And again another thread dissolves into incessant bickering.
It's tedious. Folk on here would argue that black is white.
As @cougar said if your not interested why bother to come read 11 pages and then post a reply.
Regardless of if your bothered or not it's a bloody big bit of history that's just occurred.
Your best off back on either the liz or kier threads
if your not interested why bother to come read 11 pages and then post a reply.
Because we need constant reminders of how edgy they are
Do you generally feel little if any emotions? I can get emotional just watching the news
I mourned and cried when my mum died and my dogs. I still cry every so often when I think of my mum. I have no connection to the queen, the royal family or anyone else I don’t actually know. It is almost sycophantic the way people act for people they don’t know just because they are well known. It’s very weird.
Or varied opinions as opposed to an echo chamber. One of the reasons I frequent this place.
I appreciate the range of opinions on all subjects on here. How those opinions are expressed can be a little annoying at times, but it makes me think about my own opinion and look for facts probably more than I would.
There's a certain delicious irony in the intolerance of other people's intolerance at times.
I must admit after last seeing this thread at 11pm I expected to wake up to it being closed. It’s great to have differing opinions. I have found some of the stoic challenges from several people to emotion, and hypocritical posting confusing to the point that I can’t make out whether people really are that distasteful or are deliberately spoiling for an argument.
Whatever happened to not playing the man?
Anyway, looks like details are coming together and we are now at maybe 12 days of mourning with a National Day of Mourning on Monday 19th.
And again another thread dissolves into incessant bickering.
Differing opinions, people are allowed to have them and discuss them, it looks to me (having admittedly not read all the thread) that people are trying quite hard to be respectful of these opinions
It is almost sycophantic the way people act for people they don’t know just because they are well known. It’s very weird.
See, I think it's weird to have no kind of emotional response whatsoever to the death of someone you respected or admired. It's almost sociopathic.
At the other extreme, I still find the mass incontinence over the death of Diana to be utterly baffling.
"what happens next after the queen's death" is most read article on BBC website, make of that what you will..
See, I think it’s weird to have no kind of emotional response whatsoever to the death of someone you respected or admired.
...and even Joe Cocker's going to go one sad day.
“what happens next after the queen’s death” is most read article on BBC website, make of that what you will..
People are just trying to work out when we get a day off, and also when the tv will go back to normal
You’ve seriously, genuinely never been upset when someone famous passes, a favourite actor or musician maybe?
Got to say I’m the same. While I’ve thought, that’s rather sad, that is about it.
It is almost sycophantic the way people act for people they don’t know just because they are well known. It’s very weird.
I doubt anyone here is sat in a black veil, surrounded by candles, curtains drawn and wailing at a portrait of the Queen. They've just expressed their sadness that a figure they've known all their lives has passed. There's a big difference.
Me - I was sad last night. Today I'm off for a long weekend on the Skegvegas coast eating, drinking and having a laugh with friends.
I am pretty indifferent to the news.
A very privileged person lived to 96 and passed away in a luxurious home surrounded by her family and the best medical care available. Not a bad way to go.
I am a republican and hope that this event may allow us to reassess the monarchy's role in the UK. But it won't. We will carry on with this medieval, religious cult. A cult which recently baled out one of it's key members with a £12million pay out to prevent charges of sexual assault and trafficking.
What is quite funny, is the amount of haters for Charles and Camilla, even among the Daily Heil readers. They do not get that he is now their King and Camilla is Queen Consort. Thems the rules!
What I find truly bizarre, is the complete shutdown of radio and TV, as they all try to out mourn each other.
Today I’m off for a long weekend on the Skegvegas coast eating, drinking and having a laugh with friends.
Thoughts and prayers.
… unless you go to Wainfleet for good beer.
I'll set out my position. I neither admired nor cared for the Queen. She held little to no relevance to me and if I'm honest she had a good innings. Of course I recognise that she was a human being and her family will obviously be upset, I hope her passing was painless and dignified as I would for anyone. I'm not a monster, I won't be celebrating her death but I won't be giving it much thought either.
Right now I'm still coming to terms with the loss of someone who was in my 38 years of life in hell of a lot more of a meaningful way last year. I'm not really sure if this would make a difference or not but as its consuming most of my energy that's what I'm focusing on. I dare say others have similar priorities.
On the Scottish question of "feeling closer to the monarch", whit? Because she died on her estate up in rural Aberdeenshire? No. I seriously doubt it. For most of us Aberdeen is as remote as Windsor or Buckingham Palace, or possibly more so as there is half a chance of visiting London. The only people who will care are the usual people who do either because they want to grieve or because they want a day off work to get pissed with the bunting out.
Because we need constant reminders of how edgy they are
Says the man that brought TJs dead partner into the argument. I'd watch where you're chucking those stones.
Thanks Squirrel, sums up my feelings much better than I could.
You’re not interested in something, fine. Intentionally opening a thread that you’re not interested in, reading it, then taking time to compose a post telling everyone else how disinterested you are… 🤷♂️ that’s just plain weird.
You've missed the point. He's not interested in whether the Queen is dead, but he IS very interested in why other people are interested in whether the queen is dead. Thus he posts on the thread to discuss/comment on it.
Me too, I have sympathy for her family but it doesn’t go as far as me being upset or sad.
