I'm not a monarchist, but nonetheless find it outrageous some of the things people are coming out with on twitter...
https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1567959940349689857
https://twitter.com/Aldanimarki/status/1567861794605043712
https://twitter.com/roun_sa_ville/status/1567853458581032960
Don’t see why flower of Scotland would change
Do we not get to at least have a debate about an all-new national anthem rather than current dirge? Now’s as good a time as any.
Think you'll find it's just a case of king queen
Have you never mourned the death of a musician, sports star or other icon in your life.
God no.
"God no" makes it sound as if mourning the death of a high profile person who you like and admire is incomprehensible to you. Do you generally feel little if any emotions? I can get emotional just watching the news. Although I'm quite comfortable with being like that.
Edit: For the record I was quite emotional when David Bowie died, he represented an important icon in my youth. I just happened to be working in Brixton at the time so I popped round to the impromptu shrine in front of his mural. I found it quite deeply emotional, especially seeing all the other people who were clearly upset.
I don’t understand the mourning being the family. Do people mourn other 96 year olds they have never met or spent any time with? I really don’t get why some people want to stand outside Buck house in the rain. Each to their own I guess
It's quite humbling hearing of all the nations that are lowering flags at half-mast et cetera.
For all that's gone on over the last 6 years, and before, we're still, under our late Queen at least, a nation that the rest of the world takes notice off.
I'm not sure we deserve such reverence.
Why would restaurants be closed?
I don’t understand the mourning being the family. Do people mourn other 96 year olds they have never met or spent any time with? I really don’t get why some people want to stand outside Buck house in the rain. Each to their own I guess
My theory: People enjoy the occasion - getting together and having a good blub. Similarly, you generally seem to see the same people protesting about stuff. The cause is secondary to the scene.
As with several posters above I'm not a monarchist, but....3 additional bank Holidays though...... you gotta respect that. 🙂
God no
Weird turn of phrase for someone who's so vocal about their anti religion stance
Have they mentioned how she died yet?
Loss of breath
It'll be interesting how Scotland's view of the monarchy develops. The Queen did great work in keeping Scots on board, but I wonder if having the past Prince of Wales as King will speed up the annexation of Scotland and the breakup of our nation...
National mourning guidance is expected to be published by the government shortly.
That’s from an actual news source. It’s like reading a script from Brass Eye
but I wonder if having the past Prince of Wales as King
You know he isn't actually Welsh, yes?
Strange one for me, Surprisingly sad TBH she seemed like a good egg to me, despite being not too fussed for the Monarchy. RIP Liz.
Think Spotify will be getting a hammering at work tomorrow though, It'll be wall to wall Adele on the radio.
PS, Bit weird outside Buckingham Palace on the news right now, not sure why you'd what to stand around in the pissing rain at this hour?! Especially the one waving to the cameras/taking selfies ect..odd.
For all that’s gone on over the last 6 years, and before, we’re still, under our late Queen at least, a nation that the rest of the world takes notice off.
No one takes any notice of this small irtelevant country other than to laugh or pity us
As for mourning people i dont know? Of course not. Its just irrelevant to me. I have no emotion about her death bar a bit of irritation at rhe sycophatic drivel and mass hysteria
Do people mourn other 96 year olds they have never met or spent any time with?
People are often sad at the passing of someone they admired or respected. I don't think this stops being the case because they were old.
No one takes any notice of this small irrelevant country other than to laugh or pity us
Well what do you expect when your contribution to world cuisine is the deep-fried Mars Bar?
I have no emotion about her death bar a bit of irritation at rhe sycophatic drivel and mass hysteria
Surely you would be less irritated if you didn't click on threads like this one?
People are often sad at the passing of someone they admired or respected. I don’t think this stops being the case because they were old.
People are generally admired/respected for things they've done. Not just for being an aristocrat.
Well what do you expect when your contribution to world cuisine is the deep-fried Mars Bar?
LOL!
People are generally admired/respected for things they’ve done. Not just for being an aristocrat.
In shocking news, other people may feel differently.
I'm far from a flag waving, cap doffing arch royalist but I'd admit to feeling more a sense of mourning at the Queen's passing than that of my grandmother recently at the same age.
I think I need some therapy, that's not quite right, is it?
No one takes any notice of this small irtelevant country other than to laugh or pity us
I'm the last person to indulge in flag waving jingoism but that's not even remotely true.
Anyway. It's good that people who don't care have taken the time to tell us that they don't care.
Do people mourn other 96 year olds they have never met or spent any time with?
I think most people know her indirectly/directly as the Queen so a sense of loss is normal especially when she was seen as the stability of all the world events surrounding them.
Well, this thread's improved since the cans were opened. Cheers lads!
When Nelson Mandela died I was all like "WTF already get over it already like dude" too
Well, this thread’s improved since the cans were opened. Cheers lads!
