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Apart from the fact that I now have hold of the business end of a pissed off dog with my fingers up its nose!
Very brave of you to do that.
The owner should have muzzled the dog and is totally responsible for the situation.
She’s far from a Buffoon lol, but she did tell me to never do that again unless it’s our child or dog.
If it was your child you need only a hammer to the dog's brain.
If it was your child you need only a hammer to the dog’s brain.
Ha! Good luck with that. Hitting a moving target with a hammer. I have a hard enough time not hitting my finger holding a stationary nail. I'd probably injure the kid. 🙁
Need a dog fight break stick to get dogs to separate.
Terrible situation to be in. I have only once been in the situation where a dog came running up to mine in the and 'went for her' I grabbed my dog and lifted her up high out of reach. Fortunately owner arrived and words were exchanged before any damage was done.
@squirrelking as a serial re-homer I know whereof I speak. Biting and fighting dogs are not re-homed by reputable rescue schemes. I took on a biter and fighter once, never again, too much stress to start with and he never really settled in 7 years.
She’s far from a Buffoon lol, but she did tell me to never do that again unless it’s our child or dog.
I'd hope from the smiley, you realise I wasn't being entirely serious. (-:
I had something similar several years ago. Bleary-eyed one morning I was alerted by my then-partner screaming. Two big dogs out back were playing tug-o-war with a cat. I reacted rather than thought, stuffed what I could of my feet into her three-sizes-too-small-for-me trainers and ran out in my dressing gown screaming and flailing. The dogs took one look at the inbound demented Arthur Dent and both bolted, I hoovered up the cat, took him to the vet and then myself to A&E to treat a cat bite in my hand. It was only when I got back home that it really dawned on me, that could very easily have gone very very badly wrong.
2 tips I’ve been told (fortunately not had to try using yet) are
1) lift and hold the biting dogs rear legs off the ground
2) sharply blow up the nostrils
Obviously needs more than 1 committed individual to do these but I’d happily do either if it was my dog being attacked.
2) sharply blow up the nostrils
Someone suggested that last night - but no way was anyone trying that with a dog that could fit your face in its mouth!!
The women whose dog was injured came round to see my wife today to thank me for my bravery/stupidity. Her dog is ok, only a small puncture wound and twisted leg - the vet sedated it slightly to stop it stressing.
Police aren't pressing Amy charges as no crime had been committed and the dogs are well cared for......
Police aren’t pressing Amy charges as no crime had been committed and the dogs are well cared for……
😮 WTF?! They have to bite a person before being dangerous? And again WTF?!
I'd be onto the local police and crime commissioner to get that decision reviewed. I wouldn't want that risk roaming round my street.
+1
Should be outright illegal these types of dogs they are not pets
What are "those types"?
The most dangerous breeds are banned such as Pit Bull Terriers but there is too much nuance as similar breeds are still allowed.
I know. They shouldn’t be.
So because they look similar that's it?
By all accounts on here it sounds like border collies account for most aggression out and about (chasing and biting cyclists) and I know of a few hound owners that have had dogs attacked by them. Should we ban them too? They are after all working dogs and practically speaking have no place in a home.
I know this is STW and facts have no place here but:
According to the Kennel Club, the number one breed in the UK is the Labrador. This friendly, lovable breed has long been a family favourite.
However, with evidence suggesting most dog bites are from the family pet that’s had no previous history of biting, it follows that Britain’s most popular breed is also responsible for the highest number of canine attack personal injury claims, because there are more of them. Other breeds that were highlighted in the report included German Shepherds, Staffordshire Bull Terriers and Border Collies.
https://www.doglistener.tv/2016/08/breed-most-likely-to-bite/
Of course that all depends on a snapshot of a period of time. Here's another one:
Jack Russell terriers have topped the list of dogs most likely to attack humans.
Merseyside Police found more reports of canine attacks on humans involving Jack Russells than any other breed in 2015.
The terriers were found to be more aggressive than other breeds of dogs that are perceived to be aggressive, like pit bulls or bull terriers.
So yes, staffies get a bad rap, mostly the ones like the OP encountered that have been kept to breed and never socialised but don't let prejudice get in the way of facts.
(I can but try)
Police aren’t pressing Amy charges as no crime had been committed and the dogs are well cared for……
And that, for me sums up the country we live in.
FFS
2) sharply blow up the nostrils
F*** that, how close do you want to put your face to a pissed-off/stressed-out angry dog?
Police aren’t pressing Amy charges as no crime had been committed and the dogs are well cared for……
😮 WTF?! They have to bite a person before being dangerous? And again WTF?!
I’d be onto the local police and crime commissioner to get that decision reviewed. I wouldn’t want that risk roaming round my street.
Of the top of my head, I can think of several breaches of the Dangerous Dogs Act from the OPs description. So I'd be taking it further.
