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One of the things which makes me curious about the BBC poll is that they're predicting a second Green seat which hasn't been predicted by anything else I've seen.
YouGov:-
Con 284
Lab 263
LD 31
SNP 48
UKIP 2
PC 3
Green 1
Much more palatable and likely! 🙂
DUP will enter into confidence and supply, no ambition to be in coalition.
allthepies - MemberChewy
In early 2015 Robinson underwent surgery to remove a bronchial carcinoid tumour; he returned to work at the BBC on 13 April.
Bloody hell I did not know that ... 😮
I always enjoy his political analysis and I hope he will recover his voice.
😯
Off to bed as on earlies tomorow ( just me policing an area of 35000 people). Hoping for a small miracle overnight and I might get a colleague in a few months 🙁
[quote=camo16 ]If the SNP share is right, Labour is well and truly ****ed, not only now, but from now on, because without Scotland the party can't win nationally.
In 97 Labour won 362 seats in England and Wales, with 330 required for a majority (fairly sure that happened in other recent elections as well, but just checked the most obvious).
Edit: 357 in England in Wales in 2001
UKIP seem to be 3rd in many seat by seat predictions.
That's scary, glad we don't have PR
Good news there aracer
Wasn't looking forward to a permanent Tory state. 🙁
Peter Kellner picks the ball up now!!!
Haven't heard beeb mention yougov poll, where is that data ?
Dude from YouGov on now… he seems calm enough.
beer anyone?
I've gone straight to gin, these are dark times...
I'm wondering how the popular vote will stack up given the peculiarities of the FPTP
It's the Marr puppet, oh that's brighten my mood.
Hmmm. Why didn't he mention his own poll then?
[quote=camo16 ]Good news there aracer
Wasn't looking forward to a permanent Tory state.
I wouldn't rely on it too much, things have changed since 2001 (they didn't manage it without Scotland in 2005 - though they'd have had enough for a coalition with the Lib Dems), but the numbers certainly aren't impossible for them given a more popular leader and better campaign.
In any case the fundamental way politics works in this country tends to prevent one party holding power permanently - see mid 90s when Tories got complacent and started arguing amongst themselves whilst Labour stole their ground.
Kellner and Ashdown seem pretty happy that the poll is wrong to me.
yougov sample 6,000 exit poll 22,000
booze update: my gin is much better with lemonade than with tonic. WEIRD!
But will Al Murray beat Farage?!?
I'm so unbelievably disappointed in the in the public if that exit poll is true.
Harriet seemed far too willing to accept the exit poll. She seemed to give it a ton of credence.
Sounds like the Tories are taking it pretty seriously too.
I guess they ought to know, but it seems a bit premature to me.
Calmed down a little now that Gove's gone. Am currently drinking LBV Port, lime infused tonic, ice… quaff-tastic.
YouGov has not done an exit poll. A re-contact survey today simply gave us no reason to change our final numbers from yesterday.
But will Al Murray beat Farage?!?
Please god yes!!!
@jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
My gin is in 3 measures mixed with 1 of vodka and 1/2 of lillet, shaken with a thin slice of lemon... given the exit poll... not strong enough.
I presume the major parties have been taking their own exit polls and that the BBC one generally agrees with theirs.
[quote=steveoath ]But will Al Murray beat Farage?!?
6-2, 2-6, 6-0
My gin is in 3 measures mixed with 1 of vodka and 1/2 of lillet, shaken with a thin slice of lemon... given the exit poll... not strong enough.
mine's 50/50 gin/lemonade, no mucking about. It's pretty good gin tho
UKIP bloke is saying exit polls are wrong. Given my usual criteria for credence of anything UKIP say, that pretty much settles it for me.
Electoral Calculus Exit Poll: CON = 280, LAB = 274, LIB DEM = 21, SNP = 52.
i really don't get the ukips, their whole thing is akin to shitting in your own bed
Maybe, just maybe the Scottish wipeout + a tory 'win' will force Labour to start listening to the core vote it has abandoned?
Given up, now watching C4 - marginally funnier.
What core vote?
I'm guessing he's on about the working classes, matey.
rogerthecat - Member
Given up, now watching C4 - marginally funnier.
david mitchell should not have a beard and i say this as a long time beard haver and advocate
Labour hold oop North somewheres
Her speech sounds a little like the Oscars' best cinematography award. "I'd like to thank my agent…" 😯
Monkey wearing a red rosette territory though.
Why were the police needed to ensure a peaceful count???
What's been going on?
That is actually an interesting result I think.
Crikey ... Sunderland has gone red army by 21,218 with UKIP in 2nd and Tories 3rd ...
Bloody hell Sunderland are you waiting for hand outs?
7% swing to UKIP from Labour in Sunderland. *sigh*
LibDems in getting a shoeing non-shocka in Sunderland South.
Ha. Lib dems lost their deposit. Hope that bodes badly for Cleggs seat
i would like to reiterate my stance on david mitchell's beard: he should not have it.
