150,000 people die in road accidents in India each year. Are you sufficiently interested to read about that in the news each day?
blindly proclaiming and rejoicing that someone new is now “reigning over us”
You need to change your news sources fella. The only person that I am aware who is currently rejoicing is Nigel Farage:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/1567931141730041862
You would have thought that Farage might have shown a little more respect for Her Majesty and the nation's sombre mood.
I’m listening and watching the BBC coverage. They are most definitely celebrating the new King’s accession and using the phrase “reigning over us”, with zero discussion about whether he should.
Anyway… something less serious…
If you want to read or hear about other stuff then there’s this wonderful thing called the Internet. Open your browser of choice and type a description of the thing you want to read about. Tis like magic!
The only place I’ve read anything about the Queen is this thread.
using the phrase “reigning over us”
Are you sure you haven't misheard and that they weren't in fact talking about the weather we've been having the last few days?
Anyway what's ITV's and other broadcasters position on the change of monarch? Or do you think that the BBC should be stepping out of line because that is what people want and expect?
'and we go over live now to the mall where some men with very shiny helmets are riding horses slowly in double file. Now John that reminds me that the Queen liked horses didn't she...,
Yes she did John, horses were very much a part of her daily life..'
Jeremy Corbyn notable by his absence at this ridiculous gathering of the British establishment. The one member of the privy council who could truly be described as a man of the people and they couldn’t bring themselves to invite him.
Jesus even the local news is just saturated with it. Want to know what is going on locally in your area here is the kings first speech. BBC really doing their duty there.
Mods, you'd be as well shutting this thread down
"Edit: Since this is a direct attack on the BBC is there evidence that ITV is providing a better example? Genuine question, I’m not currently watching much telly."
From what I've seen ITV News has been better, but that's been the case for a few years now.
@dazh - so what? Corbyn is irrelevant. The monarchy is an anachronism. Most people don't care
Would he have turned up anyway if he was in one of his Pissy Corbyn moods?
on a weekend I tend to follow the football.
Not this weekend.
Well, perhaps they feel that this is not the time for these discussions
When is then? I would have thought the moments after the death of a monarch were the perfect time to discuss such matters! If not now, when?
150,000 people die in road accidents in India each year. Are you sufficiently interested to read about that in the news each day?
Yes. Because I think such issues are of far more importance than countless accounts of 'the queen came to our village and smiled' type stuff. I want to learn about the world in which I live, to become better informed and more enlightened. The BBC has a duty, awarded by its Public Service Broadcasting charter, to 'inform, educate and entertain', and quite frankly, I see it doing very little of the first two things these days.
Fun to read the BBC's rules on impartiality:
"We must be inclusive, considering the broad perspective and ensuring that the existence of a range of views is appropriately reflected."
"We are committed to reflecting a wide range of subject matter and perspectives across our output as a whole and over an appropriate timeframe so that no significant strand of thought is under-represented or omitted."
"We must always scrutinise arguments, question consensus and hold power to account with consistency and due impartiality."
From what I’ve seen ITV News has been better, but that’s been the case for a few years now.
Well there's your answer. Sorted.
I commented earlier that the Tv's gone all North Korea so feel some of the pain that others are experiencing.
However, whatever your position, it's a form of entertainment that has gone on for a thousand years and is bigger than television, (which has been only been around for about 7O).
Mmm I can smell an afternoon of sedition in the air.
Mods, you’d be as well shutting this thread down
Why?
It is emtertainment, the coverage is not only in the UK, I just flicked through 8 channels showing QE2 tributes, in Germany.
and please don't start with the 'they are Germans' waffle.
Can we change Ernie's name to Ernie equilibrium. Always trying to find the balance. 😆
I know they need to play sombre music on the radio just now but I have turned it on twice and both times it was playing Dido, there is just no need for that
Elbows. Yeah I done that yesterday. Looking through all the other news channels. It's worldwide. Least in the English speaking channels. I watched a film instead. 😆
Mods, you’d be as well shutting this thread down
Why?
About to ask the exact same thing. I’m just seeing a friendly debate with a bit of humour. Some nasty shit a few pages back, but I think that’s gone. If you’re easily upset or offended then I’d suggest not being online. This place is like the middle class suburb of the Internet. Quite quaint and generally inoffensive. Very strange request of the mods.
I still think a separate thread would have been better but hey ho. Here we are. 😆
You can pay your respects to someone who has recently died who performed well in a role for all our lifetimes, without then also blindly proclaiming and rejoicing that someone new is now “reigning over us” without a even a glimmer of reflection or discussion about whether we should accept that or change things.
You may be able to, not me. I also think you have completely missed the point of Royalty.
I still think a separate thread would have been better but hey ho. Here we are
One for the sycophants, and one for the seditionists? But then you just get two echo chambers and no debate. 🤔
They should stick all the tv coverage onto one channel and call it Mourn Hub
They should stick all the tv coverage onto one channel and call it Mourn Hub
That would be a very challenging ****
Ah I found it ok
Didn't you get the memo, everything is on hold so there is nothing else to report.
Except of course it isnt, its not really a hardship to avoid the news for a week is it. Not having extensive coverage if other events won't kill you. There's still plenty of other stuff on the BBC News website.
Anyway this isn't limited for the Queen's death, the news does this every time there's a big event. Stop moaning and get on with your lives.
One way to avoid it is to head to Ireland for the week which I’ve done. Very little mention on my ride this morning and 2nd or third story in the news.
But I grew up in Britain so hard to ignore.
As a veggie I missed out on the legal Swan eating window
Stop moaning and get on with your lives
So; people should just suspend caring about what happens in the rest of the world, just because some other people say so? Hmm. A tad dictatorial wouldn't you say? What happens to free speech? What would your response be to someone telling you to 'stop mourning and get on with your life'?
Mourn Hub
This deserves greater coverage.
I think the monarchy has become a weakness of the British state.
As can be seen at the moment, the BBC plays a major role in maintaining support.
But that hold on people's attention is draining away - particularly for anyone under 50.
It's happening slowly and there are peaks and troughs but it's proving increasingly hard to maintain.
It's difficult at the best of times because presenting an aristocratic family as the symbol of a democratic nation is inherently strange and illogical.
I think the TV coverage shows this struggle. It feels desperate and increasingly out of sync with the views and attitudes of the public. It's pedalling harder and harder. And achieving less and less.
As can be seen at the moment, the BBC plays a major role in maintaining support.
So what about Sky, ITV & Channel 4. They are all pretty much doing the same thing.
So what about Sky, ITV & Channel 4. They are all pretty much doing the same thing.
True but think the role of the BBC is slightly different. It's traditionally where people have gone for big occasions - the state channel. Always had a much larger audience share than any competitors.
So what about Sky, ITV & Channel 4. They are all pretty much doing the same thing.
They have to - this is another of those cultural games that you can't win. Like poppy-wearing.
Nice to see the lovely Penny commanding the kingly scene.
It feels desperate and increasingly out of sync with the views and attitudes of the public. It’s pedalling harder and harder. And achieving less and less.
Is pretty much a spot-on assessment and summary, I'd say.
I'd love to know how many people are actually still watching this day after day.
I’d be interested to know the cost of it all!
Bread and circuses
I'm ambivalent about the media coverage but for those who think it's overly reverential and sycophantic...don't look at CNN.
They should stick all the tv coverage onto one channel and call it Mourn Hub
That would be a very challenging ****
Daily Mail readers maybe?
Daily Mail readers maybe?
can't remember the last time I read a newspaper. Never bought one either.
