MrsGrahamS chided me the other day for saying "Damn" in front of young children.
I maintain that "Damn" isn't a sweary word. In fact I specifically used it in place of a more vulgar expression. (See also "Hell", "Heck", "Shhhh...ugar", "Fuuuu..rgoodnessake.")
What say the STW massif?
Would you cover your little cherubs ears when I was speaking?
If a bishop can say "Damn" in a public church then how can it possibly offend?
Damn only just scrapes in as a naughty word.
Damn - no, you're fine. Just don't let it slip to more than that or I may have to cull your children before they continue the spread of pointless swearing in every other word.
"Puck" works for me. although I still maintain that "Shitting tits" was nothing to do with me, and was in fact entirely my son's handiwork...
"Puck" works for me.
Why even bother trying? That's like sticking a * in to remove a letter from an obscenity on here!
teaching other peoples children swear words is awesome.
The little girl who lived next door to me thought ducks were called f*cks and cats were called tw*ts.
Made me laugh every time!
Perhaps you should explain that you are spelling it dam?
dmiller - while funny as hell to the adults nearby, it could actually cause kids a lot of confusion, not really fair! That's like picking on a disabled kid.
'damn' is borderline.
Really? 😳 😳
So like the entire concept of damnation and hell? Or just the word "damn"?
Is "Hell" okay? 😕
What are acceptable words for exclamation, surprise and frustration to use in front of kids then?
Not sure I can say "Cripes", "Crivens", "By jove" etc without feeling like I've escaped from the 1972 Dandy annual.
while funny as hell to the adults nearby, it could actually cause kids a lot of confusion, not really fair! That's like picking on a disabled kid.
Where I come from we have a strict code of honour. You do not pick on the disabled children. I'm disgusted you even suggested this on a public forum. Infact I hope the mods see this as disabled children should be treated with love and respect.
We pick on the gingers round here.
When my son was about 3 he was playing with toy cars and he said "These cars are fu^*ing great aren't they?"
A bizarre moment, as we hadn't said anything like it in front of him. He's 7 now and [s]swears like a fishwife[/s] never says anything like it.
A bizarre moment, as we hadn't said anything like it in front of him.
You have a friend / relative like me.
Either teach them to swear or give them Dr Pepper and smarties 30 mins before sending them home 😉
They slip out from time to time, I do it a bit much but the kids seem to know not to use them. That cartoon above is very accurate example.
Not sure I can say "Cripes", "Crivens", "By jove" etc without feeling like I've escaped from the 1972 Dandy annual.
"Cripes" is a deliberate alliteration of "Christ" (as is "crikey"). Just like "Jeepers" is an alliteration of "Jesus".
OK, this is blasphemy (rather than swearing; a subtle distinciton, I know), but it's therefore no worse than other no sweary swear words like damn, or hell or blast or goddamnmotherf***ingsonofac**tingb***h.
dmiller if you had my kids spouting f*ck for your amusement i would probably resort to giving you a good kicking.just for fun though.
You have a friend / relative like me.
Or leave them in front of the TV/films 🙂
[i] 'damn' is borderline.
Really?
So like the entire concept of damnation and hell? Or just the word "damn"?
Is "Hell" okay? [/i]
Damn, damnation and hell all fine* as all based around something fictional. *Unless the child in question is a rabid godbotherer and will burst into tears at the very mention of anything 'evil'.
Alternatively, note rest of post to identify slightly less than serious content.
whilst driving down a country road not so long ago a flock(?) of pheasants flew just over the top of a hedge in front of me narrowly missing the car windscreen, upon seeing this spectacle i announced that they were lucky pluckers. it wasn't till we got home that my 2.5 year old daughter told my wife that she'd seen some lucky f*ckers!!!!! 😳
boy, was i in trouble.
They'll pick up more foul language at school than us parents could ever teach em! Little Doog stopped swearing cos i didn't react when he did, they only really do it when they think its wrong. Thats my humble theory anyway.
Realised yesterday I've let slip with 'shit' a couple of times recently in front of my 4yo, so expecting that back any day now.
We used to let him watch Spaced on DVD when he was a bit younger (seems mad now), but that stopped the day he called my mum a ****ing plum.
When he was just starting to talk, we were out on the bike one day with him in the front-mounted seat when a motorist passed way too close and I shouted 'ya fanny' - for the rest of the day he went round calling everything a 'hanny' (fortunately couldn't pronounce an f at that point).
bout right doog.
[i]You have a friend / relative like me.[/i]
Actually, I suspect it was an unintentional lesson from his chavvy cousin (wife's side of the family of course)
I swear profusely and treat it as an "exposure therapy" to my children.
