Paisley 10k this morning, far from ideal prep, we staying at friends, forgot my usual breakfast, carb free dinner the night before, slept in and not very well hydrated, and had a mole at the counter within the first 3k!.
Still, managed to knock nearly 2 mins off my PB, and managed a 5k PB too!.
Lesson learned, if I want to go sub 40 I have a lot of work to do.
Winner was a young local lad from kilbarchan in 30.40 - fantastic.
May as well pop my head into this thread having decided to have another bash at running.
I tried to do some running 2 years ago and in true beginner fashion did too much too soon and injured myself.
I’m a little wiser this time around I think. I’ve finished my XC racing for this season so it’s not the end of the world if I do injure myself again. That being said I’ve been to a reputable running shop and bought some half decent running trainers after a lengthy analysis and fitting session.
Ita early days yet (literally 4 runs so far). I’ve decided to listen to my head and follow a steady couch to 10k plan. My lungs want me to carry on but my tendons and ligaments will take a little more work!
No issues so far other than some / a lot of expected DOMS. I’m lookig forward to being able to run and not have to worry about being able to walk the next day!
Best of luck r8jimbob88.
Aye, best of luck, keep us posted on your progress.
Good luck. It takes a bit of care starting up when you've got the lungs from cycling but not quite the legs/ligaments for running.
Complete pole convert here, at least for distances over 25km. It's pretty mountainous round here, and they make a huge difference for any kind of uphill - I'm not so keen on them for the downhill bits, but I have to admit my French mate uses them on the downhills and usually beats me to the bottom...
Good afternoon fellow runnists 👍
As I’m a little bored I thought I’d update you on my ON Running Shoes experiences to date.
I took a little jump of faith changing to ON from Salomon, but felt the time was right to try some other runners.
As you maybe aware I only run trails, rarely on road and if so it’s just to link up trails on a loop.. therefore I only look for grip and whether the shoe will last whilst covered in mud or backed on mud. I have cleaned these a few times with mild detergent and a scrub from a kitchen sponge but not thrown them into the washing machine (though I have with my SpeedX3’s)
Wear rate is looking good, these have covered just under 1300ks and are not showing much wear yet (treads still pretty good) Wasn’t 100% sure about the clouds design at first, I did think they’d fill with mud and become a squeak fest or I’d loose the cushion effect.. but nope so far the mud has just cleared out of the clouds and they’ve remained stable and spongy.
The shoe has a large toe box, and open heal cup. This means there is plenty of space for larger socks, and yet the heal cup is very effective even though there is a large cut away.
The dry spell we had showed just how breathable the upper is, as it’s mostly thin mesh with inner straps that lead from the sole to the laces, this provides lots of breathing but does mean the sweat that’s escaping gathers dust and they do go grubby quickly.
The sole grip is interesting in itself, the clouds tend to mould to the terrain but they’re not the best grip on damp roots or rocks.. and honestly pretty dangerous on damp decking 😜
Hope you find my lunchtime musings interesting whilst tucking into your lunch..
Well I too am back on the wagon - have been for a couple of weeks, and only just cleared phone to get strava back on there to keep a record. The nice bit is I still have *some* fitness, so the target by Christmas is to run to work, which is near as dammit 10k, over a gert big hill...
Did 30k at the weekend up in the hills n moors near Dunkeld, dreich and poor visibility, made a few navigational errors which led to an hour of bludgeoning through bog and deep heather, eventually emerging soaked and legs all cut to hell, could barely stop to wring out my socks or eat a snack as there were crazy swarms of clegs. A definite 'type 2' fun kinda day
At the other end of the distance spectrum I will be running my first race for a year this evening. Just a 5k and I dont expect to go much under 20 mins but with a couple of months training under my belt, enjoying being injury free for a bit.
Set a marker tonight then look to bring it closer to 18 mins over the autumn/winter. Then look to get in some O/50 scraps 🙂
O/55 only 14 months away :0
I think I'm going to rock up at my local 5k park run this weekend. What's the worst that could happen...!
I'm really just looking to set a benchmark as a newcommer. Something I can guage my progress against over the coming months.
Parkrun is great for benchmarking your progress.
1st 5k Parkrun done this morning. Also happens to be the first time I’ve ran more than 2 minutes without walking for a bit! My 7th run in 2 years. So much for taking it steady.... guess my inner racer kicked in! Slowly reeling in other runners was great fun.
Set off quite conservatively and picked up the pace throughout. Eventually managed a 22:27.
So that’s the benchmark set. Looking forward to seeing that come down over the coming months.
Had great plans to parkrun this morning. Woke up at the back of 9 so didn't
Rode 30k to coffee shop for lunch and 30k back
Found there was no food in the house so decided to run into the village via the farm.
