[Closed] This, however, is the Athletic and Aesthetic (A&A) Thread.....

He's entitled to express it whether you like it or not. And why bother expressing his opinion about the A&A somewhere else. Dissent is great...don't try and stifle it.

mrsflash - thanks! After seeing TH half in the buff I shall be keeping my shirt on whilst mowing the lawn this weekend! Even though I am happily hetro I can appreciate and admire the honed perfection of male athletes (perhaps I spent too long in Greece recently!!), the only thing I would complain vociferously about is someone posting my pasty and flabby pic next to them to reveal my inadequacies.

Rudey, what does expressing your onion mean? Is it rude?

It's like an opinion, but multi-layered.

It is not rude, but it is a Rudeism.

Druidh is an onion.

Rather the reaching gender equality society is disavowing masculinity in all its form and cultivating a homogenous female oriented society

you say that as if it were a bad thing. I feel if men were less inclined to go throwing their weight around and trampling over the sensitivities (or shredded corpses) of others we might all have a happier time of it! However I think you are delusional about this.

It's like an opinion, but multi-layered.

and when examined too closely it makes you cry 🙁

an unidentified example of "totty":

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He's entitled to express it whether you like it or not. And why bother expressing his opinion about the A&A somewhere else.

Why do so many threads descend into "rights" and "entitlements"? It's my "entitlement" to ask (politely might I add) that at least one post on STW is "a bit of fun" without having to trawl through a load of PC drivel. Put that on another thread that I can avoid on this nice sunny Friday.

...or is this just a troll that is luring me steadily under the bridge?

It's my "entitlement" to ask (politely might I add) that at least one post on STW is "a bit of fun" without having to trawl through a load of PC drivel

It is indeed, but, old chap, you have two hopes...

Trust me SFB this is not delusional thinking (a fixed unshakable belief) but an insidious reality, I fully agree that some of the extremes of masculinity need curbing and controlling, and that this should be done through social and cultural structures, and that gender equality is the aspiration. However, scrutiny of the position of male figures in particular in advertising, but media in general (you need go no further then Loose Women) and the raise in traditionally female pathologies such as body dismorphy and eating disorders, to see this playing out

Should be in the rules, no posting in this thread without a pic. It's getting very boring.
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love you too!

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BadlyWiredDog - Member

Ladies Please love me I'm so new man and offended by this thread PLEASE LOVE ME.. PLEASE!!! I will never ever say anything which may be deemed even the slightest bit offensive to anyone ever I promise.

I don't have a problem with you disagreeing with me, that's life and the fact that I'm right and you're wrong is neither here nor there. But why the juvenile name-calling?

Who mentioned your name? I didn't call you anything, I poked fun at the P.C. mentality of some posts. Which, is different to name calling, as this by definition involves the calling of a name!

And thanks for proving my point about women posting stuff to fit in to the laddish culture here: 'Hats off to Mrs Flash' indeed. Did you mean 'hats'?

No I meant 'thumbs up' which is exactly what I posted. I didn't mention Hats anywhwere.

sasha cohen. ice skate doer.
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Sascha Baron-Cohen; erm, Kazhak wrestlist?

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Am I the only person who has noticed the unfortunate resemblance to the letter "i" struck by the lovely recently sold and extremely talented Footballer near the top of this thread??? 8)

Do the wiggle girls count?

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gina carano, ex-MMA fighter:
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gretchen bleiler, snowboarder:
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Wunundred!

Mia Hamm; footballerist:

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and natalie gulbis for the century:
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edit - ok, century + 1 😡

😆

She could pedal in front of me all day 😀
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Yanky doodle Dallas Friday is on here too often, here's Britians best.
Will Christien
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Crazant - Who is that?

Does it say something about the average abuser of the chat forum that we can't even look at pictures of attractive sportsmen and women without starting an arguement. FFS it's friday. Go and have a nice cup of tea and a biscuit and calm down.

*i would have posted a pic but can't access any webpic sites from work*

hugo rune - any requests? 🙂

Erin Densham; triathlonist:

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Yeah - more pics of competitor 98 from Stutgart 2006 😀

Hugo , its Yelena Isinbayeva ..Pole Vault.. 🙂

ah, that's yelena isinbayeva the pole vaulter.
as you wish!
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I’m more then a little perturbed by the idea of male contributors arguing on the behalf of female contributors, on the grounds that they are too timid or reluctant to participate in a robust debate. This, I feel, is equally if not a more deeming attitude to the supposed objectification of the female form. It smacks of a “you sit there dear, I’ll sort this out for you” kind of thinking

I'm not doing that, I'm arguing that it's threads like this that reduce female participation on this site and make it the slightly sad, FHM-ish bastion of [b]{abusive language removed}[/b] online behaviour that it is, which is slightly different. It would help if you could communicate in something approaching comprehensible English by the way 😉

{It would also help if you could tone your language down BWD - Mod}

Blimey! It's all gone a bit Mary Whitehouse.

