[Closed] The other A&A...Art and Appreciation

IS that woman stroking a very skinny cat?

Edward Hopper. New York Movie.

Don't know why but it gets me every time and i suppose that's what great art is supposed to do.

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"Gets" you? In what way?

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Dozens of even more amazing pieces [url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/c215/ ]here[/url]
My favourite is [url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/c215/3592690369/ ]this one[/url]. (can't link directly to his images)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6984208089899995423#

It really doesn't come any better than this

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simonjf63 - Member
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6984208089899995423#

It really doesn't come any better than this

jools holland has aged badly, hasn't he.

finally a thread i can get behind

as an ex skateboarder i really appreciate art from skateboarders

Andy Howell

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Ed Templeton

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Mark Gonzales

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Stanley Donwood

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We try and make art a family and friends event.
Something we can share and experience together.

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Jeff Koons - Puppy

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This portrait of SS Reichsfuhrer Heinrich Himmler is always a favourite, painted as it affectionately is, using brush strokes and candy colours.

That's so touching ernie. What a beautiful man...

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Uccello - [i]Hunt in the forest[/i]. Ashmolean Museum, Oxford.

Those trees...

That Ucello pic - mid C15th going from the clothing.

The thing that tickles me about provenance and using paintings as such is that so many artists painted scenes from history (from their perspective) using contemporary (sp?) clothing & equipment, giving us ancient battles with protagonists wearing C15th armour etc.

This picture tugs at the heartstrings...

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The end of a day, the end of an era as a proud ship is towed, lifeless, to its death.

And the detail and action in this is wonderful;
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Velasquez, La Tela Real

To be brutally honest, I was hoping for photographs of nude / scantily clad ladies. I am V. Dissapointed.

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Anything else is pants... Even his judo moves

Ummmm Flash how can something that is lifeless then die? 😉

My favourite painting, The Fighting Temeraire

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I love this.
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thats a beaut loula bella who's that by??

this always gets me so good yet equally frustrating.

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Joaquin Sorolla Bastida - Valencian Fisherwomen
Im a big fan of all things Spanish, the colours are remarkably and the women so noble.

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The portrayal of vulnerability in a windswept landscape just triggers something for me?

And the Rex Whistler mural at Plas Newydd
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The portrayal of vulnerability in a windswept landscape just triggers something for me?

pervert 😉

juan: nothing I have seen by Mark Rothko can possibly count as art.

julian, you're surely not referring to the juan's post above?

Mark Rothko was an immensely talented artist. His work does need to be seen in the right setting but it definitely does count as very high quality art. To say it's not art is nonsense.

To say it's not art is an opinion surely?
art is personal is it not? To say it's nonsense is an incontrovertible personal statement. If it means something to you then it's art. If it doesn't then it's paint on a canvas

A piece of art is what it is.
To like or dislike a piece is the opinion and does not stop the piece being what it is. I used to dislike Rothko paintings (for example). Now I like them. The paintings have'nt changed my opinion of them has. They have'nt suddenly become art. I like them and they are still pigment and canvas (that's partly what Rothko was getting at with his paintings).
There are no councils or bodies which decide what is or is not art. The viewer can have an opinion of likes and dislikes but to say if it is true or not based on that opinion is nonsense.

swiss01 - Member
julian, you're surely not referring to the juan's post above?

I was, but I have just realised that it's apparently someone else! Ooops!

Anyway, juan's post or not, I stand by what I said about Rothko.

How about some Paul Delvaux:

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Just did an art tour of Italy, some of the most gorgeous paintings in Floreza and Roma.

Some good stuff on here too.

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No camera!

I read the 'what's up with the classifieds' thread before this one, and the two put together got me thinking.

There's something fishy about the mentality of 'its worth what someone is prepared to pay for it' relating of the selling of possibly overpriced bike bits when juxtaposed to the statement 'its not art'. Because in this case it is made about someone who sold pictures as art and made a living of it, taught 'art' as a job (and was paid for it), and had a larger presence in an industry, which despite its left wing leanings (and credentials; rothko was a communist party member for a time and was always sympathetic about issues of social justice) is a very big money industry.

In my humble opinion, if we imagine the same person making the two statements I think we get a very distinct 'picture' of conservative ideology: that while there is a full embrace of capitalism's determinist ability to determine 'value' over and above the needs of a community, the 'values' which are represented in the traditionally upper class concern of art, when challenged, can be defended by recourse to the ideals of the small elite section of society that have any say in determining 'what art is' despite the offending's work appropriation into a capitalist system.

I'm not saying full bore capitalism is good, that market forces should determine all things. Or that the expertise accumulated by the art-elite should be ignored. I'm just saying that there is a simple hypocrisy in such a position.

To restate, I'm not accusing anyone, I'm simply imagining a person making the two statements. i suspect i flatter myself by thinking anyone would be offended!

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i suspect i flatter myself by thinking anyone would be offended!

well, I've read your whole post twice and I still don't know what it means...

I still don't know what it means..

No offence mate ........... but you probably shop at Tesco 😐

'm not saying full bore capitalism is good, that market forces should determine all things. Or that the expertise accumulated by the art-elite should be ignored. I'm just saying that there is a simple hypocrisy in such a position.

huh?

the BP Portrait Award at the National Portrait gallery is amazing

the winning portrait, I thought, was incredible - this was before I knew it was the winner
I found it quite hard to look at for longer than 10 seconds without feeling uncomfortable - no other piece of art has done that to me

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some of the other portraits are unbelievable, and look like photographs, even close up

but you probably shop at Tesco

well, I might but it's too far to walk...

Now I've read it a third time and I get a collection of loosely related statements in slightly jargonised language which don't actually seem to lead to a point

...and it's the last day of the exhibition tomorrow

this is not a photo

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nor this

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I like this one

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Now I've read it a third time and........

I get the distinct impression that tom84's comment probably makes sense. However, it undoubtedly requires a great deal of attention and concentration to be fully understood ........... something which quite frankly I can't be bothered with.

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BTW, I wasn't sure whether you were saying that you couldn't understand tom84's comment, or whether you couldn't understand the picture/artist he was referring to. So where do you shop then ?

I wasn't sure whether you were saying that you couldn't understand tom84's comment

yes

So where do you shop then ?

Sainsbury & Somerfield 🙂 The nearest Tesco is 5 miles away in Morecambe

You need to get yourself a car mate.

brakes - I like what you've posted! I have absolutely no idea who did the image of the woman, nor of the image of the man. If you have details and would care to share them, I would very much appreciate that.

thanks in advance,
Jonathan

some of the most gorgeous paintings in Floreza

Where the f*** is that??

Where the f*** is that??

I wouldn't bother if I were you.

I've been to Floreza .............. it was shite.

Jontawn, check out the exhibitors section of this page - http://www.npg.org.uk/bp-portrait-award-20091/the-exhibition.php