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.... and didn't seem impressed with the rubbish Sir bacon face has been coming out with.....
City will still be kaka.
we wont win the league this year, but neither will united....
you won't win the league in the next 5 years with Hughes in charge
and you know because?
city fans are better than united fans whoever wins the league - FACT
because of his woeful performance last season despite having a half useful team. if city really want a successful side, they need to recruit a manager that might inspire the really top players to come. at best, city will be scrapping for 5th place with villa and everton.
Surely the thread title should have said 'football transfer spoiler' 😉
most successful manager britian has ever seen, and as for mark hughes!!!
On paper, Owen had a better record than Tevez last year. Maybe because Tevez didn't play too much? Good job there's not many strikers to choose from at City. Oh wait...
city fans are better than united fans whoever wins the league - FACT
what is that statement based on then??
on everyone having a really low opinion of utd fans ?
mmmmm, Gareth Barry, and Carlos tevez, arguably two of the best players in there positions in the premiership 9and we have not finished),united brought in Obertan (?)valencia, and Owen, definatly not........ and no one else is coming. bacon face has lost the plot, selling two out of his best three players of last year, last time united sold a superstar, they didnt win anything for 3 years....
and owen having a better record than tevez last year, owen scored nothing in his last 12 games.......
most successful manager britian has ever seen
when taggart wins the world cup he'll get that acolade. until then you'll need to be satisfied with the most successful manager in everything other than europe. 😉
who wouldnt sell fncy pants for £80 million and as for teves he wasnt ours to sell, Gareth barry wanted champions league football but decided to go to shitty for the money along with all your other signings, nobody has joined them because they are a big club, rich in tradition, and very successful unlike the massive shadow you have been under for many years, its for the money bitter blue trev.
Just proves that in football it's only about money. Why go to a team of losers from a team of winners. Supose the sad gits of Manchester need some crow about.
and what statement is that based on....
its a well known fact that the majority of united fans are glory hunters, there was a poll a few years back, 65% of united fans dont even have a north west postcode... the same poll had, think it was 80% of city fans HAVING a MANCHESTER post code.
United are the biggest club in the world, but it seems that even that isnt enough to attract players, maybe it might have something to do with the fact this could be bacon face's last year, and the club is massively in debt, id rather be a city fan than a utd fan anyday
and bitter, i doubt it, according to my united mates who have season tickets, generally the ones who spout crap like "we hate city and liverpool" never go, probably have never been to OT and walk around in united shirts with names and numbers on when there isnt even a game on,and more than likely dont even live in near manchester, and supported them post- 1991........
bitterness is drifting from the blues to the reds, always complaining about us buying players, when you had £80 million and no one to spend it on....
does that sound like im bitter, nothing to be bitter about, viva la revolucion
best thing about all this money coming to man city is suddenly there is someone who can boss Chelsea about, making cheeky offers for [url= http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/07/14/john-terry-stalling-over-manchester-city-switch-115875-21518414/ ]Mr Chelsea[/url]
all about money, yep your right, united have never bought the league...
Ronaldo £12 million, Rooney £30 million, Veron £28 million, Ferdinand £31 million, Nani and Anderson £30 million,Carrick £18 million, Hargreaves £18 million,Van Nistlerooy £18 million, heinze £6 million, Smith £6 million, Vidic £10 million, need i go on......
yet they cant attract anyone these days.....
See what I mean City fans are a bunch of wingers. Givem a nice new ground to play on and they moan, give loads of dosh and they moan. They moan about everyone but themselves, bet you'll be telling us about the good old days of Franny Lee and Colin Bell next.
who is moaning? merely stating facts..... im far from moaning, im in a pretty good mood at the moment...
I saw the bit about United being the bigest club in the world but no other facts.
Bitter Trev are you implying you are going to win the league, if so you are as deluded as every other shitty fan, no bitterness at the theatre of dreams,shitty have spent their fare share on players with nothing to show for it, and i think hold the record on the changes in management.
Man City last season was a very good laugh. This season should be even better.
we wont win the league this year, we dont have a good enough team yet, and neither do utd. and trust me, there is a massive amount of bitterness at OT..... in debt, no money, not an attraction to players anymore, the complete opposite of City at the moment......
if you think im happy now, imagine how ecstatic im going to be by Friday.....
in fairness, i don't think city will have top live in utd's shadow any longer, i think most people will hate them both equally.
look on the bright side guys, you could be scousers.
fair point TM, though i still dont think we will ever be as unpopular as utd........ no matter how much money we spend.
success breeds hate, nobody hated us in the seventies and eighties, with liverpools success it was there turn, nobody ever hates a little club like city with no success.ps nobody thinks your happy its delusion.