BAN THIS FILTH, BAN THIS FILTH I SAY!!!

Or just don't click it if you may find the contents offensive...

I also suggest changing the fuse from 2A to 15A

Magdalena Neuner, Ski'ist, Shooterist combo.

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Hum. I enjoy looking at pictures of Liz Hatch, she's lovely. But I don't think I'd want to do it while there were actual girls in the room particularly. Likewise I don't sit in bars with girls checking out other girls as they walk past. 🙂

Anyway, here's Dean Downing, Velocipe Racing-ist (I almost typed "racist", but that's not right...)

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BWD –In all honesty my views are not that different to yours, although I am concerned that society is increasingly allowing sexist attitudes towards men to go unchecked.
My point is that as a male do you really have the right or authority to defend a female argument, and that in doing so you are equally guilty of demeaning women as those of us admiring the female form. To have true equality the only true defence has to come from a women, that they choice not to comment, for what ever reason, is down to them
(sorry for be incomprehensible before but lost in an academic writing hell at the moment)

To have true equality the only true defence has to come from a women

frequently about this argument on this very thread it does.

Breakneck - that's fine, but it assumes there are a lot of women who can be bothered to challenge A&A, rather than just going somewhere else. Is it your view that if women leave STW rather than posting their objections on here that BWD cannot then express the views he has been putting forward? 🙂

[i]slightly sad[/?] We're on an internet forum ffs. Can't get much sadder than that. Apart from, of course whinging on and f%$*ing on about what other people do on an internet forum.

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(Raquel Hoffman)

and a touch of alison stokke for good measure (hi alan!)
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What is Raquel Hoffman doing? It looks like fishing, but I reckon it's going to bve more complicated than that... 🙂

if you're being serious(?), i think it's a tow-rope for wakeboarding!

My point is that as a male do you really have the right or authority to defend a female argument

I think I see where you're coming from (or should I say "there from whence you are coming") but I had this thing with a couple of mates in a pub (it was harmless enough banter by the way) recently, where I pulled them up on a particularly sexist comment. There weren't any women around but I just thought what they'd said was a bit neanderthal. Now I wasn't being a raving member of the PC brigade (whatever that is) but just thought they needed reminding that just because there aren't any women around, it doesn't automatically give them the right to be misogynistic.

Likewise, if someone made a racist comment in a pub, I'd like to think I'd pull him or her up on it...unless he was a 6 foot tall and tough looking skinhead in which case, I'd be staring at my feet (ashamedly).

I'm arguing that it's threads like this that reduce female participation on this site and make it the slightly sad, FHM-ish bastion of {abusive language removed} online behaviour that it is

If you have a look at [url= http://www.tritalk.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5976&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=6765 ]TriTalk[/url], a site which is pretty evenly split between the sexes, they too have a long running thread of A&A (a male one and a female one). They don't seem to suffer from any reduction in female participation due to the scantily clad male and female form being appreciated. Your arguement is flawed mr BWD.

Breakneckspeed - dont feel offended by BWD comment that you dont use comprehensible English, I understood what you were saying no problem.

And unlike BWD I am going to sit back and admire the last three pages of A&A before the ride home, what a great way to finish the working week. I hope I see some female cyclists on way home and not just the normal 20 or so males I normally see, shame.

BWD - I'm goign to keep count of all the female cyslists I see over the next week and report back to you next friday with numbers, watch this space. Riding on saturday and sunday so I might have to use my toes too. I hope the figure is high but I reckon its going to be the same kind of ratio of men to women who post on STW.

if you're being serious(?), i think it's a tow-rope for wakeboarding!

Or if you're being mischievous, it could be the handle of a whip...no?

I hate, and I mean absolutely without equivication hate having Thought Police in my life.

If I want to look at a person on or off line I will. If by so doing I feel that it may offend, or I subsequently become aware that my behaviour is offending someone, then I will make a value judgement as to how to deal with it dependant upon the prevailing circumstances at the time. I really don't need someone else poking their nose in, as all to frequently happens nowadays.

