I can't believe that this thread was only started 5 days ago.
It feels like weeks since Mrs Windsor died 😕
Her job is to stop the kind of society I want to see
I thought that was the government's job - and we can get rid of that if we want to.
dunno, perhaps her much vaunted sense of humour and the thought of thousands of subjects paying respect to a coffin filled with spuds ?
You think she's watching it all on the telly somewhere having a laugh whilst smoking a cigar and her feet up?
yeah hanging out with Elvis and Co
Looking forward to Private Eye today.
Another week I think.
You think she’s watching it all on the telly somewhere having a laugh whilst smoking a cigar and her feet up?
Oddly enough reading the perfect king by Ian Mortimer about Edward III. He really, really buys into the claim that Edward II wasnt actually bumped off but instead sent into quiet exile instead with some servants corpse getting the state funeral instead.
Another week I think.
Bugger! Just realised I didn't get my copy delivered last week when I was away.
It feels like weeks since Mrs Windsor died 😕
Perhaps now would be a good time for Charles to reinstate the Saxe Coburg Gotha moniker?
Oops, perhaps he has more pressing issues...
https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1570029555506909184
I think its fair to say that investigation will find itself on the furthest back of the back burners.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62897488
Charley is letting a lot of his staff go .... It's in their best interests
...or they just aren't needed anymore?
You know, what with him moving houses and changing jobs.
Empty house, and no one else taking on that job...?
Kate and Wills won't be moving in to Clarence House - they've only just moved to a smaller house and simpler lifestyle (losing some of their staff in the process).
And someones going to lose out somewhere. I heard that the Queen's Dresser and Shoe Breaker-in (not shitting you!), are losing their jobs.
...and King Charlie III is cutting the bills already. He could have waited a while though.
So, an empty house...?
No one taking on the King's previous roles...?
...doesn't need much staff.
It's not like they're going to flog it off for flats.
You're not really explaining why the staff are no longer needed... is the house going to be mothballed? Do his roles previous to being made King not still need doing, and supporting?
Because he now has the Buck House staff to do the work. The Clarence House staff aren’t going to be utilised. I notice that the sort of people complaining about these folks being made redundant are also the sort to whinge about the cost of the monarchy.
I agree it is pretty tasteless to act like this immediately, but I don’t disagree with the principle that the cost of the monarchy needs to be reigned* in.
*IGMC
See that big house at the end of The Mall - it's full of staff already. Clarence House is bound to be scaled down, who else is going to live there? And I'm sure he'll take some staff with him.
I don't have detailed answers as I don't work for HRH HR Department. But no business keeps staff in roles that are no longer required.
Watching the 'show' whilst working, and it is a good view in to our past and history.
I am still not convinced shes in that box though
He could have waited a while though.
It is understood legal advice taken by the household required the information to be shared with staff at the earliest opportunity, despite efforts to delay until after the Queen's funeral.
it is a good view in to our past and history.
Pretty impressive and that drummer earned his dinner!
I am still not convinced shes in that box though
Well, if it came to it, there's plenty of places she could hide...
Buckingham Palace, London
Clarence House, London
Kensington Palace, London
Wren House, Kensington Palace, London
St. James's Palace, London
Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire
Palace of Holyroodhouse, Edinburgh
Hillsborough Castle, County Down, Northern Ireland
The Royal Lodge, Windsor, Berkshire
Bagshot Park, Surrey
Thatched House Lodge, Richmond, London
Barnwell Manor, Barnwell, Northamptonshire
Gatcombe Park, Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire
Sandringham House, Norfolk
Balmoral Castle, Aberdeenshire
Craigowan Lodge, Balmoral, Aberdeenshire
Delnadamph Lodge, Balmoral, Aberdeenshire
Highgrove House, Gloucestershire
Birkhall House, Balmoral, Aberdeenshire
Llwynywormwood, Myddfai, Llandovery, Carmarthenshire
Tamarisk, Isles of Scilly
Castle of Mey, Thurso, Caithness
Most of em look fairly comfortable n all...
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/g22573559/royal-family-residences-homes-properties
Thinking of similar National Trust properties, how many staff does it take to keep them all spick n span; e.g. make sure the heating is serviced and working to keep the damp out, keep an eye out for nesting rodents, keep the gardens in good order and sweep away cobwebs to ensure sufficient reverence for Royal visits etc?
EDIT: Assuming they're left empty that is; do we really know what goes on there?
who else is going to live there?
So, again... is the house going to be empty then? Mothballed? Put into new use?
Who takes on the roles that the King must now leave behind, and who supports them?
Does the Royal family now "do less" and require fewer staff? Or do the roles get shuffled, and the staff likewise?
So, again… is the house going to be empty then? Mothballed? Put into new use?
...I'll just pop Charley-boy a text - he's not that busy this afto. Will get back to you! 🤦♂️
What a grotesque and absurd spectacle.
A state cult that promotes the worship of aristocracy.
Thing is, everyone* loved Liz, it seems like Charles is getting a lot of complaints already.
This could have significant implications for the mood of the nation, and that mood can have implications for other things. It'll be an interesting decade or so. However it was up there ^^^ made the point earlier.
