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Trying to replace a rear hub on my car but i can't get the nut on the end of the stub axle off.

It's not corroded or anything, i've sprayed it with WD40, i'm using a very long bar on the wrench and a lot of brute force but it just won't budge,

any tips?

ta


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:07 pm
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Tap it with a hammer so micro-cracks begin to appear? Works more often than it should.


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:09 pm
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Which side? What car?

Check the haynes site for a manual.

They are done up FT. But it may be that depending on the side it may not be anti-clockwise to undo.
Bit like the pedals on your bike.


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:10 pm
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Heat


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:11 pm
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will try the tap,

NSR Alfa GTV no manual

checked the thread and it's a 'normal' one


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:13 pm
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could try soaking in plus gas or another releasing oil

make a reservoir of plasticine/plastic bag/zipppy clips etc etc and soak overnight.

I was told (rightly or wrongly) that when soaking you should tap with a hammer every so often to encourage penetration .....


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:17 pm
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put the nut in a vice and turn the car 😉


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:19 pm
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Longer levers usually work well. As long as it hasn't got a split pin hidden away and you are sure it is a right hand thread.


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:19 pm
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You need a decent breaker bar to get some leverage on it, a normal socket wrench isn't long enough and just putting a tube over it isn't stiff enough. Buy or lend a 24" breaker bar but as Elmo says check you are undoing it the right way.


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:20 pm
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Make sure it doesnt have a locking tab thats been chiseled to stop it undoing.


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:22 pm
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As above, check for locking mechanisms, if it still doesnt work I've had to swing more than my 100kg bodyweight on a 1.5m scaff pole before to get one off. It shouldnt be that hard, but it is at times.


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:23 pm
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If you haven't taken some kind of locking mechanism off then stop what you are doing because there will defo be one there, tab-lock, split pin or something similar. Even the Italians aren't that reckless 😆


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:27 pm
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Make sure you have a replacement nut available - you probably won't be abel to re-use it.


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:27 pm
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Even the Italians aren't that reckless

😆


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:28 pm
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For these big hub nuts, we use a snap-on lever bar with a 6' scaffold tube on the end of it.


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:33 pm
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You've got to treat it like a woman - swisstony 🙂


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:37 pm
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http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-gtv-and-916-spider/72466-rear-wheel-bearing-help-needed.html

they seem pretty tight. Don't know which model you have.


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:37 pm
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thanks all

there's no locking mechanism and it is a normal thread, the problem seems to be that it needs to be tightened to 250 ft lbs so i think i just need more brute force

I haven't got an new nut though!


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 6:49 pm
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borrowed a mates big torque wrench and that made short work of it, job done!


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 8:42 pm
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put the nut in a vice and turn the car

don't forget to put the handbrake on though, or its a waste of time


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 8:45 pm
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"You need a decent breaker bar to get some leverage on it, a normal socket wrench isn't long enough and just putting a tube over it isn't stiff enough. Buy or lend a 24" breaker bar but as Elmo says check you are undoing it the right way."

As Ravey Davey says,I would get the car jacked up as high as possible to aid leverage,Heat gun.and a 1/2 ins Breaker bar usually works,dont use a tourque wrench,you Will **** it!


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 8:52 pm
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Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 8:53 pm
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Had exactly the sae problem trying to undo the stub axle nut on my mitsu. 2' bar and LOTS of pulling on it does the trick. Failing that a scaffold pole works well for extra leverage.
But they are f'ing tight for a reason!


 
Posted : 30/09/2009 8:54 pm