Anyway all the very best for the season ahead.
haha 30 million for nani and anderson.
what a waste
Manchester Trev - Memberwho is moaning? merely stating facts..... im far from moaning, im in a pretty good mood at the moment...
i will be too if you give us over £20m for adebayor. 🙂
you to TeamYeti. we will speak again on the 20th September. good luck.
£25 for Adebayor is pretty good for a proven striker, thought you would want a lot more, even keep him, at least til eduardo is fully fit, other wise you only have Bender and van persie
Hehe, I'm gonna join in...
I saw the bit about United being the bigest club in the world but no other facts.
I think you might find you're second or third behind Real and Barcelona...unless there is some strange criteria by which you are judging your size. Barcelona don't even need a sponsor. Actually, we'll leave this one, but it's a moot point you'll agree.
success breeds hate, nobody hated us in the seventies and eighties, with liverpools success it was there turn,
Why don't you have a chat with people who were around in the seventies and eighties. Leeds Utd was the team everyone hated in the seventies/early eighties with Giles and co merrily kicking seven colours of shit out of anyone unfortunate enough to have to play them. Yes, many disliked Liverpool for their success but they never engendered the hatred that ManU brought upon themselves in the nineties. I don't know why, but that's how it was. ManU fans love to bring this one up, but when I ask people who were around, that's what they say. Spontaneous chants of YNWA all over the country the day the Kop was pulled down etc etc. I guess ManU fans have always hated scousers and like to think that everybody else did too.
no matter how much money we spend.
Until your fans start waving ten pound notes at opposition supporters in the away end a la Chelsea. Or do you think that Citeh supporters are just too decent to do that sort of thing.
no bitterness at the theatre of dreams,shitty have spent their fare share on players with nothing to show for it
Short memory of Utd's early splurging with little to show either? It took Chelsea a few years to win a title too didn't it? Arguably, once they got Essien back they were the best side in the premiership, certainly better than Liverpool but they couldn't make up the points they'd dropped earlier.
[i]haha 30 million for nani and anderson.
what a waste[/i]
Compared to the 28m they paid for Veron it's bargaintastic!
some very good points there DD, and i dont think city fans will be waving £10 notes around, thats nearly 3 pints at eastlands......
thats nearly 3 pints at eastlands......
Or a pint and half a shandy for the missus anywhere near Chelsea's ground.
For the record though, I'm happy for another team thrown into the mix...lets have a top 5 or a top 6. Anything to make it more interesting.
Yes, many disliked Liverpool for their success but they never engendered the hatred that ManU brought upon themselves in the nineties. I don't know why, but that's how it was.
Sorry, but I think that you're wrong there. I remember there being widespread if begrudging respect for Paisley's Liverpool but Dalglish's team were universally despised for their whinging, for bullying the ref and for generally expecting everyone else to let them win. Quite loathesome. The only difference between the hatred for Fergusons Utd and Dalglish's Liverpool is the amount of time that it has gone on for.
Sorry, but I think that you're wrong there.
No need to apologise. We're discussing football and therefore the rest of the forum would be disappointed if we used common decency when addressing a post with which we disagree.
I remember there being widespread if begrudging respect for Paisley's Liverpool but Dalglish's team were universally despised for their whinging, for bullying the ref and for generally expecting everyone else to let them win.
Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I still suspect that it was a Manchester-centric hatred. As far as bullying the ref, again, I can't remember much ref bullying going on. Arguably the first real pressure was put on refs when Furguson instructed Keane and Scholes to constantly badger the ref on the pitch while he did it from the sidelines. Of course, Sky's 37 camera angles on every incident didn't help either. And they didn't expect everyone to let them win - they just went and won everything regardless.
The only difference between the hatred for Fergusons Utd and Dalglish's Liverpool is the amount of time that it has gone on for.
Have you been listening to the ManU fan who comes on FiveLive and finishes every sentence with a thinly concealed insult to scousers?
EDIT: tm, we'll just leave it to opinion...I'm not looking to start a "youse were more hated than us" argument. The OP was about Citeh and someone will accuse me of being RudeBoy in disguise if I drag it around to a ManU vs Liverpool thread...again.
