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First you will need an Authentic Land Rover tool kit.

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you'll probably need some bits of wood to help line things up too.... got any?? 😉

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can you not take the rad etc out and then bolt it all together and swing it down in?

You need a few pairs of hands and prepare to swear a lot and lose some skin.

can you not take the rad etc out and then bolt it all together and swing it down in?

Have you seen how big a Land Rover gear and transfer box is? The radiator, intercooler and oil cooler are all out. There is a lot of room, but engine mounts make the approach angle tricky.

Alfabus, I think you are spot on, I'll have to get creative with wood. 😯

slacken gear box mounts and use a jack to tilt nose of box up

least with my fender i prefer to fit engine and take out the seatbox andnfit the gear box to the engine with the crane in the cab.

dont think thats a goer

i had to split box and engine on my garage floor last week using a prybar ,:D

300tdi is it ? 7000since a rebuild maybe ?

a v8 engine and lt85 with transfer box and manifolds is 6ft 3 long ~ you can get one into a peugeot partner van with care. sits on its bump stops mind 😉

300tdi is it ? 7000since a rebuild maybe ?

The seller said it had been completely rebuilt from the bottom up with a brand new genuine 'head. He crashed the car after 7k and saved the engine.

On early Range Rovers you could take out the transmission tunnel which helps a lot, no so on Discos. There is a lt to be said for the old school meccano of Defenders and Series Land Rovers.

i had to split box and engine on my garage floor last week using a prybar ,:D

Mine came apart easily enough, its never that simple putting it back. 😕

Today ive mostly been removing a stupid solex auto enrichment device ( choke) from a set of su carbs and replacing it with a manual choke. Sice the solex was doing what its renoind for and just flooding engine

Involving a full rebuild of the carbs as the castings and jets are different- manual chokes off an 85bhp defender engine and the solex was on a 145 disco v8

Just about fired first try as well if some sod hadnt left the interior lights on all day !

Battery on charge.

If this works its going in me 90 now i have a gear box in the correct shape 🙂

Looking forward to lots of pics and details just like the fallen tree thread.

Looking forward to lots of pics and details just like the fallen tree thread.

I'm hoping it will be a little less hair raising.

I need it fixed to collect a new stove, the delivery truck can't get up the drive and I dont think the mothership can tow a fouteen foot Ifor Williams trailer.

a v8 engine and lt85 with transfer box and manifolds is 6ft 3 long ~ you can get one into a peugeot partner van with care. sits on its bump stops mind

First time I read that I though you'd actually installed the engine in in the van 😯

Not quite although 3.0 v6 engine box and rear axel from 406 coupe is tempting !!!

If this works its going in me 90 now i have a gear box in the correct shape

Be sure to post some pics of the build.

On early Range Rovers you could take out the transmission tunnel which helps a lot

Just did one on my Fourtrak.
It alined fine with the gearbox but took a huge amount of swearing to get it to sit down properly into it.
We had a BIG hammer and bent a large breaking bar. It's in now.
Left the mounts in and only dropped the engine once. Luckily we were out of the way when the seatbelt snapped holding the engine to the crane :Oo

Well good news is - battery charged . Manual choke pulled out

Turned the key and it fired up straight up!

Although only on 1 or 2 cylinders :/

Tomorrow ill be going through the ignition assembly as it was running fine 3 months ago 🙂
Moneys on coroded plugs and a damp dizzy

Just had to wind it ober for ages with the solex and no chance of it starting in the cold on that set up.

Rough as **** timbur - i like it .

Makes me getting engine outthe Van seem normal .

Peugeot partner loaded with a forklift

At my end - engine crane ran out of height once the van un weighted .

Picked up engine high as we could - threw in a bunch of bricks and fire wood to weigh van down and then drove the van out from under the engine 🙂

Might sound daft but check that the studs/pegs on the bell-housing are matched to the newer engine...

Nice! We had a crane on the back of a flat bed truch. You should have seen the suspension sag with the Pig Iron Fourtrak engine hanging off the back corner.
Anyway, Fourtrak are made for abuse. No point treating them nice as they'll get use to it!
My engine started before we had the rad back on. It ran like a dream. There's a YouTube video of someone trying to kill one by running it dry and throwing stones in the air intake apparently.

The Discovery engine is damn heavy too. I lifted it out of the shed suspended from the front of the Fergie MIL loader. Even with the tyres pumped up to the max, I could barely turn the steering wheel.