BWD that means you, and currently I am not aware of anyone, you apart who is offended by my actions. My value judgement therefore is to totally ignore what you have to say, as I don't feel it has any relevance to me or to those whom my actions may effect. By all means anyone who is genuinely offended by my viewing of this thread please let me know, so I can consider it.

In the meantime back to glopping......

[i]Or if you're being mischievous, it could be the handle of a whip...no?[/i]

For self-flagellation? Its all that self abuse you know.

Damn! Broke my own rule.
Shawna, Raquel's wakeboarderering sister.

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hilldodger - Member
....if the thread would stay within remit then it's not too bad, but it took what, 4 posts, to revert to the usual spaff-a-thon

In deference to the above accusation that pics are becoming too FHM, I apologise for posting a pic of the delightful Ms Hollywood in a shot, which she has sanctioned for press and pr use, where she is exiting a swimming pool. I shall endeavour to find a much less flattering one of her all hot and bothered on the Hockey field. I am sure I would much prefer a nice pic of me red faced, sweating and out of breath "60 minutes in" rather than one that makes me look nice.

Off to find my hairshirt.

Anyone want a sausage buttie? I've made two, but tbh, after the first one, I just don't fancy the other one. Nowt wrong with it, just a bit too much right now. I'm having an apple.

It's there if anyone wants it.

Please, RB. HP?

I'll have it, all that self abuse has made me hungry

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Andrea
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cripes - got any more of fiona? 🙂

(tell her to lose the reflectors as well!)

This made me lol but don't click if you are offended by muscular nudes, NSFW:

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It's my "entitlement" to ask (politely might I add) that at least one post on STW is "a bit of fun" without having to trawl through a load of PC drivel.

You're entitled to [b]ask[/b] but you're unlikely to [b]get[/b] :o)

got any more of fiona?

loads on the [url= http://www.bogtrotters.org ]site[/url]!

No competition for Anneke there then!
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They can't be your photos SFB, they're from the front 😀

This made me lol but don't click if you are offended by muscular nudes, NSFW:

sweet jesus! 😯

You could always wash it down with a beer.

They can't be your photos SFB, they're from the front

they were carefully chosen not to cause any offence :o)

This made me lol but don't click if you are offended by muscular nudes, NSFW:

sweet jesus!

She has muscles where no woman should! never seen them there before!

Clementine Lucin 3 eventerist
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Kirsty Jones.

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Kitesurfer and all round blast to be with. From west Wales as well 😆

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feel the speed

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This thread is now exhausted. At least, I am.

Not remotely work-safe pics of La Franco

wow.

Can we please stop posting NSFW links, folks? Rather see this stay totally clean!

Rather see this stay totally clean!

you wouldn't if you'd clicked through!

Can we please stop posting NSFW links, folks? Rather see this stay totally clean!

Na, let the people post porn if they want, because for all your pious sermonising and equivocation, that's really what they want, isn't it? I'm going to ride my bike now and be both athletic and aesthetic and sweaty :-/

BWD - do we get pics

BWD - do we get pics

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That's why I don't read these threads not enough pics for me to look at and appreciate 😉 all these girls pics make me feel inadequeate 😉 Big sigh...

That's why I don't read these threads not enough pics for me to look at and appreciate

well you can perve over [b]BWD[/b]'s butch form :o)

Jeez, some people need to lighten up. Are you saying on a forum mainly populated by blokes, on page 4 of a thread expicitly about good looking men and women you can't post a link with thorough and frank warning not to click if you would be offended by it? Wow.

Gussie Moran, trailblazer for "pornographers" everywhere!

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😯 😯 😯

LOL! No wonder he's bitter! 😆

No-one's getting the sausage buttie. I bunged it in the fridge, and am about to eat it now. Too late.

I met a very nice young lady in the swimming pool. I think she ogled me. I, of course, treated her with utmost respect, and treated her as a person, not an object.

There is a possibility she may be coming again next week! 😀

I hope she does not in any way objectify me though. I'm a person, not simply a sex-object...

I'm a person, not simply a sex-object...

should read: "I'm a person, not [b]even[/b] a sex-object..."

I'm a person, not simply a sex-object...

should read: "I'm a person, not even a sex-object..."

I'm simply a person, not a sex-object. 🙂

No, I don't mind being a sex-object; it's just that I like a nice chat and a cup of tea as well! 🙂

I don't mind being a sex-object;

you wish! Dream on Bad-hair-exemplified-Boy :o)