Hmmm blow up its nostrils, or boot it in the knackers, tough choice.
Does any of this breed analysis consider that certain types of dogs are kept in certain types of conditions by certain types of people? Substitute whatever you want for the ‘certain’ placeholders up there but don’t doubt it’s nature and nurture.
You can prove anything with stats… popular breeds are responsible for more bites because there are many times more of them? So what? If you’ve faced the comparative biting power of a gun dog like a lab to that of one selectively bred to have the grip of the dog described by the OP you’ll understand the point I was making. We don’t need dogs selectively bred for their vice like grip and instinct to use it, so let’s not breed them any more.
Opportunity to ram watering can spout up dog's bum was missed.
Could that end up turning the dog into a mobius strip as it tries to dig the sausage out of itself?
Had to laugh at that! Horrible situation to be in, though, and kudos for stepping in like that and helping save the poor little dog from a likely far more serious injury, if not death. One alternative to the watering can, if any happened to be handy in their kitchen is a pot of pepper, that emptied into the hell-hound’s face would have distracted it - it certainly does me if I’m a bit over-enthusiastic with the pepper on my dinner; much sneezing ensues!
Hot chilli powder would probably be even more effective, as we’re not allowed to carry bear spray over here…
Does any of this breed analysis consider that certain types of dogs are kept in certain types of conditions by certain types of people?
Of course it does. I remember when I was growing up it was Rottweilers, Dobermans and German Shepherds that were the hard mans dog of choice at various points. The problem isn't the dogs themselves, the problem are the people that fancy themselves as breeders and keep them in appalling conditions.
You can prove anything with stats… popular breeds are responsible for more bites because there are many times more of them? So what?
Are you suggesting staffies aren't a popular breed? And yes, the stats prove that more dogs than just staffies bite and in fact more often. Wonder how many of those nasty little Jackahuahua things are going to end up on the end of someones arm? Again, poor breeding with no thought behind it other than £££. Same nonsense but middle class so okay.
If I had to stick my fingers up a dogs nose (or bum) to get it under control id be asking the police why it was not an offence under section 3 of the dangerous dogs act 1991.
However, as I said earlier in terms of future prevention you will get much more effect / action with the LA Dog Warden.
2) sharply blow up the nostrils
I am not exactly a dog expert but I seem to recall the nostrils are located pretty close to the mouthful of razor sharp fangs.
I think short of not getting involved my dads approach several years back was the best option. He used a wrecking bar to open the mouth since a)minimal risk to his hand getting it to release and B)he at least stood a chance of having a open and frank conversation with the ravenous mutt if it did get upset.
I think the OP had stated that the owner had already tried to pull it off without any success.
Comment of the week for me, well played!
To the op, good work on wading in, I'm glad you still have all your fingers after that!
The American Bulldog owner - if he was a responsible owner and he’s clearly not - should have it muzzled in public.
Separating dogs is a dangerous thing. MrsG had a nasty bite separating our two terriers (our Patterdale used to be pretty food possessive) over a food treat. The best advice I’ve had for separating dogs is if they have a collar then just choke them. Horrible situations.
A few years ago I saw a meathead with a pitbull just round the corner from my house, dog wasn’t on a lead, a westie was being walked by its elderly owner on opposite side of the road, pitbull charged at westie, barking like mad, fortunately a car was driving down the road and hit the pitbull sending it 20 yards down the road coming to a stop right in front of me, yelping like mad but not moving.
Meathead was naturally upset and ran to dog (shouting rocky, rocky -or was it tyson?)
Westie owner said, ‘why didn’t you have it on a lead? Meathead went for old guy and had to be held back!!!
Seems these dogs are consistently owned by people who have similar intellect than the dogs!
Tempting to get a tazer
Tempting to get a tazer
Large kitchen knife. Everyone's got one of those.
If I had to stick my fingers up a dogs nose (or bum) to get it under control id be asking
Given the choice between sticking my finger up an aggressive low-slung-sporty-model dog's arse or reaching for a three D-cell Maglite, I suspect I'd be wondering why it'd suddenly got inexplicably dark.
I love animals. I love dogs. I'm no fighter, I'm a well-documented professional run-away-er. I'm like nine stone wet through. But in a pinch where some fighty dog was getting fighty at me or at people I cared about, I'd totally brain the ****er and worry about it later.
Ahem friend who is ex Parachute Regiment and in a special bit of the local constabulary these days suggested the following apprpach...
Take a stick or any robust stick like thing and place under back of dog collar and rotate until dog blacks out... he did say it can kill the dog as it crushed the windpipe.
Make sure you always carry a dog stick.
Tourniquet
Sounds like a good plan. Though I imagine the stick need to be slender and extremely strong.