Not so sure. Cameron due to his negative campaigning has backed himself into a corner - his anti-SNP rhetoric will feed into the anti-English Scots and the anti-Scots English and he has promised an in/out EU referendum to appease his extreme right-wing.The UK could look an awful lot different in five years' time.
Could devo max potentially solve both problems, Scotland governed largely by the Scots with EVEL being the flipside?
Galloway gone!In fact properly trounced? Fantastic!
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George Galloway gone!In fact properly trounced? Fantastic!
"Coming to a mayoral candidature near you soon...."
.ohnohesback - Member
There are many desperate people out there who have nothing to look forward to except their lives being made deliberately even worse by the new government. One day their forbearance is going to snap.
and so far in the counted/reported only 65% of them could be bothered to get up and cast a vote, in one of the early ones there was just over 50% turnout, those that didn't bother actually were the same number as those who voted for the winner, that electorate could have been turned on it's head.
So many things that I'm enjoying about the results and one massive one that is turning the rest sour. Great to see Labour punished in Scotland and likewise the LibDems everywhere. Galloway losing his seat another plus. Another 5 years of the Tories though *boke*
Might just have to apply for residency out here in Canada. Not sure the UK is going to be somewhere I want to come back to 🙁
and in the other news Galloways private jet has been fueled and is ready to go
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Unfortunately for me, the Ladbrokes def of a majority is 326, they dont count the Sinn Fein effect.
Great result - far better than I could have hoped 🙂
ohnohesback - Member
Whining? No, this time you might actually get some rioting...
Much simpler to respect the democratic process.
Well done Dave and Nicola, bad luck the rest.
So Scotland has voted against independence but now has more devolved power and a strong say in Westminster. Now let's hope the result of that is also respected and the debate can cease and people get on with implementing their policies and taking responsibility for their actions, the hiding places have gone now. As SNP said this last vote was not about independence, it was about their right of centre policies, many more RW than the Tories. 😉
What has happened to LW voters and their champions?!?
they are forecasting 325 Stoner so it could go either way, 50/50 to see which way it goes.
and interestingly for all those PR fans the LIb Dems currently have more votes than the SNP but only 10% of their seats
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And ukip 3.5 million ,SNP 1.5 million.
Yep, although you would have to assume that there would be some regional limits on the PR as it common in other places, it's not a magic bullet and just a different way of cutting the cake up. Also given the amount of tactical voting to remove and bolster certain candidates raw vote numbers from a FPTP shouldn't be translated to PR numbers - my point was a little tongue in cheek to the nationalists shouting about how important they now are.
he has promised an in/out EU referendum to appease his extreme right-wing.
Indeed and with a slim majority Cameron will have to tread lightly to keep his anti EU backbenchers happy
Not sure how the SNP will wangle another referendum, but using them as a stick to beat labour with has no doubt alienated the Scots further
Will the next 5 years be the Referenda Parliament? By the next election we could be a much smaller country much farther from Europe
Just need The odious Ed Balls out and my night will be complete!
Silver linings - the evil Esther McVey has gone. 😀
Brutal business politics - some shattered carreers tonight.
Cameron also has a much tougher job now, especially with cuts coming.
Just need The odious Ed Balls out and my night will be complete!
potential renaming of the "Portillo Moment"? 😀
EDIT: mike: https://twitter.com/FXMC1957/status/596543501267038208
327? possibly?
If somebody goes with a Balls Out gag I reckon some of these on no sleep might just descend into giggles, another Mr Hunt moment
I think Berwick will fall to the tories, it was mostly the popularity of Alan Beith for the Lib Dems locally that helped up there and he is retiring.
Woken up to the election news, fair taken the shine off the day.
I don't think this country is going to be a very nice place live for some time to come.
The Balls Out Moment could work
A bad night for all the Socialist Track World big hitters 🙂 I can't keep the smile off my face.
Very surprised here, a few minutes ago my local lib dem longstanding Norman Baker has been ousted by a woman that insists on plastering her face everywhere on 6 foot billboards.
I think the loss of Danny Alexander is the only one I regret. Cable is a silly old man and I wont mourn his eviscerating, but Danny was far more pragmatic in his economics and I think he did a good job at the treasury and should take a lot of credit for the economic stability we have now.
+1 if you didn't vote, don't even consider complaining for the next 5 years
"Today they are wringing the bells; tomorrow they will be wringing their hands!" - Robert Walpole.
A bad night for all the Socialist Track World big hitters I can't keep the smile off my face.
Looking forward to the attacks on welfare, the nhs, the poor, the jobless, foreigners, low tax payers and the EU? I'm glad someone is, because I'm definitely not.
I can't keep the smile off my face.
Oh great, gloating right wingers
^^^^ whatnobeer you forgot the break up of the union too
Oh and we are stuck with Katie Hopkins now, does it get any worse than this?
Looking forward to the attacks on welfare, the nhs, the poor, the jobless, foreigners, low tax payers and the EU? I'm glad someone is, because I'm definitely not.
+1 I am genuinely worried.
+1 whatnobeer - good luck to anyone not 100% fit and able or financially stable - it's going to be a very grim 5 years for many.
Yep - this country is not going to be a very nice place to live within 5 years.
Gloating right wingers! FFS can you imagine this place if the reverse had occurred?
Just a relief that common sense has prevailed.
Shocked and saddened that the people are so easily persuaded to vote against their best interests. My heart goes out to the disabled and the public sector workers this morning, whose lives are to be cut to ribbons. Poor sods.
As for Europe - Christ, what a horrible prospect.
Looking forward to the attacks on welfare, the nhs, the poor, the jobless, foreigners, low tax payers and the EU? I'm glad someone is, because I'm definitely not.
Exactly what we heard from the lefties five years ago, by now the entirety of the UK was supposed to look like a scene from threads - in case you had forgotten, the NHS was supposed to have already been sold off by now!
Has it still not occurred to anyone that if relying on this rhetoric didn't work last time, it was even less likely to work this time?
Your relief may be short-lived when the contrived pre election boomlet stutters to a halt. Then you too might find yourself one of the new jewry.
And did I mention the ghost at the feast? Greece's continuing problems are by no means 'solved', May the 11th being the next crunch point. It may yet be the domino which wipes the smug grim of Cameron's face.
quite. drama queens.
Im a fan of PR, but I draw your attention to UKIP 😯
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FPTP has one redeeming feature left.
Another 5 years of Cameron et al and this country is ****ed!
Hard to believe some people actually want that!
Exactly what we heard from the lefties five years ago, by now the entirety of the UK was supposed to look like a scene from threads
Meaningless non-post. The kind of empty rhetoric that gets self serving scum back in. Quality.
some people
c.9million of the 25m+ who bothered to vote.
A few more than "some"
Clearly your view wasn't the majority view.
Very bitter comments from the labour supporters.
molgrips - Member
Shocked and saddened that the people are so easily persuaded to vote against their best interests.
Even more so when it appears that they think they are voting in their (individual) best interests.
Should be a time for reflection rather than gloating or bitterness. Can't say I'm looking forward to the next few years though.
Beeb forecast now 329 cons!
Another 5 years of Cameron et al and this country is ****ed!
Wasn't It was supposed to be ****ed after the [b]first[/b] five years?
Just heard Balls has asked for a recount as he's 300 behind.
Pleeeeese!!!!!
