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this unlapping is rubbish


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 2:39 pm
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Why did they pit HAM? I'm just listening on the radio. Sounds like a bloody silly idea anyway.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 2:41 pm
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stitched up by his own team.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 2:47 pm
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That's ruined my afternoon now - HOW can they make such a cock-up.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 2:53 pm
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gutted - even worse is Rosbergs smug smiley face.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 2:59 pm
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I'm a McLaren fan so don't really care about Mercedes but they really need to sort out their strategy people. They ****ed up massively in Malaysia and now Monaco.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:02 pm
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Robbed berg. Fastest in practice 1 2 3 and quality. Crap


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:05 pm
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And now Rosberg is a 3 time Monaco winner, like Hill, Prost and Senna.
Does he deserve that?


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:06 pm
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Not at all. He had no justification to celebrate at all


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:11 pm
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History will show that he won 3 times, even though we know he's only won twice. The difference is those other 3 time winners have 9 World Championships between them.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:17 pm
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Personally I think Rosberg should be showing a lot more humility given the situation. Poor form IMO.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:20 pm
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Idiots, I'd want some ones head on a platter if I was Lewis.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:31 pm
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stabbed in the back by his own team, nice.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:37 pm
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A win is a win,#44 would have taken it if was the other way round. Rosberg needs to be buying Max V a couple of beers tonight?


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:42 pm
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Lewis has really changed since he was at McLaren, no more red mist and much better thinker.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:44 pm
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I think I just fell out of love with F1.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:45 pm
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Not Nicos fault - why should he not celebrate?

After the petulant parking and walk, lewis was well-behaved despite Brundles best efforts!!

Made the last few laps more interesting, so thanks Merc


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:48 pm
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Mercedes need to learn that any mistake this year looks like it will hand points to Vettel-Ferrari. He's only 28 points off the lead which is ridiculous given the perceived Mercedes advantage.

Something about Vettel and that Ferrari is starting to work methinks.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 3:54 pm
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"We thought the gap was different to what it was. A complete misjudgement, I am so sorry. We screwed it up for him," says Mercedes head of motorsport Toto Wolff.

I'm sorry Toto that doesn't explain anything! Why was it a good idea to bring lewis in at all ? why take the risk ? Roseberg didn't need to be brought in and managed to drive away from Vettel and there tyre wear wsa much the same.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 4:05 pm
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I can’t really express the way I feel at the moment, so I won’t even attempt to,” he said. “You rely on the team. I saw a screen, it looked like the team was out and I thought that Nico had pitted. Obviously I couldn’t see the guys behind so I thought the guys behind were pitting. The team said to stay out, I said ‘these tyres are going to drop in temperature,’ and what I was assuming was that these guys would be on Options and I was on the harder tyre. So, they said to pit. Without thinking I came in with full confidence that the others had done the same


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 5:22 pm
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After the petulant parking and walk, lewis was well-behaved despite Brundles best efforts!!

Hamilton had every right to be pissed off and wound up after the effort he put in over the weekend, to describe him as petulant today is pretty crap.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 5:41 pm
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Simple error of judgement - I just don't see why there is such an issue.

Maybe the sport would be better if Hamilton won every race? This would seem to keep the great British public happy!


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 5:56 pm
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Nahh, it's more a case of "anyone but Rossberg".

He's the biggest prick in the paddock after Alonso.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 5:58 pm
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They'd not have done that before he signed the contract.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 6:02 pm
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I like that Lewis doesn't try hide his feelings behind a thin veil of insincere civility like everyone else; when he's pissed off, you see it, when he's elated, it comes across. He's like a raw nerve and I, for one, appreciate it.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 6:49 pm
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Drive of the race belonged to Max Verstappen right up to lap 64 😯


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 6:50 pm
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Just when you thought Rosberg couldn't get anymore smug!


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 6:54 pm
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I like that Lewis doesn't try hide his feelings behind a thin veil of insincere civility like everyone else; when he's pissed off, you see it, when he's elated, it comes across. He's like a raw nerve and I, for one, appreciate it.

And I don't. Not a fan of his at all.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 7:07 pm
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I think Lewis conducted himself magnificently. He went across to congratulate the lion'king-faced bloke.