* yeah yeah, I know, me neither but you know what I mean.
…I’ll just pop Charley-boy a text
Apologies, I thought you were taking on the role of explaining the redundancy announcements to us for some reason.
what a fantastic spectacle.
the chance for people who loved and liked the queen for what ever reason, getting a chance to pay their last respects to the queen.
a woman who spent the whole of her life putting other people before her. a woman who could not answer back or argue with her attackers and critics. in life or in death.
a woman more important than any other member of royalty ever.
who's importance is not only recognised in her own country, but by the whole world.
a truly majestic woman.
What a grotesque and absurd spectacle.
I struggle to see why people watch stuff on TV that they don't agree with - it's almost as if you want to make yourself angry just so you can moan about it on the internets 🤷🏻♂️
Agree with all that Ton.
Lots of attention paid to people grieving. Which is understandable.
But I've seen no mention of the potential impact on those who don't support the monarchy. And that includes the majority of young people (two-thirds of those under 24).
What are the health and psychological implications of being bombarded for such an extended period with this stuff?
People who are facing lots of issues - inflation, rent, jobs, housing etc who are being given absolutely no voice or platform in the mainstream media.
What does that do to people?
a woman more important than any other member of royalty ever.
Really? I think Henry viii, William the Conqueror, King Alfred and Boudicca, picking a few of the top of my head would have a better claim.
This could have significant implications for the mood of the nation
The changing of the monarch has always had significant implications. You can go all the way back to the bickering that went on when **** took the throne and agreed after much grumbling to share it with Edmund (not Blackadder).
In other news, on the plane back from Canada was chatting to a Canadian woman and her husband who'd come over just to stand in the procession and watch the coffin go past, she struggled to get a hotel room, apparently everywhere is booked.
Didn't realise that would star out: **** is the bloke who tried to stop the tide...
And that includes the majority of young people (two-thirds of those under 24).
What are the health and psychological implications of being bombarded for such an extended period with this stuff?
People who are facing lots of issues – inflation, rent, jobs, housing etc who are being given absolutely no voice or platform in the mainstream media.What does that do to people?
They think they've got it tough. They should try being the Queen, grafting all those years for other people without a thought for herself.
Really? I think Henry viii, William the Conqueror, King Alfred and Boudicca, picking a few of the top of my head would have a better claim
Why limit yourself to Jolly Old England?
Ramses ii.
The Kangxi Emperor.
Peter the Great.
A woman who spent the whole of her life putting other people before her
🤣
Just checking in from a sultry, humid Marseille. Where quite literally nobody, even the few Brits we’ve encountered, gives a flying **** about the Queen, or the monarchy. The French and Germans just think it’s absurd that Britain still clings into such an antiquated anachronism. My wife is just happy she’ll now get an extra bank holiday off, meaning she’s actually taken less leave than before we left. 😀
Vive la Republique!
And that includes the majority of young people (two-thirds of those under 24).
I have 3 daughters aged 20 and 22 - they all love the Monarchy.
What are the health and psychological implications of being bombarded for such an extended period with this stuff?
Possibly very little as not many <24's watch live TV - particuarly the news.
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Some hugely touching tributes to such a selfless woman...
https://twitter.com/GrieveWatch/status/1570067869664440320
(errr, not that kind of touching 😳)
But I’ve seen no mention of the potential impact on those who don’t support the monarchy. And that includes the majority of young people (two-thirds of those under 24).
But only 1/3 of those under 24 actually oppose the monarchy. The other third don't know. I really don't know why there is this attitude on here of 'now is the time to discuss the future of the monarchy'. Well OK, discuss away. Maybe even have a vote, but given in the population as a whole the pro-monarchists outnumber the antis by about three to one, what exactly do you think is going to happen? Whinge as much as you like, it ain't changing in the foreseeable future.
A state cult that promotes the worship of aristocracy.
I think thats a very overdramatic way of describing the situation in this country.
As I seem to keep saying this week, if you think that getting rid of the monarchy, for all their faults, will solve any of the problems in this country then you are as gullible as all those who thought the same about the EU - and its the same people creating the lies and smokescreens that are conning you.
To all those royalists who appeared to be triggered by any whiff of dissent; do you genuinely feel a sense of loss? Does the death of Elizabeth leave you questioning your own sense of identity? Much is being said about such, including g on this thread, so I’m wondering if it is a fear of the ‘unknown’ without a stable constant as represented by the Queen, that is unsettling some people? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this.
a woman who spent the whole of her life putting other people before her
Lol no, I think you need to read up on some of the actual heroes of the last 96 years.
and its the same people creating the lies and smokescreens that are conning you.
So Boris was a republican all along? The plot thickens... 🤔
I think his valet(Toothpaste squeezer and bum wiper) will still be in employment
I really don’t know why there is this attitude on here of ‘now is the time to discuss the future of the monarchy’.
Try reading some of the numerous posts regarding such then. The fact is, that the death of Elizabeth has indeed sparked countless debates and arguments, and it appears this is actually quite possibly the very best time to be having such discussions. I certainly don’t think those who want to discuss how to move closer towards actual genuine democracy should have to wait until some others deem it an ‘appropriate’ time. Because we might well be waiting forever…