When Nelson Mandela died I was all like “WTF already get over it already like dude” too
It gets better when they're off their meds as well.
I am not even remotely a monarchist (or a republican) but am surprised at how I've been feeling this evening. I worked like a dog through Covid despite feeling at the time (and still do) it was a load of hysterical bollox. The one time I wobbled was watching her first televised speech in the early days of the pandemic - we will meet again, the nods to duty and sacrifice from earlier generations, it just set me off. I blubbed like a five year old, and get emotional thinking about it even now. Good speech, whoever wrote it.
I met Charles once in my stravaiging days, just him and me on the Jock's Road (plus the sniper watching us from a hilltop). Chatted for 15 minutes like you'd do with anyone you met in the hills, then went our separate ways (he was off to do a bit of painting). Seemed okay to me.
I was sad when Barry White died.
Molgrips. Thats precisely the reaction i have seen repeatedly. No one gives too hoots about the uk
I'll be sad when Joe Cocker dies.
Molgrips. Thats precisely the reaction i have seen repeatedly. No one gives too hoots about the uk
Flags at half mast at the White House, and even Vladimir Putin, chief antagonist in a proxy war the West is fighting against him, appears to have left a respectful tribute.
You need to read the room if nothing else...
I’ll be sad when Joe Cocker dies.
Me too, but mainly because I'm worried what we'd replace him with. He's such a staple of STW.
Ten pages in and nobody has blamed Brexit.
No one gives too hoots about the uk
Well quite a lot if people in the UK do, including a majority in Scotland according to the last referendum. Despite our politicians best efforts we do still have some respect across the world evidenced by the number of world leaders paying tributes.
You need to read the room if nothing else…
Doesn't apply to STW royalty, You must be new here.
Can we crowdfund Nicholas Witchell's exorcism to drive out his inner necromancer?
He's been waiting for this day for millennia
Ten pages in and nobody has blamed Brexit.
The Queen died shortly after meeting Liz Truss, who wouldn't have been PM without Brexit.
Makes you think.
Why would restaurants be closed?
Because it's the Queen's funeral. Which will be a national day of mourning. Which although not formally a bank holiday, businesses, shops, etc., may choose to close and other events will be cancelled.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/08/queen-dead-will-schools-workplaces-and-shops-close-15640748/
If people want to mourn that's fine, i'll leave them to it, but why does it have to be forced on the rest of us. I doubt there's many now that aren't aware and they all know where BBC1 is, why does it have to be on all the others as well? And the one that isn't showing it is off the air.
Do you generally feel little if any emotions? I can get emotional just watching the news.
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Do people mourn other 96 year olds they have never met or spent any time with?
I get emotional watching Repair Shop for chrissakes. I cry like a five-year old with a skinned knee.
The whole thing about "someone you didn't know" - celebrities etc - is kinda flawed. They didn't know you, sure, but absolutely no-one was watching the news today or is reading this thread and going "thequeen who?" We may not know much of her private life but the Queen probably more than anyone else in the country has had her public life so very well documented.
You've seriously, genuinely never been upset when someone famous passes, a favourite actor or musician maybe? I was both shocked and gutted when Taylor Hawkins died recently; sure I wasn't "in mourning" because, well, I didn't know him, but he was amazing to watch and to listen to, now he's gone and that makes me a little sad.
How do you react when someone in 'real life' tells you that they've lost someone that you've never met? There's been a few threads on STW over the years, I won't mention names but we all know who they are. Do you offer condolences do do you leap onto them to post "well, I didn't know her so I don't care"?
Plenty of people don't like the monarchy, and that's both wholly understandable and absolutely fine. But having a whine about it whilst her corpse is still warm is pretty ****ing crass. However privileged they may be, a family including young children has just lost their mother / grandmother / great-grandmother. Give it a couple of weeks at least.
Anyway. It’s good that people who don’t care have taken the time to tell us that they don’t care.
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Surely you would be less irritated if you didn’t click on threads like this one?
Well said. This I don't get, and it's a semi-regular occurrence both on STW and the wider Internet. You're not interested in something, fine. Intentionally opening a thread that you're not interested in, reading it, then taking time to compose a post telling everyone else how disinterested you are... 🤷♂️ that's just plain weird.
@sweepy Are you not old enough to remember Diana? Be glad you have YouTube
This thread has been started in respect of a woman that, whether you liked the monarchy or not, has served her country, was a mother, grand mother, and great grandmother.
Yet the body is barely cold and we have the usual suspects trying to hijack the thread. If you didn’t like her or don’t care she’s died don’t post on the thread, let alone post repeatedly. The clue is in the thread title
I find it deeply unpleasant tbh. Maybe just for once if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all and let those that do care show their respects
Edit, cougar I hadn’t read your post before I posted mine!
How do you react when someone in ‘real life’ tells you that they’ve lost someone that you’ve never met?
He reads aloud from his book of Jacob Rees-Mogg quotes.