This. Historically significant event? Sure. Sad event for the family? Absolutely. Effect on me? None, I never knew the lady. I don't get the public outpourings of grief and sadness - if that's how people feel, then fine, I really just don't understand why. I do wonder if it's going get to Diana-esque levels.
And I've just asked MrsIHN if this makes me unfeeling or lacking empathy and she said "Christ no, you cry watching Bake Off"...
Bloody hell. I was just sat here thinking "I wonder when Simon will be along to make a post that I 100% agree with !"
Just remembered I’ve put a simple ‘Sorry, Closed Today’ sign on my door at the office. Everyone will think I’m in mourning! 🤣🤣
Bloody hell. I was just sat here thinking “I wonder when Simon will be along to make a post that I 100% agree with !”
You cry at Bake Off too? *hugs*
When's the funeral? We're gonna get the day off. Gawd bless Mrs Maj, everyone likes a day off work and the hills will be quiet. Wonder if the schools will be closed. That'll scupper my plans for a hike.
It's odd, when I heard the news I had a lump in my throat for 30 seconds yet I've never known her. I guess perhaps it's more an undeniable metric of the passage of time and change stirring some emotion than a particular personal loss. She's always been the Queen. Always. I'm almost 50 and now.... She's gone. Condolences to get family and close friends.
Jekyll, BBC saying funeral probably 10-11 days time, BH, schools closed.
We’re gonna get the day off
I won’t.
I'm a Royalist. I had the privilege to meet several members of the Royal Family whilst serving in the forces. I'm also proud to be a member of the emergency services so my whole working life has had connections to the Queen.
She will be greatly missed, the royal family brings in tourism, they are linked to charities and they give the UK something to have pride in, unlike the muppets in government.
The Royal family is just that, a family. Who doesn't have the odd ball in theirs? The queen did her duty until the very end. And that was what it was to her, a Duty. To the UK. To all of us. Which is more than any political leader could ever claim.
RIP Ma'am. Your duty is done.
How long do we think/guess that Charles will stay? He's been in waiting all his life and probably wants to do a stint, but he's 73 and probably many people think William is ready and a fresh monarchy with a generational change is needed. Then again plenty say no monarchy is needed.
So that's Monday the 19th then.
Come on, keep the schools open! I need this day to mourn and err spend the day in the countryside.
The funeral's an interesting one actually - I've consciously swerved the coverage of all the major royal things since Diana's funeral. But this one, I dunno, part of me thinks I might/should watch from the historical significance angle.
the royal family brings in tourism,
Absolutely. I mean Paris is devoid of tourists after what the French did to their Royal family.
I think it is good to see different opinions here.
My views are it is always sad when someone dies but I don't have any special feeling on the occasion.
I have sympathy for the family. They live in a privileged yes but very weird bubble. The Queen worked hard but I don't think she was ever a good Mam/Mum/Mother in the sense that most of us had or wanted. I think it will be a difficult process for her kids to go through.
"The Queen worked hard!"Lolz
All the world leaders will have to attend the funeral, London's gonna be a busy place. How soon after do they have the coronation? You'd want it the next day as all the commonwealth leaders would likely attend that too and they'll still be in the country.
Its been interesting reading this because there are viewpoints expressed that are alien to me. Its always good to see differing views. Its one of the things i find valuable on this site.
The Windsor brand has been very well marketed for decades. I'm quite interested as to seeing how this next fortnight goes and as to whether they can cement Charles into the same spot in the country's psyche.
“The Queen worked hard!”Lolz
say what you like about her, she had impeccable PR 😉
Not a chance - Charles is damaged goods to many. He’s not going to attract the same level of attention the Queen did.
How soon after do they have the coronation?
It'll be ages after. It was about a year IIRC between the Queens ascension and coronation.
Not a chance – Charles is damaged goods to many. He’s not going to attract the same level of attention the Queen did.
Maybe I should have said 'start to cement'.
However, he did rather well following Dianna's death, appearing with his wedding ring rather prominent for TV and press appearances. He was definitely the grieving husband not the cheating ex after that.
Not sure it takes much to turn public perception if you have the PR might of the royal family.
What is quite funny, is the amount of haters for Charles and Camilla, even among the Daily Heil readers. They do not get that he is now their King and Camilla is Queen Consort. Thems the rules!
I started wondering if the spivvery and shitbaggery in Westminster will go (even more 🙄) unchecked now, as previously they might at least have felt they had to show some deference to the Queen, if only to keep the DM readers on side. Now it's Charles and Camilla, will the Tories care quite so much?
(I realise my argument is massively undermined by the fact that 'due deference' didn't stop BoJo lying to her, or Theresa May obliging her to meet Trump, but still).
This did result in a dawning comprehension of what the Queen meant to the country, maybe a sort of link back to the sort of Britain a lot of people either think we still are (decent, chivalrous, important) or wish we could be again, even if they misdirect this yearning in strange ways e.g. Brexit etc.
I’m also proud to be a member of the emergency services so my whole working life has had connections to the Queen.
Me too. I don’t see it as a connection to the crown
I once provided medical cover for the Queen though.
Different service to me then drac
https://twitter.com/i/status/1567894552744271872
"She can be a bit cantankerous but she's got a great sense of humour"
How long do we think/guess that Charles will stay?
My gut feeling says that I will see two coronation in this life, whether that's a good or bad sign I don't know.
Three more coronation at best but if they survive it will be forever, there is a dark force looming.