I still suspect that it was a Manchester-centric hatred
Well, I'm a Villa supporting Brummie, so you're wrong there.
Arguably the first real pressure was put on refs when Furguson instructed Keane and Scholes to constantly badger the ref on the pitch while he did it from the sidelines
So the image of McMahon, Nichol, Dalglish and Aldridge surrounding and screaming at the ref must be a figment of my imagination then. I don't think that you really think that haranguing the ref was invented by Man Utd.
edit, dd you're right, it is drifting off topic a little.
Back on topic:
[b]You can't just buy lots of high quality players and expect to have a high quality team. This isn't Champ Manager.[/b]
I don't think that you really think that haranguing the ref was invented by Man Utd.
Goodness knows when it was...probably coincided with money playing more and more of a role in the game but it was refined by United.
Well, I'm a Villa supporting Brummie, so you're wrong there.
Yeah, but your lot just hate everyone 😛
I will leave the last OT word to you...I started it.
Whatever...
I'm drunk. Tevez signes for City, who gives a ****? 4 oals in Premiership a year? No Champions League? welome to reality!
BTW I wish he was still a red... Back to the bottle..
slightly OT but just seen the bbc page about city's renewed interest in john terry. i think it would be a bad thing for the national side if too many of the england starters signed for city and played no european football in the season leading up to the world cup finals.
just a thought.
Manchester City are going to be the new Leeds United.
in what way ? universally despised or skint and playing in the third tier ? 😉
I remember there being widespread if begrudging respect for Paisley's Liverpool but Dalglish's team were universally despised for their whinging, for bullying the ref and for generally expecting everyone else to let them win.
Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I still suspect that it was a Manchester-centric hatred. As far as bullying the ref, again, I can't remember much ref bullying going on. Arguably the first real pressure was put on refs when Furguson instructed Keane and Scholes to constantly badger the ref on the pitch while he did it from the sidelines. Of course, Sky's 37 camera angles on every incident didn't help either. And they didn't expect everyone to let them win - they just went and won everything regardless.
As a non Liverpool/Man United supporter I back the point that Dalglish's Liverpool were universally disliked for the exact reasons mentioned above.
Nowadays, the Liverpool image is quite far away from the cheeky loveable scouse image that their fans like to believe people have of them. The view actually is of a manager who has lost the plot and is totally up his own arse, a hypocritical captain preaching about diving while rolling around on the floor, a chief exec who is happy to tap up and unsettle smaller teams' players, fans who rob their own at European finals while continually harping on about being victims. Need I go on?
As for Citeh, I've always liked them and seen some similarities between their fans and ours. I've also always liked Mark Hughes as a manager (and player). That was until he started taking a leaf out of the Harry Redknapp school of management and openly talking about how he would love it if another teams' player joined him but of course he couldn't talk about it as he is contracted to someone else - i.e. using the media to tap players up. I really hope they do sign Terry as the team and the player would probably be made for each other.
Skint and playing in the third tier - thta was precisely my point. The investors wil bail out, it will turn out all the loans were on crazy schemes, the players will sod off when they realise they need to be at a club with more exposure and the club will be paying percentages of their wages for years after they last see them.
Strangely, Leeds started to get a few neutral fans when they were on their 'adventure' in the Big Cup. Those goons Bowyer and Woodgate put
paid to that, then O'Dreary put the final nails in the coffin by constantly regurgitating the 'bunch of kids' line.
i think it would be a bad thing for the national side if too many of the england starters signed for city and played no european football in the season leading up to the world cup finals.
On the other hand could that not benefit the national team if they've played 20 less games in a season?
that's a fair point. i suspect that it won't quite work that way though as if they're not involved in european games, they're likely to be included in the littlewoods and fa cup squads and end up playing almost as many games.
"£25 for Adebayor is pretty good for a proven striker, thought you would want a lot more, even keep him, at least til eduardo is fully fit, other wise you only have Bender and van persie"
£25m is a hell of a lot for a moody player! Thats £1.5m per goal! Seriuosly its a good thing you have loads of money because the way its being spent your going to need a big balance to pay the rent! I would think most AFC fans would take the money gladly..
"fair point TM, though i still dont think we will ever be as unpopular as utd........ no matter how much money we spend."
Oh yes you will, most fans thought Chelsea were a nice club until they started throwing RA's cash about & winning stuff - although you do have to win something first..