Bloody hell Sunderland are you waiting for hand outs?
What does this mean?
paulosoxo - MemberBloody hell Sunderland are you waiting for hand outs?
What does this mean?
Don't look for meaning in a chewkw post.
paulosoxo - Member
Bloody hell Sunderland are you waiting for hand outs?
What does this mean?
Going red (communist) which means it is pointless to improve but waiting to share ... 🙄 Ya, stop blaming lack of investment etc ...
I'm guessing he's on about the working classes, matey.
I think it's gone
Going red (communist) which means it is pointless to improve but waiting to share ...
What do you mean?
[quote=rogerthecat ]Given up, now watching C4 - marginally funnier.
Gove is on again - unfortunately the weather is buggering up my C4 reception or I'd be joining you (really must get up on the roof and sort out the antenna).
I think it's gone
Nope, they're what we now call "decent hard-working families" now. That's just semantics.
Some of the candidates and party workers on the BBC Wales programme are much more polished and presenting themselves better than the actual BBC staff, some of whom look like volunteers...
[quote=paulosoxo ]Going red (communist) which means it is pointless to improve but waiting to share ...
What do you mean?
See zigzag's post
paulosoxo - Member
Going red (communist) which means it is pointless to improve but waiting to share ...
What do you mean?
Work harder and get off the sofa ... no matter which govt is in power the region remains the same ... struggling ...
chewkw, do you have any idea of the voting history of Sunderland?
He's obviously got no idea of the political history of the whole North East with a comment like that.
Labour have undoubtedly moved rightwards over the last decades, whether you think that is the correct stance to take is a personal choice. However there is a 'core vote' with Leftist values that feel unrepresented about now.
Will Labour fill that gap again, or will a new party arise?
slowoldman - Memberchewkw, do you have any idea of the voting history of Sunderland?
I was told once by my very knowledgeable colleague from London that the North was once Tories until the pit closure or something like that ... or and some sort of scandal in the Toon ... 😆
What's the history then? Quick summary please no need to go into detail.
😛
Labour since around 1950 for Sunderland Central. I think South did have a brief flirtation with the Tories back in the fifties but has been Labour since 1964. Just waiting for Central to announce the inevitable then I'm off to bed.
SNP on 58. Well maybes aye and maybes naw, but if they have is that the union up in smoke?
Seems like Cameron's actions after the referendum were like a poke in the eye for a lot of Scots voters. And Labour haven't been forgiven for working with the Tories.
With Miliband they thought they had moved left, can't see them moving further left if he has failed. Brave men double down.
For the innocent amongst us, chewkw is one of the many STW resident aliens that like to visit our planet from time to time
Chewkw.
Please stop adding bits onto your replies
Please could you actually try and make some sense
Where are the claims of the region struggling? Have we sent an sos? Was it in the paper?
Talk of Ed Balls' seat looking close!
Nick Robinson tweeting its only a rumour & that ballot boxes only just arrived for the count.
Talk of Ed Balls' seat looking close!
That would be peachy. Almost a Portillo moment.
...until the pit closure or something like that
Sounds like Katie Hopkins now.
Oh look Sunderland Central. What a surprise that is.
Nearly 8k votes for UKIP 🙁
[quote=paulosoxo ]Chewkw.
...
Please could you actually try and make some sense
You're not [i]listening[/i]
Have you all voted....
Www.votenationalbird.com
Haven't seen any polls, but hoping Puffins win it!
what does it take to loose a deposit? what's the criteria?
slowoldman - Member
Sounds like Katie Hopkins now.
You may be on to something... probably not, but maybe, just maybe
ElShalimo - Member
For the innocent amongst us, chewkw is one of the many STW resident aliens that like to visit our planet from time to time
I promise not to probe anyone who does not volunteer to be probed ...
paulosoxo - Member
Where are the claims of the region struggling? Have we sent an sos? Was it in the paper?
No, just me looking into my "crystal ball" ... ya, I know I cannot sustain my argument but when I went to Sunderland the place just felt grim ... not good man, not good ... 😮
edit: Another 20k win for red Ed in Sunderland ... 😯
[quote=slowoldman ]Sounds like Katie Hopkins now.
Had forgotten about her - thanks for reminding me 🙄 presumably she's staying now, yay!
Less than 5% of votes I think.
lib dems really ****ed themselves over by going for a shot at power in the coalition and this upsets me.
but not as much as the existence of the ukips or the snp
Don't mention SNP and the Kippers in the same breath please.
I don't agree with the SNP stance, but it's not the politics of unbridled hatred.
igm - MemberDon't mention SNP and the Kippers in the same breath please.
I don't agree with the SNP stance, but it's not the politics of unbridled hatred.
I like SNP ... Frrrreeedooommmm! 😛
it's still got idiot nationalism in common
ya, I know I cannot sustain my argument but when I went to Sunderland the place just feel grim ... not good man, not good ...
Taking a whole generation and putting them on the dole can do that to a place.