Hes every right to be pissed. He did the fitness, the work, the hardwork, the talent and the burk on the pitwall shot him. So who was that bloke me TW..


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 7:36 pm
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shame for Lewis, even I (yes I) thought he deserved the win today - i dont despair so much at Rosbergs smugness, every F1 driver knows it could happen to them in an instant -

to be honest, should he really looked **ssed off considering he;s the highest pad f1 driver for the next 3 years....i think i'd have shrugged my shoulders as i cashed that big cheque at his MONACO HOME AND PAID NO UK TAX ON IT and gone out and partied hard with cystal champagne ...


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 10:25 pm
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The money doesn't matter. You don't get to this level without having some sort of racing sickness, they need to race and would be doing it no matter what the money was. If he was earning £25k a year he'd still be doing it. So money isn't a consolation when you lose a race you were going to win through no fault of your own.

As much as I can't stand Nico I thought his interview on BBC was quite nice, he was very charitable towards LH and admitted he had a huge amount of luck come his way to win the race.


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 12:52 am
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Stay off the pop again and have a look what Alonso and Vettel are on.


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 5:21 am
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@hora - difference between Alonso/Vettel and Hamo - is they both live in thier home countries and pay tax, so i was talking NET not GROSS.


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 8:24 am
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its just the same when they leave the cars out too long or leave a wheel off. its part and parcel of racing. Not always the best guy wins. Well done to Jenson for scoring the first points for Mclaren honda 2015. Great result seeing they were with manor at the start of the season. They still look like they can only finish the race with one car


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 9:15 am
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Both are on more dude. Stay away from drugs


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 12:54 pm
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@hora - difference between Alonso/Vettel and Hamo - is they both live in thier home countries and pay tax, so i was talking NET not GROSS.

Vettel lives in Switzerland.


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 1:03 pm
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And they will all probably work through their companies to write of as much tax as they can


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 4:48 pm
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And they will all probably work through their companies to write of as much tax as they can

You mean they signed up to a c2w scheme?


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 4:56 pm
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inexperience on the pitwall .. toto wolf looked out of his depth in the post interviews scratching his head and apologising and apologising. A pretty epic way of scoring an own goal. You do wonder what toto does on the racing side when he is the business head? Shouldn't it be Paddy Lowe explaining the process?


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 7:26 pm
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Not convinced it should be either of them because Paddy Lowe was a designer at McLaren, not a race operations guy.


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 7:39 pm
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Well that was embarrassing. It's spiced things up I suppose, and Lewis did well to compose himself in the interviews, but I can't say I came away with many good feelings from that one! Apart from Verstappen, obvs, a little legend in the making 🙂


 
Posted : 25/05/2015 8:15 pm
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"Until now the blame has been squarely taken by the Mercedes strategy team and their management.

But Mirror Sport has learned the team initially ordered Hamilton to STAY OUT when the safety car was deployed.

But they changed their minds when he radioed: “Are you sure it’s the best thing to stay out ? These tyres have lost all their temperature and everyone else is going to be on [faster] options now.”

The reply was: “Ok, copy, copy. Box. Box.”"


 
Posted : 29/05/2015 11:08 am
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I think it still lies with the team.

I'm under the impression, he was thinking Rosberg & Vettel would pit for new tyres, leaving him potentially vulnerable. If the team had faith in their strategy and told him no one else was pitting, I'm sure he'd of stayed on those tyres that had lost all temperature.

Oh, and Lewis' part in the conversation was even mentioned on the BBC highlights so it hasn't just come to light either.


 
Posted : 29/05/2015 11:51 am
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a bit of perspective needed - he's only lost a race, cant win the all. The ultimate prize is the third world championship - and he still leads it and the stronger of the two drivers.

I bet he's not even thinking about it now, time to move on


 
Posted : 29/05/2015 12:17 pm
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There are two issues, one is if he should have come in at all, and the other is the time difference between Hamo and 2nd place.

Where Merc messed up was that they though there was a bigger gap between 1 and 2 then there actually was. Obviously Hamo was in agreement to come in, otherwise he wouldn't of come in. But he was also under the impression that there was enough time between him and no 2 that he could come in pit and get out in front.

So really its Mercs fault.


 
Posted : 29/05/2015 12:19 pm
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