Thats my excuse and i'm staying with it.
Well my fingers are crossed he's forgotten "GangBang" by Christmas 😳
(That's [u]not[/u] a book by Santa if anyone was wondering )
I should point out that MrsGrahamS' favourite expression of displeasure is "C*nting Arse Minge", so she's not exactly prudish.
Granted though, she doesn't use that one in front of kids. 🙂
Oh my god.......my wife threatens death if i use the C%^T word, jesus the look of death if i use it. It's like the worst swearword ever.
Oh my god.......my wife threatens death if i use the C%^T word, jesus the look of death if i use it. It's like the worst swearword ever.
no women I've ever known like the use of that word.
Grahams does ^^^
I let my 6 year old play GTA on the xbox, i thought i'd see how it went and if it started affecting him i'd stop it. Well i can report he isn't remotely bothered or affected by the swearing and violence he just loves driving the cars and bikes, he keeps telling me it isn't real. But he does have an alarming tendency to go to the lap dancing clubs in the game and ogle the pixillated strippers!! Is that healthy??
I dont get the whole swearing in front of kids issue, for a start most adults are hypocrites, as they swear in normal life, then pat themselves on the back for being prim in front of children - so you teach kids falseness and dishonesty unless you really never do swear yourself at any time, as most of them know you are hypocrites.
What is also forgotten is no range of adult swearing will ever match that dazzling scope found in the average school playground 🙂
I never heard my dad swear until I started working for him when I was 16. I was honestly shocked when we pulled up at the site in the van and he said to me and the other lad, "Right W4nkers!".
I was in shock.
[i] terrahawk - Member
Oh my god.......my wife threatens death if i use the C%^T word, jesus the look of death if i use it. It's like the worst swearword ever.
no women I've ever known like the use of that word. [/i]
it's my wife's favourite word. Used regularly. She has to remind herself not to use it in front of her pupils.
Damn is OK? Wow. How times change. I remember being caned at school for saying 'heck'. And couldn't you be flogged in public for saying things like 'gadzooks'? That was before my time though.
gadzooks was, and still is, worse than c*nt. How Timothy Claypole got away with it for so long is a mystery.
a mates 2 yr old daughter announced to her mum "daddy was very angry in the car today mummy" mum says "why darling"
"cos he said C**T"
i left fairly soon after that was announced.
Damn is OK? Wow. How times change.
Well I'm not sure that's been established. I think it is. My missus disagrees.
(I thought AndyP agreed with her, but apparently not.)
No one here seems particularly shocked - but then they've all established themselves as foul-mouthed navvies anyway, so that's not a good measure.
I remember being caned at school for saying 'heck'.
See that's just mental. I'm fine with encouraging kids not to swear, but I don't think we should prevent them from expressing themselves appropriately, otherwise they'll be up a tower with a high-powered rifle before they are 30.
I'm 27 my brothers 24 and the youngest brother is 11.
So while me and our kid are listening to Tenacious D in the front we've completely forgot about the wee man in the back seats... on the way to the Grandparents house of course. Despite tribute being the best tune for some reason "**** her gently" was the only one he remembers.
Got him Grand Theft Auto 4 for Christmas.
terrahawk - MemberOh my god.......my wife threatens death if i use the C%^T word, jesus the look of death if i use it. It's like the worst swearword ever.
no women I've ever known like the use of that word.
I've taken re-ownership of the word. Kind of like black people with the 'N' word.
I'm the worst swearer in our house, but I've explained to the children that certain words are not appropriate in certain circumstances and they are very prim and proper in their language themselves. They give me (literally) a slap on the wrist when I say 'bad words'.
They give me (literally) a slap on the wrist when I say 'bad words'.
Excellent - prevent rude words, but openly encourage an atmosphere of violence and physical retribution 😀
I swear like a trooper when not in inappropriate company, but got to say I was shocked by all the 'damns' in the first Harry Potter film! If I'd said damn at the age of 12 I'd have been hung out to dry.
Of course, I now find swearing hilarious, eg: (suffice to say, NSFW)
http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/angry_kid_swearing/
http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/angry_kid_writing/
...openly encourage an atmosphere of violence and physical retribution.
I told them they can give me a good punch in the kisser, but they're not keen. Pussies! 😈
[need I add 😉 ?]
This post reminds me of a scene in "I'm a celebrity........" where Christopher Biggins gets everyone playing charades. He goes on for ages pointing to all the intimate parts of the body, where all the other celebs are shouting out words like ar$e, ****t,tit,w@nk, kok etc etc......
Then he says......."It's none of these, I just wanted to hear you talk dirty"
Really funny at the time.
