[/i] for us.
Its almost wreckless.
Theres nothing [i]good[/i] that you get from bread.
That you can't get more of, from others sources.
Don't get me wrong.
I like the taste of bread.
But that doesn't make it a good thing.
I tend to try to make the distinction now, between what foods the body appears to tolerate, and what it will actualy thank you for eating.
That may seem like a subtle difference, but one I feel is worth making note of.
in my humble opinion.
You're in the same boat as me, if I remember right. Soon you will have sold the MTB and just run and take the road bike out when it's sunny
Yeah I'm in Northamptonshire, no exciting off road here. I save the mtb for days off where I take it down to Woburn to ride if I can be arsed to drive. Road bike gets used every day at the minute.
Solo - would you consider that home-made bread, or indeed perhaps less common/artisan ones, to be in the same category as the mass-produced ones?
I enjoy learning about science. Should I stop doing it? I am just terribly curious about how it all works.
Educator I slagged you off because you acted like a complete tit, rubbishing someone else's considerable experience based on your own much lesser experience. Even if you don't believe him the grown up thing to do is just say that you are sceptical and leave it there. Or better still, try and learn what you can from a different point of view. You don't appear to be very good at learning since you think the icier is high in meat and bad for your guts, when it's been said a thousand times that it's high in veg and legumes and as such is great for your guts.
And you also ignore those folk who follow your diet and aren't at a racing weight.
In other news, 23m09 for 5k last night, disappointed as I felt good at first but my knees ended up hurting still 🙁
[i]Solo - would you consider that home-made bread, or indeed perhaps less common/artisan ones, to be in the same category as the mass-produced ones? [/i]
I was just out the door, but as its you.
🙂
I've just risen to the bait spouted by types who promote bread as essential in a [i]healthy[/i] diet.
Whatever one of those is.
Furthermore, personal experience has convinced me that all I get from eating bread regularly, is heavier.
But, I'm obviously aware that there are those for whom eating bread appears not to have any obvioulsy detrimental effect.
If you are one of those people, then carry on enjoying your bread, for the taste of bread.
If you enjoy baking it, even better as at least you're having some positive [i]me[/i] time in the kitchen, and you get to control exactly what goes into your home baked loaf.
So, is home baked bread any better for you ?, well that depends on your point of view.
But on the basis of supporting a nutrient rich diet.
I'd say its not needed.
just eaten a proper 'illness in later life' meal...
beef burgandy, off the primal plan recipe list, with cauliflower rice, sugar snaps and green beans.
i now feel terrible........ 😀
I had lovely fresh green beans, petit pois and roast chicken. My poor bowels!
Thank you Solo although you need to try harder to convince me not to. 😉 I consider it a staple of my diet although eaten in a very small quantity and it has to be Warburton's!
I am however very much aware that bread ain't what it used to be and such huge quantities I ate as a child. Production methods change as does the grain itself and my stomach doesn't really thank me for it either. 🙁
So it's being reduced to alternate days but, really, you don't surely think I would make my own bread? 😯 Did I mention I have bikes to ride. 😆
Seriously, always enjoy your input so thanks. 8)
On Friday last week i started iDave diet 0.5 as a little experiment. I'm not fat, and have never been - my BMI is bang in the middle of 'normal' (i'm 6'1"). Until recently i was able to eat whatever i liked and it didn't appear on my body anywhere. But i've noticed over the last couple of years that if i eat too much crap without enough exercise it starts to show. So, i figure it is time to alter what i eat.
As lots of people have commented - much to iDave's frustration - breakfast is perhaps the meal it is hardest to change. It is purely phycological, of course, borne out of habit. But when i was an undergrad i'd eat all kind of non-breakfasty breakfasts (cake and jelly was a particular highlight). Anyway, like Edukator i'm a big fan of muesli for breakfast and it is quick to make, so i decided to keep that in the diet but replace other meals with low insulinemic stuff (hence iDD 0.5). I figured it would be alright as i'm only looking to control my weight, not lose it.
Last friday morning i weighed myself on some of those scales which send an electrical pulse through your body and then it guesses your body fat, muscle mass, hydration level and bone mass. My vitals were:
Weight - 75.5kg
BF% - 18.9
Seven days later:
Weight - 73.2 (2.3kg)
BF% - 17.5 (-1.4)
In terms of exercise i did an hour on my turbo trainer (Sufferfest, The Hunted), and some light weights. Not bad i reckon.
C'mon Solo I want to learn... what one text should I read on Paleo? and Why?
I just read an article on overtraining whilst waiting for my breakfast baguette... it would seem I don't exhibit any of the symptoms apart from volume.
2.3kg is a lot to loose in 7 days and not that healthy a thing to do.
I looked at idiet and decided it wasnt for me as I am not a pro athlete and I like my food, plus I simply do not have the time to cook what is needed.
Odly I am currently loosing weight without dieting or using a diet of any sort and still get to eat lots of yummy stuff. Oh and I feel great too.