And as for buying John Terry for £40m? Thats madness too - a 29 yr old with a bad back..A good captain he maybe & a brave defender too but his best days are behind him. Chelsea should take the money & spend it on Ribery. 
And as for buying John Terry for £40m? Thats madness too - a 29 yr old with a bad back..A good captain he maybe & a brave defender too but his best days are behind him
not sure about all of that. if city have lots of cash then i'd say it's a good buy for them and good business for chelsea. in footballing terms, rubbish for terry and england.
good buy for City (Barry and Tevez) certainly improving but along way to go.
Are they going to get Keegan in as manger given the number of strikers?
5th is my prediction for this season possibly pip Arsenal but I doubt it.
Their money should buy success eventually but no top top drawer best in Europe in their position jutst yet.
I think every team will be a litlle poorer this season as they all have probs (manu ronnie gone, Liverpool well inconsistency and Alonso, Chelsea aging and new manager and Arsenal lost Adebayor) so may be alittle more unpredictable which is no bad thing.
A good captain he maybe & a brave defender
Always make me laugh when people feel the need to use the word "brave" when talking about John Terry. With better positional play he may not need to throw himself into those last ditch tackles that he's famous for.
And no footballer should ever be described as "brave" for their endevours on the football pitch.
I cant see it being good business for anyone but CFC. He probably wont play much more than 1/2 a season this year with the injuries hes picked up. So £40m for a 29 yr old defender is way overpriced & only going to cause the transfer market to heat up even more - but if City want to pay it & JT puts in his transfer request..
"And no footballer should ever be described as "brave" for their endevours on the football pitch."
Elaborate please.
Can somebody pay me mere £100k per week so I could be brave?
Need I go on?
Yes, please do, that much has given me a good laugh so far...
I'm gutted he's playing for city but in a perverse way I like them buying these players I've always preferred the manchester derby to the utd/pool or even the media generated united/aresenl/chels. And now we can have proper good attacking games and it will make winning even more satisfying.
For me its a bit like heinze I liked him his effort and the bite in his play but just as heize average defending, tevez needs to score more goals. Surprised he didn't go inter.
Whilst it would be silly to doubt SAF united still need to find 25 goals to replace ronaldos efforts.
"And no footballer should ever be described as "brave" for their endevours on the football pitch."Elaborate please.
Brave is fighting in a war, beating a disease, laying down your life or wellbeing for others. Not being paid vast sums of money for playing a game that you love.
There are plenty of footballers that I have vast admiration for. Not one of them would I describe as "brave" for anything they have done on the pitch.
Need I go on?Yes, please do, that much has given me a good laugh so far...
Not much you can argue with in my post then. Fair enough.
Fair point Scott though you do sound a little bitter/jealous.. 😉
I think some players are brave within the scope of what they do - compare them to LCPL Johnson-Beharry then no they arent very brave!
Of course I'm jealous some people get paid loads of money for booting a ball around - I'd ****ing love that!!!
But that hasn't impaired my judgement of what constitutes "brave" - I think its a term thrown around far too easily nowadays - especially where JT is concerned.
As I said within the scope of what they do then some players are brave & using that those parameters then JT could be classified as brave..Whereas someone like Veron probably wouldnt be.
No your judgement of brave isnt impaired but perhaps your field of view is a little narrow.
There are other areas of sport where I would call the participants brave as well..F1 or boxing or rugby or DH biking. To single out footballers from this catergory just because they are vastly over-paid & playing a game they love strikes me as being deliberately exclusive, perhaps based on reasons that 1. You dont like JT 2. You dont like CFC 3. You dont like overpaid, pampered prima donas & the attention the receive. All fair points if thats the case. But none the less, within the remit of the game it is possible to call some players brave.
ps I think it was very brave of Petr Cech to play football again after having his skull fractured in several places..There are other players who have suffered severe injuries before & come back to play but I cant remember any right now - Id probably call some of them brave too!
Go on then. Give me an example of John Terry being "brave".
And yes, I'd agree with you on the Petr Cech thing.
Nope not gonna bother. Its now apparent that you just dont like JT, so whatever I say you will decry. If yer a Hammers fan, Im guessing by the moniker that maybe you are (which would also go some way to explain why you dont like JT) look after that wee italian for us will you. Im sure someday he will be back at the Bridge 😉
Why would being a West Ham fan mean that I dislike JT???