Tomorrow ill be going through the ignition assembly as it was running fine 3 months ago
Moneys on coroded plugs and a damp dizzy

I'd check the distributor cap contacts. On the the RR they always corrode cutting the spark if left unused for a spell.

200k and another engine....should have got a jap 4*4

200k and another engine....should have got a jap 4*4

+1, the Shogun the Disco replaced still pulled like a train, used no oil or coolant. Shame the chassis wasnt so durable.

This Discovery has never been welded, but the engine is toast. I'd sooner replace the engine than weld.

I'm sure I got my moneys worth out of it though. 👿

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The scrapyard still gave me £500 for it. 😀

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Why do people still buy Landrovers?
They're slow, uneconomical, handle badly, unreliable and leaky.

At least the Diisco is comfortable.

But I did grin all the way home in my new Defender last night.

Why do people still buy Landrovers?
They're slow, uneconomical, handle badly, unreliable and leaky.

At least the Diisco is comfortable.

For my needs, a cheap, rugged DIY fixable 4x4 that can tow a trailer off road, a Discovery fits the bill well. I would perhaps have bought a 90, but they are just too expensive for whay you get. I ran a Series IIA for years, and loved it's character, coil sprung Land Rovers are a step up, but not a quantum leap in terms of refinement.

I've just replaced my Disco after 10 years of working my way 'up' to it, from S3 airportable through 90, RRC v8 etc...
I bought a VW T5 which is a different kind of money pit. I love the VW but I miss having a Landy. Luckily my boss collects them in military form so I get to scratch the itch fairly regularly.
May have to get my arse in gear this winter and sort the rally car out; get that sold and buy another Series. Hmm.... Anyone want a stage prepped Suzuki Swift?

We sold our 1986 RAF 90, we miss it dreadfully and will have another one, one day.

Why do people still buy Landrovers?
They're slow, uneconomical, handle badly, unreliable and leaky.

At least the Diisco is comfortable.

Situation Reoprt.

My brother came over this afternoon and gave me a hand to get the engine back in. I took off the engine mounts and propped up gear box. It took a couple of goes to get the engine level for the bell housing bolts to line up. It went together well, but it's definatley a two man job. A second time would be much easier. So I just need to connect everything back up and fingers crossed all should be good. 🙂

Well ive not had so much luck,.,,,.

Dizzy is looking tasty but i cleaned it up anyhoo as are leads - resistance is good

Plugs are sooted to **** so i cleaned them up. - ive got a spark when i earth each plug to ground and turn the key

Despite a healthy flow from my facet pump when its disconected hook it up and i dont get much if any into the carb.- everthing up to the carb is clear and he carbs visually clear.

Definantly think its a fueling issue - and to be sure theres fuel in it emptied another jerry can in the tank of fresh fuel.

How annoying . Was running on a couple cylinders last night and now none 🙂

Had to leave it and crack on with diy or mrs t-r would be at me for "wasting" another day.

Where are all the pics????

suport nose of gbox
leave mounts loose
ensure pegs and studs match up between bell housing and engine.
remove slave cylinder.
lower engine and slide in till you have about a inch and a half gap between bellhousing and engine,make sure its all straight then with gbox in gear slowly turn engine over gbox input splines should line up with clutch and itl all slide together easily.

failing this loose temper hit things with hammers and bits of wood swear cut knuckles swear some more throw toys have cup of tea while someone else just walks past and it goes together.

watch out for breather pipes and starter wires getting pinched when its going back together.

LandRover toolkit would never include any hammer less than 2lb in weight..

Where are all the pics????

Basically they are the same as the OP but in reverse order.

Parkesie, I propped up the tail end on the gearbox, removed the engine mounts completely, I left the clutch slave cylinder in place. I jacked up a rear wheel, put it in gear, then turned the wheel to line up the splines.

No hammers were deployed. Though numerous cups of tea were.

Note to self, do engine swaps in summer not late November, there was frost in the stable yard all day. .

That's everything reconnected and reassembled.

I just need to fill it up with coolant and antifreeze. I will leave it till morning, it's barely been above zero all day.

I hope it snows a lot to make it worthwhile!

I filled the cooling system, bled the injectors and it started first time. Perfect timing as we were hit by an ice storm last night.

It runs more quietly than the old engine and it pulls like a train.

Job satisfaction? Off the scale. 8)

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I love McMoonterworld 😀

Great work, they don't normally start first time 🙂 good spannering

Great work, they don't normally start first time good spannering

It took a couple of turns on the key to bleed the injectors and build up some oil pressure. The engine has been sitting in my shed for at least six months, so it's a relief it started so well.