I think if I was a pro athlete I would take a more scientific approach, but I am not, and want to enjoy life, so for now will continue to eat what I like (in moderation) and exercise.
Thats not to say some of the stuff above isn't interesting, but because I'm not a pro athlete thers more to life for me.
I think taking two one off measurements is not the best way to monitor your weight. When I was keeping a close eye on my weight (to make a weight class) I would weigh myself every day keeping as many factors as possible constant. For example, I would weigh myself as soon as I got up after having a pee and I would not be wearing clothes.
My weight would still vary from day to day by about 0.5kg but over the course of a week you could see if it was trending down or up and figure out what your 'average weight' was.
Even taking out as many variables as possible one off measurements aren't accurate IMO although it does sound like you lost a fair bit of weight.
My weight would still vary from day to day by about 0.5kg but over the course of a week you could see if it was trending down or up and figure out what your 'average weight' was.
Agreed. I dropped 2.6lb in 5 mins this morning.
I also tried it for 2 weeks, ending last Friday.
Stuck to it religiously, eggs for breakfast and an off day etc, and after the 2 weeks were up I hadn't really lost any weight.
I believe the reason why, is that I did too much exercise, and rather than 'target' carbs around that exercising, I just ate more meat/nuts etc.
Exercise was:
Week 1 - 205m on the Bike/2hrs Badminton/10m Run
Week 2 - 35m running/10m walk/60m Riding
It also seemed, that despite the volumes I ate, I felt..erm...hollow?...and getting going in the morning was a bit tough. Again, I believe this was not fuelling around the exercise properly...i.e no cheesecake...and also the body needing a period of adaption to switch fuels, before lobbing a shedload of exercise at it.
I think for weight loss, I need to lose about a stone, I might try again, but reduce the exercise right down to a couple of 10k runs in the week, and see if I fare better over a fortnight. Failing that, keep the breakfast like CaptJon and see what happens.
One thing I should note, apart from occasional weekend splurges, I never really ate much rice, spuds, pasta beforehand. So maybe that was a factor.
So there we go, I tried it. Didn't start losing 4-5lb a week, but then there was probably reasons for that. After reading [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-We-Get-Fat-about/dp/0307949435/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334219390&sr=8-1 ]Why We Get Fat by Taubes[/url] and watching the Fathead doc, I can see the science makes sense. Just a matter of applying it correctly.
and then it guesses
...and those guesses are about as accurate as me guessing 😉
Jamie - try carb depleted exercise.
BruceWee - Member
I think taking two one off measurements is not the best way to monitor your weight. When I was keeping a close eye on my weight (to make a weight class) I would weigh myself every day keeping as many factors as possible constant. For example, I would weigh myself as soon as I got up after having a pee and I would not be wearing clothes.
That's what i did. Although i kept my boxers on. Did you you know a whiteboard pen works on bathroom tiles? A great way to track progress.
FunkyDunc - Member
2.3kg is a lot to loose in 7 days and not that healthy a thing to do.
I was a little shocked, but it is consistent with other iDieters. I'd be interested to read the science behind the 'not that healthy a thing to do' assertion.
I feel great, and my sleep has been amazing.
Jamie - try carb depleted exercise.
I was for 2 weeks.
....and my sleep has been amazing.
I had poor sleep. Again, probably due to under fuelling. Despite eating a cows worth of meat.
If you were carb depleted how was anything like the iDiet?
I had an iDea last night... an experiment if you wish.
iDave and I are riding a 90 mile sportive together on Sunday... neither of us particularly doing it for the scenery.
iDave is no doubt going to stick to his diet... does anyone want to provide me with a nutritional plan for Saturday and Sunday to see how it gets on against the iDiet??
Jamie, I mean riding, running, whatever first thing in the morning when your stomach is growling at you.
What, so we compare poo or something before the ride?
The Southern Yeti - MemberiDave is no doubt going to stick to his diet... does anyone want to provide me with a nutritional plan for Saturday and Sunday to see how it gets on against the iDiet??
Muesli, bread, cheesecake and coke to drink... maybe mars milk shake too.
Jamie - MemberI had poor sleep. Again, probably due to under fuelling. Despite eating a cows worth of meat.
Sounds like you need the iDD 0.5, it is the new thing sweeping the dieting world.
I was thinking more of seeing if I feel / notice a difference, but we can get all [s]Dr[/s] Gillian McKieth if you want? Plus I fancy handing over responsibility for my meal planning to someone else for a couple of days.
Me! Me! Me!
Saturday is carb loading day, so 500g of sawdust. An underrated, but awesome source of carbs and fibre.
Sunday is time to get those fats and proteins up, so treat yourself to as many fat-balls and meal worms from the bird table that are needed to sate the appetite. Grass is also allowed on both days - never skip in the greens!, but won't really have much effect on short term performance so don't beat yourself up too much if you don't get enough of it. Astroturf isn't an acceptable substitute though.