Managed a solid 10k. Not fast but also not hard. No pains in my calves feeling really good running recently. Put it down to new shoes(nothing fancy just decathlon specials)
My planned parkruns outnumber my actually ran ones 2-1 :-/
Did the Aberdeen half marathon today, first race in a while that didn't go to plan, started too far back and had to work through slower crowds, then once clear banged it but overcooked it (ended up setting a 10k pb) then the wheels fell off at around the same time there was a lot of head wind and had to really hang on and grind through the last half hour, pre-crampy twitches and jolts in all kinda leg bits. Still a reasonable result at 1'34 but had hoped to break 1'30
The Ben Nevis race is next Saturday, anyone else doing it?
I ran the Ben via the race route on Friday and amazed myself by doing 1:58 which is only a minute slower than my pb set in the 2016 race.
Bodes well for the race but of course it could all still go tits up on the day!
The Ben race marks the start of what I'm calling Mad September. Glencoe Skyline 2 weeks after the Ben and 3 peaks cx 2 weeks after that.
first race in a while that didn’t go to plan,
Ive given up a little on trying to plan and predict a good race. Other than a general feeling that more racing (up to a point) tends to lead to good form.
Trapped nerve in my lower rib cage in my back 🤮
I knew something wasn’t right after Thursday evenings hack. Sore on Sat, sore yesterday and this morning a bit of a lump and the shudders in that area.
It will work itself out, happened many times before.
So feet up for a week or so, and a beer or two.
Enjoy the Autumn 😜🍁🤣
Doing the Hull Marathon as a relay team of 4, I’m 59, wife is 56, then we have two old lads who do Parkrun with us. One is 79 and had never run till two years ago and is now running sub 30 mins 5k. The other guy is 77 and is at the other end of his running career having done a sub 3hr marathon in his time.
i reckon we must be the oldest team there, I bloody hope so anyway and as long as we don’t get overtaken by a giant banana jobs a good un!
You know those days when everything just comes right?
Took about 9 mins off my Ben Nevis PB and came in at 1:48:20 (watch time, no official results yet). Delighted 🙂
Sorry, never seen this yesterday Spin, brilliant time, you must be proper chuffed! bravo sir.
Wee question - Anyone joined a (whisper it) running club? There's a fair few locally, I'm not really a club type person, local biking club really reinforced my views a few years back - full of eternal commitee type folks, snobs and the odd person that was actually awrite.
But.... I reckon my running would really improve in a club structure, training and track nights etc, especially through the winter.
Thoughts?...
Anyone joined a (whisper it) running club?
Yes and no... I'm in a mountain running club, but mainly for the insurance and the discount you get for races. We do meet up every now and then to go for a run, but it's not what you're presumably after. I'm also in a (whisper it) triathlon club - and that's a lot more like what I'm guessing you want. We do a proper training session twice a week, run first then swim. The running bit has definitely improved my running - apart from the motivational aspect, don't underestimate how useful the technique part can also be. So yes, I'd recommend it.
Good effort Spin, I couldn’t do that in a month of Sunday’s with 2yrs training 😜
Running Club ? Yes, I run with a few guys out of Karibu (Sth Downs based) Sam is amazing, he’s got a link to Salomon so if you turn up unprepared you can use some of his gear..
And now I’ve picked up a hernia 😜💪
Felt a bit “off” since I whacked my groin with a windsurfing boom a week last Sunday, woke Saturday to find a lump on my abdomen and feeling all bloated and sorry for myself.
Doc says “ultrasound Sonny Jim” so hey..
I’d like it sorted quickly, if that’s ok 🥀🤷♂️🤣🤣
And now I’ve picked up a hernia
Aye, me too, a wee inguinal lump since about late february. Doc has told me to leave it if it's not bothering me, which it isn't.
Well done Spin, fabulous time. Out of interest, what was the split up/down?
Hmm.. it’s the size of my fist on my abdomen.
Which is going to be an interesting journey 🤷♂️🤔🤘
Well done Spin, fabulous time. Out of interest, what was the split up/down?
Cheers. Curiously, I was pretty much exactly half the time going down I was going up. 1:12 on the ascent and 36 mins on descent. I made up a lot of places on the descent.
brilliant time, you must be proper chuffed!
I'm delighted, I think it's probably my best performance in a classic fell race.
Re the club thing. I've been involved with both cycling and running clubs and have found the running club to be much more open, inclusive, friendly and less focused on internal politics. Which isn't to say they're all like that!
Bouncing today. Been nursing a very dodgy Achilles for what seems like months and got the nod from the physio to do a touch this week. 2 miles on the canals yesterday and I have woke up with no pain or discomfort, absolutely chuffed. This also means that I can do Parkrun tomorrow. 6 weeks until Birmingham half marathon so it's just about doable to get fit for it.
Good stuff sir, best of luck with it!.