No nasty noises, smoke, leaks or head gasket issues.

The heater took a while to remove the airlock but its toasty warm now.

I dont do a lot of spannering, I'm largely self taught mostly on home restored projects. My dad had a PhD in Engineering but failed to nurture my latent interest. The Morris was a project he started as a student but left in a hundred boxes. I fixed it up after he ran off with his secretary in my mid twenties. Fixing it up was the perfect antidote to the misery he left at home. I sent him pictures of it. I never received even a nod of approval.

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sharkbait - Member
I love McMoonterworld

Couldn't agree more!

Always enjoy a McMoonter thread!

Good skills McM!

A couple of months in and it's pulling like the proverbial.....

In fact it feels more powerful with a fully laden trailer than without 🙂

I clipped the indicator on a tree and had to duct tape it on and the interior rear view mirror fell off yesterday. You've got to love a Land Rover.

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Is the train just balanced on the logs or are you roping it on? 😉

He's having a tug 'o war with the train!

The other day I managed to do some epic reversing into the coppice. We loaded up what must have been 2.5 tons of logs. The ground had been frozen but the sun was up and a thaw underway. No problem, I've got good mud terrains and a centre diff lock. Grip was good until the trailers wee wheels just couldn't roll over a root. The Land Rover wheels just spun digging a hole.

We were only the the length of the Land Rover and trailer from a better road surface. We tried to tow it with the Ranger's Hi Lux but it just spun out too. Nowt for it but to unload the trailer, get it back on to the road and hand ball all the wood back into the trailer.

We gathered three loads, by end of the day I was toast, after that evening's night ride I was done.

You don't see that part in lifestyle mags with neat baskets of logs beside wood burning stoves.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

You don't see that part in lifestyle mags with neat baskets of logs beside wood burning stoves.

Very true, the old saying about wood warming you 3 times is so right.
Even at minus temps 5 mins in anti-chain-saw trousers and I'm sweating buckets.

Gathering wood can be savage amusement. I looked at a 40ft wind blown larch yesterday,can't get closer than 20 yds so it is all to carry out. One problem just standing looking I sank ankle deep! I was hoping for a keen frost going to have to pick the right time. Even free wood makes you pay in one way or another.

The pic above was from a local country park. The Ranger's do conservation projects there with volunteers and school groups. Yesterday afternoon a school group was scheduled to be there. The Ranger was keen to have them carry wood as it keeps them out of mischief.

I turned up at the allotted time and made a start loading. I'd loaded about half the trailer, before I checked the time. No school group, they'd cancelled. Bummer.

It is hard physical work, but I do enjoy being out there.

Yay the kids were there in force today. I was great seeing a bunch of kids thoroughly enjoying being out in the woods grafting with huge smiles on their faces. I'd have signed up for that class when I was at school. 😀

Good thread, this! I'd missed it first time around, and just read it all the way through, nice work, mcm. I love the Morris, that is a really beautiful car, something to be really proud of. Nice job with the Disco, too. 😀

Is that Lochore Meadows McM ?

Is that Lochore Meadows McM ?

Yes, the kids that were there yesterday came from Inverkeithing.

Blimey - flashbacks ! I'm from D Bay (moved there in 76 when there was very much just fields !) and used to go Scout camps up at Lochore Meadows

Blimey - flashbacks ! I'm from D Bay (moved there in 76 when there was very much just fields !) and used to go Scout camps up at Lochore Meadows

Do they still do the scout camps at fordell firs? I remember going many years ago with the Arbroath troup, then later nearly bought a house in the heart of the forest there.

http://www.fordell-firs.org.uk/

Aye, bigger than ever.

Used to mcmoontan bike in Fordell (see what i did there :wink:) back in the late eighties then loop round to that loch up the back between aberdour and dbay then over the top into the back nr mosmorran then over and back to burntisland. Ahhh memories....

NZCol, those are my local trails I live near the top of your last descent home.

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Do you live in that farm with the bloody dog that bit my arse ? If so i shake my fist at you ! I used to dodge the little ****er all the time, there was a mega rough descent that dropped you out near the top of the Donkey Brae. Used to be some great riding in there. Had an epic collision on the Otterston Loch Rd with a car when my enthusiasm and inability to steer on gravel drifted me into the side of it ! Place has changed a bit since i left though to be fair.

someone should make a telly program about mcmoonter

Do you live in that farm with the bloody dog that bit my arse ?

No I'm further along the hill. That dog has been replaced by the angriest Alsatian you've ever seen. I never linger going past there.