Walking round the supermarket in the chilled isle, under my breath; "It's ****ing freezing in here"
Son, "Dad, you can't swear in here, it's Waitrose"
I was shocked by all the 'damns' in the first Harry Potter film!
Why? I genuinely just don't get why that word is offensive.
Is it worse to say "Damn you" than "Curse you" for instance? Is it a religion/blasphemy thing? 😕
BTW infrequent use of the word "f*ck" is permitted in a 12A film. 😀
Oh and [url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8116208.stm ]people always complain to the BBFC when Judi Dench swears[/url] 😀
Just realised that this is the video I meant to post:
http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/angry_kid2_tourettes/
😀
[i]I never heard my dad swear until I started working for him when I was 16. I was honestly shocked when we pulled up at the site in the van and he said to me and the other lad, "Right W4nkers!".[/i]
snap! I went to work for my dads business over the summer when I was 16 and I've never heard such swearing! He reserved a lot of it for danny who would *apparently* spend so much time in the dark room that it was clear he was up to other things.
My son swore at primary school once, the f word to another kid. Obviously it was all my fault (I do swear a lot but not in front of him) and nothing to do with the 5 or 6 blue eyed boys in the same class who I'd heard effing near enough constantly in the playground. The school pulled us in for the incident and when I suggested that he might have heard it from Robert or Alex, the headteacher nearly passed out and spat 'robert and alex do not swear!!!!!!!' at me (because robert and alex and their parents go to church whereas we didn't).
I then suggested she might want to listen to them in the playground, which I presume she did because we heard no more about it. And my son never swears now (near us anyway).
I made the mistake of calling my wife a 'spazzer' in front of the kids.....
BIG mistake.
I make lots of mistakes.......
I was given two whacks of the cane at school when I was eleven for calling the music teacher a silly cow.
Kev
I need to tone it down, especially as we have a little one on the way.
But we all (extended family) swear in front of the nieces and nephews and I don't see any reason to stop per se; there are certain words to steer away from and certainly don't turn the air blue when they are around, but they are going to learn these words at some point, so it may as well be from family who can hopefully direct them to when it can be or isn't appropriate to use them.
I shouted "Iyah c***in' b@st@rd" at a six year old at work. I was fitting her skis to her boots and caught the web of skin between my thumb and fore-finger in the ski binding. D@mn that smarts!!
Fortunately her parents were at the other side of the (large) room and my colleagues just fell about laughing, after a swift, stunned silence...
my wife used to.
It all came to an abrupt halt when our then 2 year old son called her a "F*cking W*nker" at volume in the Christmas queue at Tescos.
speaking of which and this may be a myth but a bloke I work with swears blind that a kid in front of him in a supermarket queue, when told he couldn;t have any chocolate said;
"Give me the chocolate or I'll tell Nanny I saw you kissing daddies willy".
Do some people not drink alcohol in front of children, on account that children shouldn't drink ?
BTW, "damn" isn't a [i]swearword[/i]. And I can't see how it could ever be described as an 'offensive' word [i]legally[/i]
[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damn ]According to wikipedia[/url]:
The word "damn" or phrase "God damn" are widely used as a [u]moderate profanity[/u]
But the [url= http://www.pbbfc.co.uk/guides_U.asp?showpopup=n& ]Parents BBFC site[/url] says that:
The ‘U’ symbol stands for ‘Universal’. A ‘U’ film should be suitable for audiences aged four years and over...
At the ‘U’ category, we only allow very mild bad language (eg ‘[u]damn[/u]’ and ‘hell’). Occasionally, bad language such as ‘bloody’ or ‘bugger’ may be included, where justified by the context.
So to hell with it, I should be allowed to use bloody U category language in front of the damn buggers!
Whilst I don't swear in front of kids myself, a friend of mine swears in front of her kids all the time.
She told them that Mummy can do it, but they are not allowed and I've never heard them use bad language once.
Probably more to do with how scary she is when she tells them off than anything else...
My 5 yr old niece came home from school earlier in the year and said to her mum "I know what the 'F' word is". After a bit of wondering whether thats what she really meant she was asked what it is, her reply was "Fox ache". Apparently her friend's dad says it all the time...
FFA
Fox ache
ah.. is that like saying "Wear the Fox Hat" when asking for directions? 😀
Do some people not drink alcohol in front of children, on account that children shouldn't drink ?
Poor analogy. But I dont think it's common for people to get drunk in front of kids, because it doesn't look too smart and can be confusing and upsetting for kids. It's very easy to limit kids access to drink though, and nigh impossible to limit their picking up words and using them without the family having the sense to not use them in front of the children.