Mrs Nobeer still doing brilliant, 40 this year, up until about last xmas, she'd never ran the length of herself, another 10k under the belt last sunday, we just used it as a moderate training run, cruised home in 55 mins, chatting, laughing and encouraging others, super proud of her, she's really got the bug now. She's up to 11 miles in her half marathon training plan too, awesome.
For a moment this week, I was tempted to sign up for a local ultra, River Ayr way ultra, 40 miles, from source to sea of the river on various surfaces. It's got a 10 hour cutoff, I reckon I could finish inside that, but thought better of it and will be in a better condition for a go next year. I'd rather have a good go at it than just complete it.
Only 27 quid as well, includes bus out to start, good local, grassroots event.
Surrey Bacchus Marathon this weekend starting from Denbies in Dorking, 2 loops around the North Downs, inspired by the Marathon du Medoc. Using it as a supported long hilly training run in advance of the Bournemouth Marathon next month. Won't be consuming much wine on the way round 🙂
Cheers, Rich
Did 18.50 at Chippenham parkrun which I was really pleased with. Proper training starting now (Hills). Unfortunately something bit me right on a tendon that has become so inflamed I have not been able to run. I cant believe the bike has now become my x training with the running becoming the main thing!
I cant believe the bike has now become my x training with the running becoming the main thing!
Yip, ran more miles than I've cycled this year! Translates really well though, when I do get the MTB out, I'm quicker than I've ever been.
Ran another 10 k tonight. Knocked 7 minutes off my last time for 56.35 50/50 on and off road.
I don't think I've ever ran more than 1 10 k in a year before. Normally get injured after the first.
Ran another 15 miles but I now have a blister on the tip of my toe next to the big toe on my left foot. It's almost like spending 3 weeks on holiday bare foot has made my feet get very slightly bigger very odd.
What do people do for fluids in anything over half marathon as I get to 14 miles without food/fluid absolutely fine but then blow up and hit a wall. But a. I hate carrying things and b. A hydration vest looks a bit much for 15 miles.
I'm going to hydrate a bit better and feed before setting off as I normally have 2 black coffees and set off probably not the best planning. Also my long run day is normally after my night shift finishes as it fits in well with family stuff
Everyone's different but I don't usually need fluids on anything less than 2hrs. I think you've correctly identified part of the problem in the coffees!
I have a bumbag water bottle carrier for long runs. Needs to be a good fit to avoid annoying bounce. Necessary evil for much over 2h in my experience (and useful practice for marathons too). Also take jelly babies or similar.
🙂 now I like jelly babies.
I tried a cheap waist belt with a bottle in once and I nearly threw it away after a few miles. Oh and I didn't even use it haha right waste of time that was
Righto, wee question time.
Recovery - I usually run 4 or 5 times a week, try to have rest days, but sometimes my mates are going biking on days I have down as rest days, and I end up going.
Did that today, ran 11 miles yesterday, and had slightly heavy legs biking today. I'm not too bad at hydration, but in terms of nutrition, I tend not to pay attention to carbs, protein etc, so have no idea if I get enough of anything. I am however tempted to start trying upping my protein by using shakes post run.
Thoughts? I really can't be arsed getting too scientific, using myfitnesspal etc, as I know I eat cleanly, and all our food is hone cooked, and I don't really use measurements with lots of stuff.
Will it do my recovery any good?.
Cheers, G.
What do people do for fluids in anything over half marathon as I get to 14 miles without food/fluid absolutely fine but then blow up and hit a wall. But a. I hate carrying things and b. A hydration vest looks a bit much for 15 miles.
Get the backpack/vest. While it's probably overkill for that kind of run, it's a lot more flexible and should you start to do longer runs it's a useful investment (no pun intended...) They're also great in winter when you want to carry a bit more kit.
If you're feeling flush get a belt pack - I've got both backpacks and belts, and for shorter runs like the ones you're asking about a belt is definitely more comfortable, but it's not a huge difference and a vest is better VFM.
FWIW the belt I use most is a Salomon one.
Does anyone else run in a baseball cap-style hat? I've just been for a run in the pouring rain and, although I actually like running in the rain, and don't usually bother with a rain jacket, something to help keep the water running down my head and into my eyes would be good.
Are there caps that are worth recommending?
I sometimes wear a cap, got one as a race freebie. Must admit it's more for sun than rain though! On wet days I'm more likely to wear a beanie for warmth.
Regarding recovery, nothing special here but I do try to eat/drink something as soon as possible post run. Pint of orange squash usually goes down well.
I've always found a glass of milk and some mini pretzels to work post-run.
I run in an old karrimor running cap. Lightweight so doesn’t make your head too sweaty. Cost about a fiver. Helps keep water out of my eyes when it’s raining.
i noticed Decathlon do a similar one.
